<div dir="ltr">holding a space big enough for the oslist requires really GIANT naps. expect, and celebrate, apparent delays!<div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div> <br>--<br><br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates</div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">312-280-7838 (mobile)</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><a href="http://MichaelHerman.com" target="_blank">MichaelHerman.com</a><br><a href="http://OpenSpaceWorld.org" target="_blank">OpenSpaceWorld.org</a></div><div><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 8:30 AM Harold Shinsato via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
Hi Romy, Anne,<br>
<br>
I don't use, nor do I recommend the "Digest" format. You can change
that if you scroll to the bottom of every email from the OSList and
manage your subscription. You might need to reset your password if
you have forgotten it.<br>
<br>
I know it means less email traffic in your inbox if you receive the
"Digest" format, but it makes it really hard for the rest of us to
know when you reply what email you are replying to. And the digest
format will not be in the nice format like you want. I don't have
the capacity to write another group email program to fix that.<br>
<br>
Threads are a feature of your email reading program. I can turn on
threads for my Thunderbird. By default the GMail app lists things by
conversations, as do many others. But GMail doesn't do that if you
use the GNU MailMan Digest feature - which jams a whole bunch of
OSList emails into a single email. And you can't change how MailMan
does the jamming.<br>
<br>
Hope that makes sense. And my profuse apologies for not being an
active moderator or manager of the OSList, and that I don't reply
quickly to requests. Sometimes I don't even see them. Many many
apologies! There is a big chunk of work on my plate for the OSList
to upgrade us to the latest version which should solve several
problems, though I don't think it will solve the "Digest" problem.
I'm hoping all of us can self-manage most of the other needs.<br>
<br>
Harold<br>
<br>
<div>On 1/26/21 3:14 AM, Romy Shovelton via
OSList wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
Hello Harold,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It was SO lovely to see you and be with you at the
weekend. The person who is behind so much work to keep us all in
touch via the OSLIST… and with us once again, helping with all
sorts of technical magic. Thanks again.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I wonder if you might be able to help me with the
way that the OSLIST arrives into my Mach Mail programme? As you
see below…. I receive this list with duplicates of conversations
through it + lots of other general stuff… making it hard to pick
out the thread of a conversation. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Suzanne showed me how she receives OSLIST in her
gmail account - in wonderfully clear threads, where you can see
responses to a particular posting, and not extraneous bla bla. I
tried logging into gmail, rather than my Mach Mail programme,
and unfortunately did not receive the OSLIST in the way that
Suzanne does.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Do you have any clues about what I might do?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks again SO much</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Romy</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
<div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><b>Romy Shovelton</b><br>
<br>
<b>Executive Director</b><br>
<b>Wikima</b> and the <b>5*
Tyddyn Retreat<br>
Mid Wales Venue & Holiday Cottages</b><br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.wikima.com" target="_blank">www.wikima.com</a><br>
<b><a href="http://www.walescottageandvenue.com" target="_blank">www.walescottageandvenue.com</a></b><br>
Facebook: Tyddyn Retreat<br>
Twitter: @MidWalesRetreat</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">Instagram: tyddynretreat<br>
<br>
<a href="mailto:romy.shovelton@gmail.com" target="_blank">romy.shovelton@gmail.com</a></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><a href="mailto:romy@walescottageandvenue.com" target="_blank">romy@walescottageandvenue.com</a><br>
<a href="mailto:romy@wikima.com" target="_blank">romy@wikima.com</a><br>
skype: romy shovelton<br>
<br>
+44 (0) 7767 370739<br>
+44 (0) 1686 420725<br>
<br>
Tyddyn y Pwll, Carno<br>
Caersws, Powys, SY17 5JU</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div><br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>Begin forwarded message:</div>
<br>
<div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:oslist-request@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist-request@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>
</span></div>
<div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif"><b>OSList
Digest, Vol 117, Issue 29</b><br>
</span></div>
<div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">25 January 2021 at
23:28:45 GMT<br>
</span></div>
<div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>
</span></div>
<div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>
</span></div>
<br>
<div><span style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Send OSList mailing list
submissions to</span><br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<span style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"> </span><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline;font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<span style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">To subscribe or unsubscribe via
the World Wide Web, visit</span><br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<span style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"> </span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline;font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<span style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">or, via email, send a message with
subject or body 'help' to</span><br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<span style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"> </span><a href="mailto:oslist-request@lists.openspacetech.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline;font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">oslist-request@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<span style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">You can reach the person managing
the list at</span><br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<span style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"> </span><a href="mailto:oslist-owner@lists.openspacetech.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline;font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">oslist-owner@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<span style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">When replying, please edit your
Subject line so it is more specific</span><br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<span style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">than "Re: Contents of OSList
digest..."</span><br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<span style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Today's Topics:</span><br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<span style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline"> 1. Being present and listen
(K?ri Gunnarsson)</span><br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<span style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline"> 2. Re: Reply to Jeff Aitken on
Four Fold Way of Leadership... It</span><br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<span style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline"> Ain't Working Brother...
(Jeff Aitken)</span><br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<span style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline"> 3. Re: Reply to Jeff Aitken on
Four Fold Way of Leadership... It</span><br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<span style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline"> Ain't Working Brother...
(Jeff Aitken)</span><br style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<span style="font-family:TrebuchetMS;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline"> 4. Kurs f?r Online Open Space
Facilitation (Alexander Schilling)</span></div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<div>-- <br>
Harold Shinsato<br>
<a href="mailto:harold@shinsato.com" target="_blank">harold@shinsato.com</a><br>
<a href="https://shinsato.com" target="_blank">https://shinsato.com</a><br>
twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/hajush" target="_blank">@hajush</a>
</div>
</div>
_______________________________________________<br>
OSList mailing list<br>
To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>
To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>
To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>
<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><br>
Past archives can be viewed here: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a></blockquote></div>