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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020>...Recalling an interview with Nora Bateson sharing one
of the "key-rules" </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020>of her childhood amazing open space (my take on that)
learning playground: </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020>"There is no such thing as a stupid question"...
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020>For this reason and for a sensed excitement around
process (design) questions, </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020>I am glad this question was asked. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020>Thank you, Dear Robyn! </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020>However I'd go beyond comparison and beyond contrast...
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020>Beyond these, the exploration feels fascinating
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020>and deeper/wider/ more artful even perhaps
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020>questions even more so... </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020>For me (and no I'm not "a trained WD host" not even a
"trained open space host") </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020>I'm just a big </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#000080
face=Calibri><SPAN class=455502019-04062020>lover of both:
<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020>There is something in self-organisation that dances so
well with warm dating... </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020>-What is it? What are the processes that can
courageously hold us or teach us or take us
deeper/higher...?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020> in this submerging?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020>Kindly & With Curiosity and Warmth,
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020>Maria </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020>~~~ </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri><SPAN
class=455502019-04062020></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>Από:</B> OSList
[mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] <B>εκ μέρους του </B>Alan
Halford via OSList<BR><B>Αποστολή:</B> 01 June 2020 11:44<BR><B>Προς:</B> World
wide Open Space Technology email list<BR><B>Κοιν.:</B> Alan
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<DIV>On 1 Jun 2020, at 3:57 pm, Jeroen Vermeer via OSList <<A
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Although much has been said already
on this topic, I'd like to offer my insights as a trained WDL host. Simply put:
don't even try to compare OST and WDL, just not worth the exercise. The Warm
Data Lab has been designed as a process to let people experience the rich
interdependencies of complex systems and questions. It can for example serve as
a precursor to an OST event, or be a standalone process. It has no purpose other
than to create a lived experience (and thereby altered perception) of the
participants on the interdependencies. As Nora Bateson likes to say "perception
is action", so it's effects are not to be underestimated. The process itself
looks to be very simple, but there's actually a lot to it, which goes well
beyond what I can explain. Please follow Nora Bateson herself through the many
writings she has shared or the podcasts she has taken a part in. Watch her fillm
'An ecology of Mind', or take her training ;)
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<DIV class=mb_sig>Warm regards,
<DIV>Hartelijke groet,
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<DIV>Jeroen Vermeer</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_attr dir=ltr>On Sat, May 30, 2020, 8:07 AM Michael M Pannwitz
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write "open space" in lower case is my trademark, so please, respect
it<BR><BR>greetings from Berlin where I enjoy the last spring days and the
open <BR>beer garden in my neighborhood... its not the same thing as a
couple of <BR>martini cocktails so I have no new insights...<BR><BR>I wonder
what a "Cold Data Lab" would look like or even a "Hot Data Lab" <BR>or a
"Temperate Data Lab" or a "Fragrant Data Lab"...<BR><BR>Be on the watch for
Holy Spirit in the next couple of days<BR><BR>mmp<BR>Am 30.05.2020 um 13:20
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