<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Peggy, Chris, Jeff, Michael, Thomas and those others of you interested in this thread,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I agree that getting the potential guest list right is of greatest importance, as is the wording of the invitation. The spirit of intent behind the invitation has great import. In the language I prefer, I say it must be genuine. People always feel when the spirit of intent and the words don't match.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I agree with Jeff in that it is also my experience that there are topics posted on subsequent days that didn't get posted on the first day, that are topics people are passionate about yet for whatever reason didn't get them up onto the agenda wall the first day. I have had more than one occasion in which the people didn't post the topics that really mattered to them at the first OST in their organization...instead they watched and felt into the experience of whether the space that was open for them to post topics was genuinely open without retribution afterwards about what was said. Then saying after the first OST that they realized it was genuine and wished they had posted their topics. I liked it when it was possible for me to say "not to worry, we are having another OST in a month and you will have the opportunity to post your topics then"...and they did.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I am not fond of short OST meetings. I understand the magic of long OST meetings of multiple days, and of multiple OST meetings in the same organization....those meetings where everything that wants to be spoken gets its opportunity, where everything that wants to be listened to gets heard.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">in genuine contact,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Birgitt</div><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><img src="https://www.google.com/s2/u/0/photos/public/AIbEiAIAAABDCPPYmZG55I3fFSILdmNhcmRfcGhvdG8qKDc2MmI2YjI3ZmUxMTlmMjA3YmM0ZjE3YzM3MWNmMjE1YjdhN2ExNGUwAdXO95TkkrhaiNp5B1BTw_BLAzaq" alt="Picture"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><b><br></b></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><b>Birgitt Williams</b></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><b>Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants  </b></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><b>Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership development, and the power of nourishing  a culture of leadership.</b></span></div><div><a href="http://www.dalarinternational.com" target="_blank">www.dalarinternational.com</a> </div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><div><a href="http://www.dalarinternational.com/upcoming-workshops/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">>> Learn More & Register</a> for any of our upcoming workshops here.</div><div><br></div></div><div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px"><img src="https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1JasXHRKxGtUQC72ySjjudKcQqLzp0c0n&revid=0B_EYga0qclsEWTBRZlNWaFdEMUE2Y1dTK1pySlNKZmgwMlZzPQ" width="420" height="105"><br><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"></div></div><div>PO Box 19373, Raleigh, NC, USA 27613</div><div>Phone: 01-919-522-7750<br></div><div><a href="https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=6677c35b38&e=e7zyhHfiqG" style="color:rgb(39,170,225);font-weight:bold;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:15px" target="_blank">Like us on Facebook</a><font face="Arial, sans-serif" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:15px">  </font><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:15px"><a href="https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=c26173f86b&e=e7zyhHfiqG" style="color:rgb(39,170,225);font-weight:bold;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:15px" target="_blank">Connect on LinkedIn</a><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:15px"> </span><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 5:07 PM Peggy Holman via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Like Michael, I have had the experience of leaders making a list behind the scenes and being surprised that participants not only posted everything on their list but also things that they hadn’t thought of that turned out to matter to them. And, of course, the experience of witnessing the passion, interest, and creativity of people often surprises everyone who is in an Open Space meeting for the first time.<div><br></div><div>Jeff, to your question about requisite variety of topics in an Open Space, I see that as a matter of being mindful about invitation. The biggest investment of preparation time for the Open Spaces I’m involved with are inviting, as Harrison would say, “the people who care.” Whomever I’m working with, I encourage them to do the work of thinking through, given their purpose, who makes up the system — who are the people who care? In many cases, that may include involving a microcosm in shaping the organizing question and invitation so that it resonates with the people of the system.</div><div><br></div><div>I take my cue on how to think about who makes up the system from Marv Weisbord and Sandra Janoff’s rubric of inviting the people who “ARE IN” — with <u>A</u>uthority, <u>R</u>esources, <u>E</u>xpertise, <u>I</u>nformation, and <u>N</u>eed. I also suggest an overlay for considering demographic diversity. For thinking about that, I draw from the Maynard Institute’s “Fault lines” - race, class, gender, geography, and generation and two “fissures” - politics and religion. Not all dimensions apply to every situation but bringing them up enables the people planning the Open Space to make a conscious choice about whom they invite and how.</div><div><br></div><div>This is a long-winded way of saying that my experience is that by doing the work to invite a requisite variety of people, a requisite variety of topics will show up. And then, to the principle of whoever comes is the right people, I let go of worrying about it.</div><div><br></div><div>Birgitt — to words and embodied experience, yes you are saying what I meant: <i>it is not the words used that are most likely to help, rather the embodied experience</i>. For example, describing the experience of Open Space and what it produces can be enough for some. For most of us, hearing a description or even seeing a video doesn’t come close to being there. It is a multi-dimensional experience that involves, head, heart, body, spirit. Rarely does this come across in a description. A story might communicate more of it. But I’m guessing most people discover some aspect they hadn’t expected from just reading, hearing, or watching a video about it.</div><div><br></div><div>Appreciatively,</div><div>Peggy</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Nov 17, 2021, at 1:52 PM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div>Dear Birgitt,<br><br>your two sentences:<br><br>"My perspective: following the principles of OST, spirit shows up in the moment, inspiring people to post exactly the topics that need to be posted at that moment in time. This dynamic is altered when relying on anyone to pre-post topics, or to set meta-topics, catering to limitation rather than abundance of possibilities."<br><br>had some memories come up.<br><br>In at least three of the ost events I was involved in it turned out that the sponsors prepared a set of "issuse" they felt should be part of the event before the event... in case nobody would post them.<br>To the surprises of the sponsors all their issues were posted by the participants.<br>In addition, they themselves experienced that other issues entered their mind during the process that they then posted.<br>In many other ost events sponors were very surprised about the broad passion, interest, creativity, etc. and most of all selforganisation that manifested...<br><br>For what actually happens when ost is part of the everyday life of an organisation over a number of years with a special focus on the vast system of that enterprise have a look here<br><blockquote type="cite"><a href="https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Practicing-Open-Space-Our-First-Ten-Years-E-Book" target="_blank">https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Practicing-Open-Space-Our-First-Ten-Years-E-Book</a><br></blockquote><br>in English, French, Polish, Spanish and Chinese ... translated from the German Original by ost-colleagues all of you know<br><br>Cheers from Berlin<br>mmp<br><br><br><br><br>Am 17.11.2021 um 21:32 schrieb Birgitt Williams via OSList:<br><blockquote type="cite">Jeff...thanks for sharing the article and for the discussion that emanated from the question you posed to the OS list. I have enjoyed the responses and look forward to more conversation showing up. You have added more great questions.<br>You asked:Do we assume that the passion and responsibility of a gathered group will create the requisite variety of topics/contexts to generate excellent Warm Data from a theme question, and foster these unseen transcontextual sources of systems changing creativity?<br>Or does the sponsor need to think up and post the outlying topics/contexts to invite that fruitful variety?<br>What are the upsides and downsides of having a passionate advocate post and host each topic of conversation? What topics don't get posted, and does that limit the potential and health of the system?<br>My perspective: following the principles of OST, spirit shows up in the moment, inspiring people to post exactly the topics that need to be posted at that moment in time. This dynamic is altered when relying on anyone to pre-post topics, or to set meta-topics, catering to limitation rather than abundance of possibilities.<br>Peggy...I am intrigued by your sentences "Sometimes more and different words can help. More often, it takes an embodied experience." I would like to understand more. My current understanding is that it is not the words used that are most likely to help, rather the embodied experience. Is this what you mean?<br>in genuine contact,<br>Birgitt<br>Picture*<br>*<br>*Birgitt Williams*<br>*Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants *<br>*Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership development, and the power of nourishing  a culture of leadership.*<br><a href="http://www.dalarinternational.com" target="_blank">www.dalarinternational.com</a> <<a href="http://www.dalarinternational.com" target="_blank">http://www.dalarinternational.com</a>><br> >> Learn More & Register <<a href="http://www.dalarinternational.com/upcoming-workshops/" target="_blank">http://www.dalarinternational.com/upcoming-workshops/</a>> for any of our upcoming workshops here.<br>PO Box 19373, Raleigh, NC, USA 27613<br>Phone: 01-919-522-7750<br>Like us on Facebook <<a href="https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=6677c35b38&e=e7zyhHfiqG" target="_blank">https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=6677c35b38&e=e7zyhHfiqG</a>><br>Connect on LinkedIn <<a href="https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=c26173f86b&e=e7zyhHfiqG" target="_blank">https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=c26173f86b&e=e7zyhHfiqG</a>><br>On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 7:31 AM Jeff Aitken via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a> <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>> wrote:<br>    Now I am considering whether there is a (hopefully) funny joke<br>    lurking here somewhere.<br>    The facilitator asked the sponsor, "do you want a book of<br>    proceedings created from your event?" And the sponsor said "no, I'm<br>    going for the aphanipoesis, but thanks."<br>    But seriously folks, do we assume that the passion and<br>    responsibility of a gathered group will create the requisite variety<br>    of topics/contexts to generate excellent Warm Data from a theme<br>    question, and foster these unseen transcontextual sources of systems<br>    changing creativity?<br>    Or does the sponsor need to think up and post the outlying<br>    topics/contexts to invite that fruitful variety?<br>    What are the upsides and downsides of having a passionate advocate<br>    post and host each topic of conversation? What topics don't get<br>    posted, and does that limit the potential and health of the system?<br>    What can the OST methodology teach the WDL methodology, and vice versa?<br>    Early morning questions,<br>    Jeff<br>    On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 5:45 PM Peggy Holman via OSList<br>    <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>    <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>> wrote:<br>         From what I can glean in Bateson’s article and what I have<br>        heard about Warm Data, what happens does sound parallel to what<br>        occurs when people meet in Open Space.<br>        I find her writing frustrating. But when one is attempting to<br>        give language to new ideas, it’s rough. The effort falls into a<br>        pattern she discusses: our tendency to want to relate to the<br>        ideas through habitual lenses. Sometimes more and different<br>        words can help. More often, it takes an embodied experience.<br>        Perhaps a Warm Data Lab?<br>        I find her insight that we need a word for life coalescing<br>        towards vitality in unseen ways intriguing. By naming it, I hope<br>        it will become more seen. Sounds like something we want to<br>        notice and grow.<br>        Thanks for sending the article Jeff.<br>        ________________________________<br>        Peggy Holman<br>        Co-founder<br>        Journalism That Matters<br>        Bellevue, WA  98006<br>        206-948-0432<br>        <a href="http://www.journalismthatmatters.org" target="_blank">www.journalismthatmatters.org</a> <<a href="http://www.journalismthatmatters.org" target="_blank">http://www.journalismthatmatters.org</a>><br>        <a href="http://www.peggyholman.com" target="_blank">www.peggyholman.com</a> <<a href="http://www.peggyholman.com" target="_blank">http://www.peggyholman.com</a>><br>        Twitter: @peggyholman<br>        JTM Twitter: @JTMStream<br>        Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval<br>        into Opportunity <<a href="http://www.engagingemergence.com" target="_blank">http://www.engagingemergence.com</a>><br><blockquote type="cite">        On Nov 16, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList<br>        <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>        <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>> wrote:<br><br>        Thanks for sharing this Jeff. I have known about Nora's work<br>        for sometime and although I don't fully understand it yet I<br>        think what I do know of it, it's great.).<br><br>        WHy does she choose the words she chooses? I think because<br>        this is how she has come to an understanding about the simple<br>        truths that Warm Data works with. God know we have some pretty<br>        funny language amongst us all to explain things like "let<br>        people look after things they care about."  But, Jeff, the<br>        first piece you posted of hers makes a lot of sense to me and<br>        is a concise description of Warm Data process, and is very<br>        helpful to me having an "aha" about it.<br><br>        Chris<br><br>        On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 1:37 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList<br>        <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>        <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>> wrote:<br><br>            Also I note that Nora is still very early in the practice<br>            of a methodology that she invented (I think.)<br><br>            Maybe it's like the first five-ten years of OST as folks<br>            were figuring out what the hell this is all about... : )<br><br>            And from the lens of an artist and family therapy<br>            researcher whose father was Gregory Bateson. That makes<br>            sense to me...<br><br>            Warmly<br>            Jeff<br><br>            On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 1:21 PM Jeff Aitken<br>            <<a href="mailto:r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com" target="_blank">r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com</a>>><br>            wrote:<br><br>                Hi Birgitt. My first guess is that it serves<br>                practitioners to be simple, while it serves systems<br>                scientists to be complicated or complex.<br><br>                They are writing about living systems at all scales<br>                and making very subtle distinctions.<br><br>                It may serve us practitioners to have some<br>                appreciation for the latter. "Your mileage may vary"<br>                tho, as a friend says!<br><br>                Warmly<br>                Jeff<br><br>                On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 1:10 PM Birgitt Williams<br>                <<a href="mailto:birgittwilliams@gmail.com" target="_blank">birgittwilliams@gmail.com</a><br>                <<a href="mailto:birgittwilliams@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:birgittwilliams@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br><br>                    Jeff..I don't understand why it serves to be so<br>                    complicated? Why not simply refer to seen and unseen?<br><br>                    Birgitt<br><br>                    On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 3:57 PM Jeff Aitken via<br>                    OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>                    <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>> wrote:<br><br>                        One more email - I was amiss to mention this<br>                        new theory by Nora, without defining the word<br>                        she is introducing, and she finds occurring in<br>                        Warm Data Lab and I think is true in OST too.<br><br>                        It is "a way to describe a life giving<br>                        process, by which vitality, healing, and<br>                        creativity come into being by the coalescence<br>                        of multiple unseen factors."<br><br>                        "Aphanipoiesis combines two words from ancient<br>                        Greek to describe this way in which life<br>                        coalesces toward vitality in unseen ways.<br>                        (Aphanis comes from a Greek root meaning<br>                        obscured, unseen, unnoticed; poiesis is from<br>                        one meaning to bring forth, to make.)"<br><br>                        Yes it's an academic term, and is presented at<br>                        a systems science conference and in a journal<br>                        article.<br><br>                        Useful for practitioners to think about and to<br>                        notice in our work? That's my question for the<br>                        oslist.<br><br>                        It reminds me of Harrison's definition of<br>                        "peace" in The Practice of Peace. With an<br>                        emphasis on the unseen, internal, very subtle<br>                        shifts that take place that are NOT reflected<br>                        in proceedings and action plans.<br><br>                        Warmly, Jeff.<br><br>                        Reference:<br><br>                        Bateson, N.,(2021). Aphanipoiesis. In Journal<br>                        of the International Society for the Systems<br>                        Sciences, Proceedings of the 64th Annual<br>                        Meeting of the ISSS, Virtual (Vol. 1, №1) —<br>                        under review.<br><br><br><br>                        This work was presented at the Annual<br>                        Biosemiotics Conference June 2021, the Annual<br>                        Conference of the International Society of<br>                        Systems Sciences July 2021, and the Annual<br>                        conference of the Institute of General<br>                        Semantics September 2021.<br><br><br>                        On Mon, Nov 15, 2021, 11:16 PM Jeff Aitken<br>                        <<a href="mailto:r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com" target="_blank">r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com</a><br>                        <<a href="mailto:r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br><br>                            As a refresher or quick intro to the<br>                            process, Warm Data Lab starts with a group<br>                            of folks and a theme question. But the<br>                            topics of conversation are chosen in<br>                            advance by sponsor and facilitator. Each<br>                            breakout table (or area) gets a topic<br>                            written on a sign: which names a context<br>                            from which to address the theme question.<br><br>                            So if the theme is drug abuse, the chosen<br>                            wide variety of contexts might be:<br>                            education, prisons, public health,<br>                            initiation, addiction, pharmaceuticals,<br>                            parenting, ceremony, etc. People go to the<br>                            breakouts of their choice and stay or move<br>                            as they wish. The law of mobility is used.<br>                            A closing circle might end the event after<br>                            some number of hours.<br><br>                            It has some qualities of OST and World<br>                            Cafe while being different.<br><br>                            I've only been in one WDL so other folks<br>                            might improve my description.<br><br>                            Jeff<br><br>                            On Mon, Nov 15, 2021, 7:22 PM Jeff Aitken<br>                            <<a href="mailto:r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com" target="_blank">r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com</a><br>                            <<a href="mailto:r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br><br>                                Where does systemic change take place?<br>                                I am reflecting on earlier posts about<br>                                the Warm Data Lab and comparing -<br>                                contrasting this work with other<br>                                hosted conversation processes like OST.<br><br>                                What seems different - please correct<br>                                this if it's wrong - is the level of<br>                                attention paid to the complex ways in<br>                                which WDL might help bring about<br>                                change. Looking well beyond action<br>                                plans and carefully harvested<br>                                proceedings etc.<br><br>                                This may be a fruitful area of inquiry<br>                                for OST folks. (The subject line here<br>                                is from a reference in a book by Nora<br>                                Bateson's late father Gregory.)<br><br>                                Nora Bateson just shared a video and<br>                                long essay, coming out prior to her<br>                                essay being published soon in a<br>                                journal. She is introducing a new term<br>                                "aphanipoiesis" to the conversation of<br>                                systemic transformation.<br><br>                                The essay is here:<br>                                <a href="https://norabateson.medium.com/aphanipoiesis-96d8aed927bc" target="_blank">https://norabateson.medium.com/aphanipoiesis-96d8aed927bc</a><br>                                <<a href="https://norabateson.medium.com/aphanipoiesis-96d8aed927bc" target="_blank">https://norabateson.medium.com/aphanipoiesis-96d8aed927bc</a>><br><br>                                Some teaser paragraphs for us. Can<br>                                this also be said about OST, but we<br>                                just don't??<br><br>                                "Rewilding the Interior<br><br><br>                                In the words of the Warm Data hosting<br>                                theory, we tend the “about” so that<br>                                what is re-configured is in the<br>                                “within.” It does not really matter<br>                                what people talk “about” in a Warm<br>                                Data Lab. There is nothing to capture<br>                                at that level. What matters is the way<br>                                the participants are internally sewing<br>                                together the different conversations<br>                                and contexts. On a transcript this<br>                                information is inaccessible.<br><br>                                "In the Warm Data processes,<br>                                communication in explicit form is not<br>                                held to be the communication of<br>                                interest. That level of conversation<br>                                is there as a skeleton, onto which the<br>                                stories not told reshape the person<br>                                who did not tell them, the alterations<br>                                in tone, the re-tilted perception is<br>                                given free rein to rub memories and<br>                                stories against each other. One<br>                                comment that comes up repeatedly is,<br>                                “Your story changed my story.” Through<br>                                this “side-by-side-ing,” stories told<br>                                change stories almost told, and their<br>                                bearers are able to reshape their<br>                                impressions in ways that are untamed.<br>                                By careful tending of the “about” and<br>                                “within,” the rich world of memory and<br>                                story re-wilds.<br><br><br>                                "The gaps are where the hope of<br>                                systemic transformation is waiting. In<br>                                the Warm Data processes, participants<br>                                are given a structure to re-stitch, to<br>                                re-wild, to begin a new abductive<br>                                process into these gaps. Again, by<br>                                placing the contexts of life<br>                                side-by-side in new configurations,<br>                                the aphanipoietic processes are given<br>                                room, without conscious purpose or<br>                                goals or defined outcomes, without<br>                                scripts or roles or trends — to allow<br>                                the tender new beginnings of another<br>                                abductive description to form mutually.<br><br>                                "Through this work, I have found I<br>                                needed this term to embark on a deeper<br>                                study of the importance of<br>                                aphanipoiesis. The changes I witness<br>                                occurring in the Warm Data processes<br>                                are completely unpredictable and<br>                                profound. They suggest ever more<br>                                vividly that there is a real, if<br>                                unseen, mingling of the body, culture,<br>                                education, family — and a whole batch<br>                                of transcontextual experience that is<br>                                guiding all other actions. It is to<br>                                this change that I have devoted my<br>                                efforts toward systemic transformation."<br><br>                                Warmly,<br>                                Jeff<br>                                Yelamu / San Francisco<br><br><br><br><br><br>                        _______________________________________________<br>                        OSList mailing list<br>                        To post send emails to<br>                        <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>                        <<a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>                        To unsubscribe send an email to<br>                        <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>                        <<a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>                        To subscribe or manage your subscription click<br>                        below:<br>                        <a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><br>                        <<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a>><br>                        Past archives can be viewed here:<br>                        <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>                        <<a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br><br>            _______________________________________________<br>            OSList mailing list<br>            To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>            <<a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>            To unsubscribe send an email to<br>            <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org" tar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