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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=SV link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Sounds like a great idea to me Bhavesh, as long as she/he understands the context, then whoever comes and what & where ever it happens…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Looking forward to meeting many of you!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Thomas Herrmann<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Open Space Consulting AB<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Pensévägen 4, 434 46 Kungsbacka, Sweden<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Telefon: +46 (0)709 98 97 81<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Email: thomas@openspaceconsulting.com<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Homepage: </span><a href="http://www.openspaceconsulting.com/"><span lang=EN-US style='color:#0563C1'>www.openspaceconsulting.com</span></a> <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Profile on LinkedIn: </span><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/thomasherrmannopenspaceconsult"><span lang=EN-US style='color:#0563C1'>www.linkedin.com/in/thomasherrmannopenspaceconsult</span></a> <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Company page on Facebook: </span><a href="http://www.facebook.com/OpenSpaceConsulting"><span lang=EN-US style='color:#0563C1'>www.facebook.com/OpenSpaceConsulting</span></a> <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Open Space Consulting frigör livskraft i människor, organisationer och samhälle.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>We release lifepower in people, organizations and society.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='color:#833C0B'>Medskapande är hör för att stanna – dags att vässa er förmåga?<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=EN-US style='color:#C45911'>Co-creation is here to stay – time to sharpen your skills?<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>Trainings/workshops 2020<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>March 12 Online erfa-utbyte om Open Space-metoden (gratis!)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>March 25 5toFold Decision making (online). Genuine Contact Speciality workshops<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>April 2-3 Cross Cultural Conflict Resolution – Netherlands<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>June 7-11 Från vanespår till integration – den glömda kreativiteten. <span lang=EN-US>Öland, Sweden<br> (From old habits to integration – the hidden creativity)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Sept 1-3 Working with Open Space Technology - Netherlands<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Sept 4-5 Genuine Contact Mentoring circle, Amsterdam Netherlands<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Oct 25-27 Working with Whole Person Process Facilitation – Berlin, Germany<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>Trainings/workshops 2021<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Febr 2-5 Genuine Contact Organization – Netherlands<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Apr 12-16 Genuine Contact Train the Trainer - Netherlands<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>More info & registration: </span><a href="http://www.openspaceconsulting.com/"><span lang=EN-US style='color:#0563C1'>www.openspaceconsulting.com</span></a><span lang=EN-US> (Aktiviteter)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Or get in touch via email </span><a href="mailto:thomas@openspaceconsulting.com"><span lang=EN-US style='color:#0563C1'>thomas@openspaceconsulting.com</span></a> <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=500 height=100 style='width:5.2083in;height:1.0416in' id="Bild_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D5E72D.04B764D0"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>Från:</b> OSList <oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org> <b>För </b>Bhavesh Patel via OSList<br><b>Skickat:</b> den 19 februari 2020 10:52<br><b>Till:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br><b>Kopia:</b> Bhavesh Patel <bhavmail@gmail.com>; Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz@gmail.com><br><b>Ämne:</b> Re: [OSList] What's going on with the OST entry on Wikipedia lately?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>And here is a random idea.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Berlin has the second biggest Wikipedia organisation in the world, over 100 people.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>One of the things that Wikipedians love to do is to run live 'learn how to edit the Wikipedia' sessions.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>I am quite connected with the Berlin organisation, and Jo T has met them as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>I could ask if:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Someone from the Berlin Wikipedia community wants to offer an editing session at the WOSonOS.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Whoever shows up for that session will both learn how to edit the Wikipedia and practice editing by working on the Open Space Technology page.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>What do you think/feel?</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 11:38, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Dear Steve,<br><br>first impression I had on reading the wikipedia entry was: Sabotage.<br><br>I checked the German version. Even though I am not happy with it (being <br>a radical purist) its more or less ok. In the meantime, the actual <br>practice is far more developed as well as the understanding what OST is <br>really about (expand time and space for the force of selforganisation to <br>unfold) is not reflected upon.<br><br>It seems to me the next WOSonOS in October in Berlin is an opportunity <br>for all interested in this to post the wikipedia entry as an issue. <br>Maybe even in different languages (I never would suggest translating the <br>english version into another language), such as German, Swedish, <br>Chinese, Hebrew, Dutch, Italian (I am suggesting these knowing that <br>folks from countries where these languages are common will be at the <br>WOSonOS).<br><br>In general, I love wikipedia and the way that stuff is characterized <br>("This article contains content that is written like an advertisement. <br>Please help improve it by removing promotional content and inappropriate <br>external links, and by adding encyclopedic content written from a <br>neutral point of view. (July 2018) (Learn how and when to remove this <br>template message") gives you hints on the quality of the entry.<br>There seems to be no way of avoiding folks messing with an entry that <br>are from a different planet.<br><br>Greetings from Berlin<br>mmp<br><br><br>Am 19.02.2020 um 00:27 schrieb Steve Holyer via OSList:<br>> Hi Ya'll,<br>> <br>> Yesterday, I checked Wikipedia for a quick encyclopedic description of <br>> Open Space Technology.<br>> <br>> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology</a><br>> <br>> It seems that several edits were made in the last 6 months ago or so. Up <br>> until mid 2019 I thought the wikipedia entry was good (if lacking in <br>> some nuance out of necessity). After changes, the current entry <br>> describes a very unusual Open Space. The Open Space it describes is not <br>> an Open Space that I want to be a part of.<br>> <br>> I recognise Wikipedia is not going to be perfect, but I feel like the <br>> current entry is actually misleading, and I think it's harmful. I'd <br>> like to do something about that.<br>> <br>> I'm raising this to the OSLIST because I see that Harrison, Chris <br>> Corrigan and others were actively making edits on the Wikipedia entry <br>> and discussing it on this list between 2008 and 2015 at least. I don' <br>> see anyone from this community working on this now (although I could <br>> have missed some signs). However, I know there is history and <br>> experience here dealing with the Wikipedia ecosystem.<br>> <br>> If it's a good use of time and energy, I can help make edits to the <br>> page, but my question is how would we approach this as member of the <br>> community on OSLIST? What experience and history can members here bring <br>> to bear.<br>> <br>> (Btw this IS my first posting to OLIST, but I've been lurking around, <br>> and meeting different parts of<br>> this community online and face to face.)<br>> <br>> That's the gist of my question. A few details/examples follow my signature.<br>> <br>> Cheers,<br>> Steve<br>> <br>> A few of the more outrageous details/examples (IMO)<br>> <br>> There is text that appears to describe the sponsor introducing paid <br>> speakers in the opening. (I don't think a circle is mentioned).<br>> <br>> In fact, the article keeps referring to the "speakers" and the "speaking <br>> schedule", which gives me the impression that Open Space is a talking <br>> head conference that's simply easier to organise because you don't have <br>> to make speaker schedules in advance.<br>> <br>> This statement from the article seems antithetical to Open Space <br>> Technology to me: "At the end of the best open space meetings, a <br>> debriefing document is compiled summarizing what worked and what did not <br>> work, so the process can go more smoothly next time ... Constant <br>> improvement of meeting design is vital for attendees to feel taken care <br>> of and to creating the perception of value from the meeting proceedings."<br>> <br>> The article claims to be paraphrasing Micheal Hermann's post here at <br>> OSWorld <br>> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150518200725/http:/openspaceworld.org/wp2/what-is/" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20150518200725/http://openspaceworld.org/wp2/what-is/</a> <br>> by stating: "Several meaningful outcomes can and should be specifically <br>> built into the process (safety, trust, courtesy)". I don't Michael says <br>> anything of the sort. Don't think he would. But if he does say it, he <br>> doesn't say it in the post referenced by the citation.<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> OSList mailing list<br>> To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>> To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>> <a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><br>> Past archives can be viewed here: <br>> <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br><br>-- <br>Michael M Pannwitz<br>Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany<br>++49 - 30-772 8000<br><a href="mailto:mmpannwitz@gmail.com" target="_blank">mmpannwitz@gmail.com</a><br><br><br>Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 489 resident Open <br>Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 142 countries worldwide<br><a href="http://www.openspaceworldmap.org" target="_blank">www.openspaceworldmap.org</a><br><br>At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space and other <br>treasures, most in German, some in English, some as ebooks, some <br>multilingual<br><a href="https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation" target="_blank">https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><br>Past archives can be viewed here: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>