<div dir="ltr">Paul, if I remember right, the severely dehydrated need to be restored with IV's. <grin> The water analogy is a good one though, in another sense... We all have something we call a mind, but many people never look at mind. People have been teaching meditation for a long time to do just that. The teachings vary from "sit this way" to the more direct "look at your mind." The usual analogy is that we are like fish who don't know we are in water. What good does awareness of water do for a fish? Hard to say, but awareness of mind and organization spaces seems to help people. As for teaching? It's easy to point it out in a minute or a second as you say, but it takes some work and practice to stabilize that view, in action. Teaching or coaching can be helpful with that I think. <div><br><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div> <br>--<br><br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates</div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">312-280-7838 (mobile)</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><a href="http://MichaelHerman.com" target="_blank">http://MichaelHerman.com</a><br><a href="http://OpenSpaceWorld.org" target="_blank">http://OpenSpaceWorld.org</a></div><div><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 9:58 AM Royle, Karl via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just a thought…. Also see therapeutic governance <span style="font-family:"Apple Color Emoji"">
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 20 August 2019 at 16:47<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Tony Budak <<a href="mailto:tonybudak@tbmw.org" target="_blank">tonybudak@tbmw.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association for Peace and Human Understanding...?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p>How about "Learning Networks that re-engage people into a learning culture that is relevant to their lives, supports their aspirations and recognizes their own inherent talents?"<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Please CLICK the following to set up a meeting. All my contact info is here:<br>
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Thanks for creating our tomorrows,<br>
Tony<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 8/19/2019 11:29 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1st of all thank you for everyone who gave me feedback on my big idea for certification. It was sincerely appreciated. However I can see it was something that did not Resonate well.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Open space technology has clearly set the standard for the facilitation of peace and human understanding. It is such a powerful and simple tool but highly complex. As Harrison says.. chaos plows the fields of the mind so that new ideas
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think it is highly important for the leadership of our open space world to make a decision now while we still have Harrison among us as a living spirit. Because we have already set the standards why not cement the standards and turn it
into an everlasting association that could be organized to deliver training, etc. To advance the mission of human peace and understanding in a more organized way?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you want to be a beautician or a mechanic or a rocket scientist or a city manager there are associations for that .<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Why not an association for open space technology practitioners to define the standards, the ethics, code of conduct, the way that Harrison has already articulated them, but to formalize them and help us get organized and stay organized
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<p class="MsoNormal">Respectfully submitted,<u></u><u></u></p>
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