<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thank you for this description, Peggy, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And for enlightening me on what you brought into that Closing Circle, without naming it.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So a wish of mine had been fulfilled, and I never knew! </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I had discovered Bohm Dialogue in 2004, after several OSTs the year before. In more „normal“ OST’s I found that sometimes the conversation was too mental and linear for me, and too little listening took place. So I was interested in ways of going deeper. His book opened up new possibilities and touched me deeply. Yet I couldn’t find anyone close by who actually used it. I had a strong wish of participating in such a Dialogue. Now, 14 years later, I learn that I actually did. Big smile over here...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Marai</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">PS: I appreciate your links and the document you attached. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 16.07.2019 um 00:23 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Marai,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I don’t think I ever mentioned Bohm Dialogue in Halifax. It just informed my offering to what we did in that closing circle. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohm_Dialogue" class="">Bohm Dialogue</a> is a form of circle process. It was the first practice I ever experienced in which a large group (200+ people) sat in a circle and deeply explored a complex subject. The year was 1993 and practicing this form of interaction is in part what set me up to appreciate the power of Open Space when I met Harrison in 1994. (BTW, Bohm Dialogue is more typically done with 20-40 people. But that first time was at a conference in Portland, Oregon with Peter Senge and they had 200+ people sitting in 2 concentric circles. I’d never seen anything like that before. In fact, it was an experiment for the conference organizers.)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In short, David Bohm was a physicist who saw dialogue as pathway for changing consciousness in order to solve crises facing the planet. In fact, he wrote a book called <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Changing-Consciousness-Exploring-Political-Environmental/dp/0062500724" class="">Changing Consciousness</a>. He also wrote a seminal essay called <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=MGGF_oF_aY0C&printsec=frontcover&dq=%22on+dialogue%22&hl=en&src=bmrr&ei=ARyeTd3tIMntObq92bQE&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=book-thumbnail&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6wEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false" class="">On Dialogue</a>. These were early influences for me.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What we did in that circle in Halifax was based on what I had learned and experienced in working with Bohm Dialogue. We engaged in an open-ended reflection in which people listened deeply to one another making our thinking visible to the whole. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Chris’ questions brought the whole system present. We became a “we” as the considered the needs of individuals and the needs of the whole.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Peggy</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">P.S. I found something I put together in 2002 on how I practiced Bohm Dialogue (attached). I eventually moved away from it because it takes so much patience and self-regulation to do. Open Space seemed to yield similar or better results and was much more fun. Still, I see circle processes, like Bohm Dialogue, as the foundation of virtually all systemic, engagement practices.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""></div></div><span id="cid:E64ACCBC-ED6B-45F9-9458-F5C4650C2FF8@localdomain"><Dialogue Practices.pdf></span><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Marai Kiele <<a href="mailto:genuine-contact@joyful-together.com" class="">genuine-contact@joyful-together.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">That’s exactly what I am intending to describe in my short story, Peggy!<div class="">I smile, reading your description.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I don’t remember „Bohm dialogue“ (Are talking objects used in that?) </div><div class="">Please remind me of what exactly you are referring to, so I can integrate that in my story.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">I do have a clear memory of the moment when Chris Corrigan picked up the talking object and spoke up.</div><div class="">As I remember it, besides the „I“ language, he invited all who where expressing themselves to broaden their perspective.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Not just think of „what do I want“ or „what do we, in this room, want“ but include all those around the globe who are not physically there.</div><div class="">What would be best for the longterm flourishing of OST and for all those who belong to the community, in some way or another?</div><div class="">What would be best for those who weren’t capable of bringing their perspective in themselves?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">To me, that was a sacred moment. I experienced that the whole atmosphere shifted, and after a while the next location had become clear to the whole group:</div><div class="">Moscow / Russia.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But I won’t give all the details of my whole story away in this email! ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Marai </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 15.07.2019 um 18:17 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Yes, it was the year of Harrison’s 70th birthday. I remember the dancing!<div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The closing circle keeps coming back to me. We had invitations to go to two places in 2006. We used Bohm dialogue to discern where to go. I remember we used a talking piece among the 50-60 people. I recall setting it up with something like listen to each other and speak when moved. And you, Chris, added the essential guidance to speak “I” language — from personal experience. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Peggy</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I remember 2005…it was celebrating Harrison’s 65th birthday I think too (or was it 70th? I just know it was significant). I wrote a song for him based on a Nova Scotia folks song…I’ll look through my old note books and see if I still have the lyrics. I was so nervous to sing it! I thin I rehearsed it with Esther Ewing, but I was too nervous to do it as a duet! <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I remember too that we also mourned our colleague Colin Morley, who was killed in the July 7 2005 London Underground bombings the month before. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I met some life-long friends at that OSonOS, including Feliz Telik from Turkey and Piret Jeedas from Estonia who were both working (along with Kairi Birk) at Tim Merry’s Split Rock Learning Centre in Yarmouth. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Halifax is such a great city. And it was a really fun time, probably my favourite of the three full OSonOS’s I attended (including the OSonOS IX which I co-hosted with Laurel Doersam in Vancouver in 2001). There was great conversation, a beautiful, community location and dancing and drinking every night!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Chris<br class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 14, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">That (first or second) Day's Inn osonos was late '94. It was after the November US election when Newt G became Speaker of the House (he was on TV at the hotel.) Funny how memory works.<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Jeff</div><div dir="auto" class="">San Francisco</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 1:10 PM Jeff Aitken <<a href="mailto:r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com" class="">r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="">Hi, the archives don't seem to go back that far. Were we on the MetaNet back then? Then the oslist was born in mid 90s when we needed a listserv instead of a website based conversation? <div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I remember the first or second Day's Inn gathering. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Was a nice complement to the OT "Symposium on Organization Transformation" taking place each July in different locations. The 9th US OT was in Colorado '91 and the 12th US OT was in Napa California '94 - and that's the limit of my memory :)</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Jeff</div><div dir="auto" class="">San Francisco</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 10:02 AM Harrison Owen via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class="">The questions of when, how many and where have persisted over the years. Frankly I can't remember either. Even the first one is foggy in terms of year -- but I know where... Day's Inn at Dulles Airport. Suggestion is that you use the search function on OSLIST. Somewhere "back there" I am sure you will find the collective ruminations.
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<div dir="ltr" class="">I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova Scotia. This will likely be published as a contribution to a short stories book.<br class="">
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<div dir="ltr" class="">It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense making (the way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or rather: how it became obvious to the group).<br class="">
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<div dir="ltr" class="">I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are numbers like:<br class="">
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<div dir="ltr" class="">And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before.<br class="">
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<div dir="ltr" class=""> - Since when does WOSonOS exist?<br class="">
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