<div dir="ltr">Really helpful thanks, Daniel.<div><br></div><div>David<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p><b style="font-size:12.8px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica"><span style="font-family:Avenir-Roman;color:rgb(88,88,91)"><br><span style="font-size:14px">David R. Osborne</span></span></b><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Avenir-Roman;color:rgb(127,153,171)">Organization and Leadership Development</span></span></p><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><img height="84" width="180" src="cid:F50CD739-0CB3-4057-980C-62D5983A9F83@hsd1.il.comcast.net." style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><font color="#7f99ab" face="Avenir-Roman"><b style="font-size:11px"><br></b></font><span style="color:rgb(88,88,91);font-family:Avenir-Roman;font-size:10pt">6402 Arlington Blvd., Suite 1120, Falls Church, VA 22042</span> <div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Avenir-Roman;color:rgb(88,88,91)">703-939-1777</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Avenir-Roman;color:rgb(152,191,193)"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Avenir-Black;color:rgb(152,191,193)">  |  </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Avenir-Black;color:rgb(234,123,50)"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Avenir-Roman;color:rgb(88,88,91)"><a href="mailto:dosborne@change-fusion.com" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">dosborne@change-fusion.com</a></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Avenir-Black;color:rgb(234,123,50)"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Avenir-Black;color:rgb(152,191,193)">  |  </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Avenir-Black;color:rgb(234,123,50)"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Avenir-Roman;color:rgb(88,88,91)"><a href="http://change-fusion.com/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">change-fusion.com</a></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 6:08 AM Daniel Mezick via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Hi Jake,<div><br></div><div>There are many failed examples of "mandated self organization." You can imagine the success rate of such an approach.<div><br></div><div>Now, the Agile industry is pretty good at selling this "mandated self organization" stuff. But I'm getting ahead of the story...</div><div><br></div><div>Most of the failure stories do not make it out into the wild. But the insiders do whisper about them. To friends and colleagues. In dinner discussions at conferences. And so on...</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The Mandate of Holacracy at Zappos</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>In 2013-14, Zappos mandated a way of working called 'holacracy.' The idea was, I think, to encourage more self-organization. More good outcomes. I'm sure the intentions were good at the time... </div><div><br></div><div>But there were big problems by late 2013. </div><div><br></div><div>By 2014, the "mandate of holacracy for self-organization at Zappos" was in big trouble, even as the press was celebrating 'holacracy' at Zappos as the future of work, the shining example, the path forward in the new world of work.</div><div><br></div><div>But there were big problems. Lots of resistance. I heard the whispers through a friend on the inside, a person with access to the CEO.</div><div><br></div><div>Through that friend, I quietly offered some help (I had some consulting work inside the org previously,) and in Las Vegas a lunch meeting was arranged with the CEO.</div><div><br></div><div>I flew out there. I showed up with a file folder with some Open Space stuff inside. We ate tacos. </div><div><br></div><div>I talked to Tony, the CEO, and briefly explained OST. I took a few questions. We had a nice lunch. </div><div><br></div><div>The result was that, a couple weeks later, Tony did experiment with a very brief OST of 2 hours at a Zappos all-hands meeting. No burning issue. No proceedings, etc. </div><div><br></div><div>That was it. No further follow-through. No follow-up calls. </div><div><br></div><div>I did not chase the CEO. But after a few more weeks of silence, I did write this: </div><div><br></div><div>The Mandate of Holacracy at Zappos</div><div><a href="https://newtechusa.net/the-mandate-of-holacracy-at-zappos/" target="_blank">https://newtechusa.net/the-mandate-of-holacracy-at-zappos/</a></div><div>I<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Libre Franklin","Helvetica Neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px">n case you have not heard, Zappos is rolling out a defined authority distribution scheme called “holacracy”.</span></div><p style="box-sizing:inherit;margin:0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Libre Franklin","Helvetica Neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px">The way everyone works will change. Every single employee will be forced to comply with a set of rules they had no part in creating.</p><div><br></div><div>At the time, the press was celebrating 'holacracy' at Zappos as the future of work, the shining example, the path forward in the new world of work.</div><div><br></div><div>Everyone in the press was applauding and citing what was going on at Zappos as "the future of work."</div><div><br></div><div>But there was A LOT of resistance to the mandate of 'holacracy' inside Zappos. All of that resistance might have been easily processed positively in Open Space, but the CEO did not select that option. </div><div><br></div><div>Instead, he issued this ultimatum:</div><div><br></div><div>ADOPT HOLACRACY OR LEAVE: </div><div><a href="https://www.fastcompany.com/3044417/zappos-ceo-tony-hsieh-adopt-holacracy-or-leave" target="_blank">https://www.fastcompany.com/3044417/zappos-ceo-tony-hsieh-adopt-holacracy-or-leave</a></div><div><span style="font-family:MeretPro,sans-serif;font-size:19px;letter-spacing:0.2px">Last week, Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh sent his employees the following memo, provided to </span><em style="box-sizing:border-box;font-family:MeretPro,sans-serif;font-size:19px;letter-spacing:0.2px">Fast Company</em><span style="font-family:MeretPro,sans-serif;font-size:19px;letter-spacing:0.2px"> by Zappos. In it he offers his employees an ultimatum: adopt Holacracy or quit.</span></div><div><span style="font-family:MeretPro,sans-serif;font-size:19px;letter-spacing:0.2px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:MeretPro,sans-serif;font-size:19px;letter-spacing:0.2px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:MeretPro,sans-serif;font-size:19px;letter-spacing:0.2px">Moral of Story: "Mandating self-organization" is misguided at best, and profoundly harmful and deeply disrespectful to people at worst. And: </span></div><div><span style="font-family:MeretPro,sans-serif;font-size:19px;letter-spacing:0.2px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:MeretPro,sans-serif;font-size:19px;letter-spacing:0.2px">1. All systems are open</span></div><div><span style="font-family:MeretPro,sans-serif;font-size:19px;letter-spacing:0.2px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:MeretPro,sans-serif;font-size:19px;letter-spacing:0.2px">2. All systems are self-organizing</span></div><div><span style="font-family:MeretPro,sans-serif;font-size:19px;letter-spacing:0.2px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:MeretPro,sans-serif;font-size:19px;letter-spacing:0.2px">3. Open Space can help</span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> I hope this story helps you Jake. This Google search leads to these listings if you want to examine the story in detail: </div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=FqsMXdKZIoLktQXAzoOQBQ&q=holacracy+failure" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=FqsMXdKZIoLktQXAzoOQBQ&q=holacracy+failure</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><img id="gmail-m_-874120559462793633B7AE907C-0D47-4F25-8AEB-20E65A69150C" src="cid:16b7a3ef956a3dbf22f1"></div><div><br></div><div><br><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jun 21, 2019, at 3:53 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="gmail-m_-874120559462793633Apple-interchange-newline"><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Dear Jake and you others,</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">I am intriguing myself with your quest for pitfalls in regard to "implement self-organization".</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">If it is assumed that "self-organization" is inherent in all groups, organisations, systems and in all processes on this planet and in the universe and has been since the Big Bang, it would not be necessary to "implement self-organization".</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">In fact, attempting to "implement self-organization" could in itself be the pitfall. This would jive with the notion that a sure fire way to impede self-organization is to mess with it (that is, control it).</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Picking up on what Rob just wrote</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">"By definition self organisation occurs despite any efforts to make it happen."</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">I suspect that</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">"Self-organisation is hampered by efforts to make it happen."</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">I also wonder if it would be helpful to distinguish between "self-organization" as we observe it everywhere around us (such as children self-organizing their game on a playground or a butterfly unfolding from a chrysalis or a break-out group in an os-event self-organizing their activities) and the "force of selforganization".</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Assuming  that the force of selforganzation is behind self-organization it might be useful to focus on the "factors" that would support an environment in which the force of selforganization can thrive, unfold...</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">One of the stories we have is the development of OST itself. OST was dreamt up originally as a way to organize a conference in a few hours instead of a whole years work (a wonderful gift that was borne out of being bored with working hard). After it kept working in various settings with a vast minimum of pre-implemented structure, no panels, no speakers, only one facilitator... his originator began wondering on why it was working.</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">We know the rest of the story and have payed attention to the 5 or 6 or 7 prerequisites that now have been tested in thousands of events which need to be in place for the "force of selforganisation" to do its thing which we then perceive as "self-organization".</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Its simple but not easy.</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Is not facing that which seduces to twists, adulterations, creating surrogate cocktails...?</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Greetings from Berlin</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">mmp</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Am 21.06.2019 um 04:04 schrieb Juliane Martina Roell (Structure & Process) via OSList:</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">Jake Yeager via OSList schrieb am 20.06.19 um 19:31:<br><blockquote type="cite">Hey everyone,<br><br>Does anyone know of organizations that attempted to implement self-organization but failed? If so, do you know some of the factors that contributed to the failure? We hear about the successes, like Semco and AES, but rarely about the failures. I'd like to understand better what the pitfalls are and also what the success rate is.<br></blockquote>Hi Jake,<br>what do you mean by "implement self-organization"?<br>How would one go about doing that?<br>Best Regards,<br>Juliane.<br></blockquote><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">--<span class="gmail-m_-874120559462793633Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Michael M Pannwitz</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">++49 - 30-772 8000</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><a href="mailto:mmpannwitz@gmail.com" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">mmpannwitz@gmail.com</a><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 484 resident Open Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 141 countries worldwide</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><a href="http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">www.openspaceworldmap.org</a><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;te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