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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Well said!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Harrison<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Barry Owen via OSList<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 9, 2019 7:41 AM<br><b>To:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><b>Cc:</b> Barry Owen<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] open message to Nick Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Harold - What you wrote is great. Thank you!<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bhavish, I could copy and paste your comments @ Massacre of Open Space and send them to a group that does an annual event here in Nashville.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This event began with me doing an Open Space event. I invited REALTORS to come together to talk about issues and opportunities we were facing as a direct result of the Economic Downward Spiral in 2008 which was devastating for many. Because this topic also affected all of the "Service Support" people we rely on during transactions (Lenders, Title Companies, Contractors, Inspectors, & etc), I invited them to come as sponsors. 24 of these sponsors paid $150 each for a table to display information about their business. This money paid all of the overhead, so the event was free for the REALTORS. I arranged these tables in a concentric circle around the Main Circle and invited the sponsors to attend as participants. This was an Open Space meeting about a very important issue with people from every conceivable Real Estate related business - 300 REALTORS attended, and the event was a huge success.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The following year, I was queueing up a "2nd Annual" event when I was approached by a group of people who had the backing of the REALTOR Association. Based on the success of the event I facilitated, they decided to do it using BarCamp - NashvilleREBarcamp and scheduled their event to conflict with mine. They asked me join forces with them rather than having 2 different events. With reservation, I agreed, and the event was also a huge success (Although not Open Space) - 500 Participants - More "Traditional" arrangement for sponsors who paid more money to sponsor breakout spaces and were not, under any circumstances, allowed to do any promotion beyond their name on the breakout space.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Over the past 10 years, that event has grown and morphed into what you describe . . . and even worse. The 10th Annual was a couple months ago - Over 700 REALTORS registered . . . There were @ 30 "Experts" who flew in from all over the country to "teach" sessions. There were @ 35 sessions (I did one about "Operating a Brokerage in Open Space"). All of the sessions were scheduled before the doors opened. I was disappointed because I thought it could have been way better in Open Space Technology, but . . . <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I decided it was better than nothing :-) As I went through the day, I noticed that, even though OST wasn't the process for the meeting . . . Open Space happened for many of the participants.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>My general observation is that Open Space happens at some level every time any group gathers . . . Having the meeting using OST simply increases the impact for more of the participants. So . . . <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Harrison Owen's mantra of "Just Open more Space" is happening every day as each of us is out there engaging important and complex issues and opportunities . . . even when it doesn't look like OST.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:58 PM Harold Shinsato via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Very interesting conversation and attempts to describe OST!<br><br>I'm reading Nassim Nicholas Taleb's book, Anti-Fragile. It seems to me Open Space is antifragile.<br><br>The idea of antifragility goes beyond resilience. Life in general is antifragile. It doesn't just bounce back from set-backs. It actually gets stronger as it overcomes challenges and stress.<br><br>Antifragility seems relevant in this conversation as it seems the more people try to document or describe Open Space, even with rather challenging inaccuracies, the stronger it gets. I like Liberating Structures. The 'min-specs' for OST seem accurate in the book and the website, even if it leaves out how much more powerful it gets in the "long form" (or at least more than 90 minutes). And it leaves out the need to get strong authorization from leaders. I love that it says it's not open space without the law of two feet. But the Liberating Structures 'min-specs' don't emphasize the importance of not generating topics ahead of time. I've unfortunately encountered rather large events claiming to be 'open space' where the participants either generated the topics in advance, or worse, didn't even get to generate the topics.<br><br>The "Open Space" with-a-twist as described on <a href="https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology" target="_blank">https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology</a> shows a nice picture and I hope it introduces more folks to Open Space Technology. For me at least, doing the agenda creation before the OST is an unconference trick, but it hugely diminishes the potential power of OST.<br><br>For what it is worth - Harrison Owen may not have claimed any ownership rights of Open Space, but what he did do is ask us to share back what we learn as we practice Open Space. That should start by honoring and sharing our sources.<br><br>Another way to reference back is a project the Open Space Institute U.S. did a several years ago with Harrison Owen's help. "Open Space Technology: The Reference Definition" which is Creative Commons Share and Adapt (cc by-sa) licensed. So feel free to reference it as you share-and-extend. Twisty or Straight!<br><br><a href="http://osius.org/ost-reference-definition" target="_blank">http://osius.org/ost-reference-definition</a><br><br> Regards,<br> Harold<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 6/5/19 8:10 AM, Robin Muretisch, Facilitative Insights, LLC via OSList wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>For everyone, the Liberating Structures site has a handy “min specs” description of OST. Here’s the link: <a href="http://www.liberatingstructures.com/25-open-space-technology/" target="_blank">http://www.liberatingstructures.com/25-open-space-technology/</a>.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:Papyrus'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:Papyrus'>Robin</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:Papyrus'><br>Robin D. H. Muretisch</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Papyrus'>, CPF, MBA, CPA</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:Papyrus'>IAF Certified™ Professional Facilitator</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><u><span style='font-family:Papyrus;color:#0563C1'><a href="mailto:robin@facinsights.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#0563C1'>robin@facinsights.com</span></a></span></u><span style='font-family:Papyrus'> | 770.371.5874 | </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/robin-muretisch/" target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=19 height=19 id="gmail-m_-8642193814332368536Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D51EEB.EDF60990" alt="cid:image001.jpg@01D48E49.D9A1E690"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://www.facinsights.com/" target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=162 height=82 id="gmail-m_-8642193814332368536Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image002.jpg@01D51EEB.EDF60990" alt="cid:image004.jpg@01D48E4F.B1F26380"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b> OSList <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank"><oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nick Martin via OSList<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 05, 2019 2:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> Marai Kiele <a href="mailto:genuine-contact@joyful-together.com" target="_blank"><genuine-contact@joyful-together.com></a>; ost list international <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank"><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org></a><br><b>Cc:</b> Nick Martin <a href="mailto:nick@workshopbank.com" target="_blank"><nick@workshopbank.com></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] open message to Nick Martin<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Thanks for your open letter Marai. I'm always excited and willing to receive feedback.<br><br>As you'll remember over a year ago I opened up the content of this article for comments and input from this list in the form of a Google Doc. <br><br>Such was the passion exhibited in the original thread I was eager and excited to receive your inputs. Unfortunately only two people replied though. I'm very grateful to both you and Keith Blundell for taking the time.<br><br>I must admit life took over and in my wait for more input other priorities took over. I'm happy to revisit it now though as I can feel the energy is back and I'd like to the right thing in the eyes of this excellent community.<br><br>Here's the link - <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ufIsy0BQvIqlRUbW0FAyXHGV0IKw3VdDT8L91RIJJU8/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ufIsy0BQvIqlRUbW0FAyXHGV0IKw3VdDT8L91RIJJU8/edit?usp=sharing</a><br><br>Please add your thoughts, comments and feedback and amend the article as best I can.<br> <o:p></o:p></p><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=3 cellpadding=0 style='max-width:6.25in'><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div style='margin-bottom:6.0pt;display:inline-flex'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr style='height:61.5pt'><td width=103 valign=top style='width:61.5pt;padding:0in 9.0pt 0in 0in;height:61.5pt'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal 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target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 id="gmail-m_-8642193814332368536_x005f_x0000_i1028" src="https://dn3tzca2xtljm.cloudfront.net/social_icons/16px/twitter.png"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:4.5pt 0in 0in 0in'></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On 05/06/2019 01:53, Marai Kiele wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hello Nick Martin, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I find 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WorkshopBank tool</span></a><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#0A0A0A'> you can start using with your clients right away. Let me know what you think.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>You suggest that the reader lets you know what they think. I choose to do that.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I also choose to do that in the form of an open letter, as several months back you asked on the os-list for input to your description of the OST process for the Workshopbank.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>You introduced your version of „OST with a twist“, and there was a somewhat heated discussion on this list about it.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I participated in both, revising and giving you feedback on your description (as requested) and discussing about „is something with such a twist still OST?“<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536apple-tab-span> </span>Your twist was about giving the leaders control about the topics. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Back then I used the analogy that you are mixing red wine with coca cola (which some people actually do and drink — I tried it out as a teenager).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>And that calling such a beverage „red wine with a twist“ is an inaccurate representation of a) red wine and b) the taste that a consumer will experience.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>(side note: usually, this mix is done with red wine of poor quality)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536apple-tab-span> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536apple-tab-span> </span>In my analogy, OST is the red wine and controlling the process is the coke.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>In your description, you early on distinguish between OST and OST with a twist. I first appreciated you for making that distinction so upfront. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Then I read what you wrote under:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>If you’re following the traditional Open Space Process...</b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo1'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-numbered-list-index>1</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul></div><p class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536thrv-styled-list-item style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-no-delete>Gather your participants together and briefly explain how Open Space events work using Harrison Owen’s 1 Law and the Guiding Principles as appropriate. Traditionally you should do this with everyone in a circle around you<span style='color:#FF91FF'> but you don’t necessarily have to.</span><span style='color:#8EFFFF'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-numbered-list-index>2</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul></div><p class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536thrv-styled-list-item style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-no-delete><span style='color:#FF91FF'>Ask participants to spend 10 minutes thinking through </span>if they have any issues they’d like to raise.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo3'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-numbered-list-index>3</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul></div><p class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536thrv-styled-list-item style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-no-delete><span style='color:#FF91FF'>If there is a general agreement that the issue has enough support and passion behind it invite the issue owner to add the issue to the schedule.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l9 level1 lfo4'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-numbered-list-index>4</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul></div><p class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536thrv-styled-list-item style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-no-delete>Once all issues have been added invite the participants to sign-up for the sessions they’re planning on attending (they are free to change their mind later if they want to).</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo5'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-numbered-list-index>5</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul></div><p class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536thrv-styled-list-item style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-no-delete>Your sessions start.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>There is much more on this page that, as I see it, is NOT "the traditional Open Space Process“. I am giving just some further examples:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology" target="_blank">https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><h2>Process for a Session<o:p></o:p></h2></div><div><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-numbered-list-index>1</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul></div><p class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536thrv-styled-list-item style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-no-delete>Each session should be a round group of chairs (no table in the middle) <span style='color:#FF91FF'>with preferably one facilitator to lead the discussion and a scribe on the flip-chart.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo7'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-numbered-list-index>2</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul></div><p class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536thrv-styled-list-item style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-no-delete>A session starts with the issue owner welcoming and thanking the group for coming and then giving a description of the issue as they see it.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo8'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-numbered-list-index>3</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul></div><p class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536thrv-styled-list-item style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-no-delete><span style='color:#FF91FF'>The facilitator then leads the discussion</span> inviting people to give their input at their request.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo9'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-numbered-list-index>4</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul></div><p class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536thrv-styled-list-item style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-no-delete><span style='color:#FF91FF'>The scribe records the discussion on flip chart paper making sure</span> to mark Issues, Ideas, Questions (that can’t be answered today) & Actions. <span style='color:#FF91FF'>When a flip is finished they should tear it off</span> and put it in the center of the circle or on a nearby wall for people in the group to see.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l10 level1 lfo10'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-numbered-list-index>5</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul></div><p class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536thrv-styled-list-item style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-no-delete>Allow people to leave and arrive as they see fit though <span style='color:#FF91FF'>don’t allow them to interrupt or slow-down your progress.</span> It is a new arrival’s responsibility to catch-up with the discussion using the flip chart outputs no matter how high up or important they are.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo11'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-numbered-list-index>6</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul></div><p class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536thrv-styled-list-item style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536tcb-no-delete><span style='color:#FF91FF'>When the issue looks like it has been covered and there are no more inputs coming from your group thank them for their time and invite them to join other groups if the session time is not over.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>To me, calling this description "the traditional Open Space Process“ I wonder if<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536apple-tab-span> </span>- I am totally rigid and should just loosen up to the variations of OST<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536apple-tab-span> </span>- You have never experienced a traditional Open Space Process<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536apple-tab-span> </span>- You just don’t care about the originality and instead rather cater to business needs of controlled processes that limit self-organisation<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536apple-tab-span> </span>- I misremember all my trainings with Harrison Owen, Michael M Pannwitz, Michael Pannwitz jr, Joe Töpfer, and last but not least Birgitt Williams. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=gmail-m-8642193814332368536apple-tab-span> </span>- or… ?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I totally don’t get it. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I don’t like what you are doing.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I also dislike that you market this description of „the traditional Open Space Process“ as „a popular WorkshopBank Tool“.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I feel sad when I imagine people following your description and spreading the word that „this is the traditional way of doing OST“.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Using my former analogy: <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I imagine what you are doing is like a beverage shop introducing someone who has never tasted a good red wine to that beverage.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Because this person usually drink coke, they are being given red wine mixed with coke (to match their taste buds).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>And then they are being told, „this is a traditional Cabernet Sauvignon“.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I want you to revise your description and move your adaptions away from "the original version" to „OST with a twist“.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Are you willing to do that?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Probably even better: Call it „…………….. - a process partly inspired by Open Space Technology“ <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I look forward to your response,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Marai<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p 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