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    <p>Mark,</p>
    <p>I'd like to move away from the <i>position</i> ("certification,
      yes or no" has been discussed a lot) and towards the <i>need</i>
      that you seem to see - the need that would be fulfilled by
      certification, in your opinion. So, I'm truly interested in a few
      things:</p>
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      <li>What burning need of the community isn't fulfilled yet, one
        that you can describe without even mentioning "certification",
        because it is an underlying need?<br>
      </li>
      <li>Which alternatives to fulfill that need can you think of, in
        case people aren't too fond of a call to a certification debate?</li>
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    <p>At the moment, I'm struggling with spotting such a need, and I
      attribute that to not being in your shoes.<br>
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    <p>Best,<br>
      Rolf<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Mark Carmel via OSList schrieb am
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Dear World
          Wide Open Space Technologists,</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">ALL we have
          to do ONLY requires a collective DECISION.  </div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Here is the
          question:  Are you IN or out?</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Mark Carmel</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Wannabe
          Certified OST</div>
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