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Hi Mark,<br>
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The software we use is version 2.1.23 of GNU MailMan, which is an
open source email distribution list management platform. Our MailMan
service is provided for free by DreamHost.com, who also provides
free webhosting service to the Open Space Institute - U.S.
DreamHost.com has been a great company, and they offer free
webhosting to 501(c)(3) non-profits.<br>
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I agree that the MailMan needs an major upgrade. An upgrade is not
something offered by DreamHost, though I can install it on the
DreamHost servers. But I hope no one thinks we are back in the
"stone ages", or "when the internet was first invented". I treasure
your passion for truth, but I don't like being disrespected or
dishonored, especially with falsehoods. Here are the facts.<br>
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1) The date of the invention of the internet is somewhat fuzzy, but
the real guy who invented the internet (standing on the shoulders of
many others) was Vinton Cerf, who designed the TCP/IP protocols in
the 1970's. TCP/IP was accepted as the ARPANET protocol in 1983.<br>
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2) Version 2.1.23 GNU MailMan is relatively old, released in August
2016. The latest 2.x version is 2.1.34 released in June of 2020. But
it just minor issues. I'd like to update to version 3.3.2 (Nov 6,
2020). which has a more modern interface.<br>
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3) We are an EMAIL based system. For most people, it's not going to
look very different, no matter what system we use. Everyone gets to
use their own email program. We aren't forcing anyone to use a
website, download an app to their phones, etc.<br>
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4) There are other closed platforms we could use. (Like
GoogleGroups, Groups.IO, etc. etc.). These platforms do have their
own community standards, and they do forbid certain conversations. I
don't think that is appropriate for the main Open Space online
conversation. I hope we can stay independent.<br>
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Mark - I am valuing your feedback. We do need a major upgrade, for
multiple reasons beyond your personal experience of the formatting
(which I have explained how you can fix in an earlier email). But I
don't think you are being fair or accurate.<br>
<br>
Harold<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/27/21 6:15 PM, Mark Carmel via
OSList wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">It is so hard to follow a thread of thought. When
was this platform started? When the internet was first invented?
Come on folks, let's catch up with a workable format. This is
in need of a major upgrade. Thanks for your consideration,
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Harold Shinsato<br>
<a href="mailto:harold@shinsato.com">harold@shinsato.com</a><br>
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