<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I went to a Liberating Structures Immersion workshop last year led by two of it's "leading practitioners" and they introduced OST to a group of 50 who I think did not know OST. They massacred it, I then sent the feedback which I have copied below and it led to a very interesting discussion, especially around how much you can "mess" with any approach and at what point have you messed so much that you have left the "fundamentals/principles" and it is not longer that approach, and is that innovation, evolution, or simply something else, etc............<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><b>My feedback to them:</b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><i>"And one critical piece of feedback if that's ok. You really massacred Open Space Technology, what you did was quite the opposite of OST. I would suggest calling it Options Space powered by OST principles.</i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><br></span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><br></span></i></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">The point of OST is for a person to be free to take responsibility for their passion by naming it and then announcing it to the whole group. It happens in real-time which is also very important as it acts like an individual and collective sense-making exercise.</span></i></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><ul><li><i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">What you did was have a bunch of pre-defined topics on the floor with no names on them and then invited the group to add more, even though we couldn't see what was on the floor.<br></span></i></li><li><i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Of course the group will not add because there are already well defined ‘facilitators-in-power’ topics and they are not going to add to them. OST also doesn't mix well with other methods unless you really know what you are doing. Another key aspect is the facilitator being present and invisible, and you were very much in control.<br></span></i></li><li><i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">The topics eventually got stuck up onto the wall without the energy of the ‘posting topics' part of OST.</span></i></li><li><i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">The wall could have had the extra clarity of the timing of each session and also simple breakout space signs. This supports the self-organisation of participants. Open space can feel quite complex and increase a participant's cognitive load around topics and choosing, and so it is good to reduce cognitive load around logistics to increase bandwidth for the content and process.<span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><span></span></span></i></li><li><i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">There is no moment in OST where a topic/session convenor is asking whether someone will come to their topic.</span></i></li><li><i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">There is no attempt to reduce topics based on who might come. <br></span></i></li><li><i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">There is no checking by the facilitator in a very pro-active way of whether there are more topics by going around the room and eye-balling everyone.<br></span></i></li><li><i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">The self-organising magic of OST comes from not doing all of these things and increasing the space of serendipity. <br></span></i></li><li><i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">It felt like a very facilitator controlled agenda, which is the total opposite of OST.<span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><span></span></span></i></li><li><i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">You definitely NEVER tell anyone to use a specific methodology for their session.<span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><span></span></span></i></li><li><i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">There is NO time-keeping in OST, especially 05min warnings, etc. You can notice time on the hour if you want like Big Ben does, but that is observation, not direction.<br></span></i></li></ul><div><i>Anyway I am sure you know all this, and maybe I am being a bit of a method purist, but you really did massacre OST!"</i></div><div><i><br></i></div><div><i><br></i></div><div><i><br></i></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 at 23:58, Harold Shinsato via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Very interesting conversation and attempts to describe OST!<br>
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I'm reading Nassim Nicholas Taleb's book, Anti-Fragile. It seems to
me Open Space is antifragile.<br>
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The idea of antifragility goes beyond resilience. Life in general is
antifragile. It doesn't just bounce back from set-backs. It actually
gets stronger as it overcomes challenges and stress.<br>
<br>
Antifragility seems relevant in this conversation as it seems the
more people try to document or describe Open Space, even with rather
challenging inaccuracies, the stronger it gets. I like Liberating
Structures. The 'min-specs' for OST seem accurate in the book and
the website, even if it leaves out how much more powerful it gets in
the "long form" (or at least more than 90 minutes). And it leaves
out the need to get strong authorization from leaders. I love that
it says it's not open space without the law of two feet. But the
Liberating Structures 'min-specs' don't emphasize the importance of
not generating topics ahead of time. I've unfortunately encountered
rather large events claiming to be 'open space' where the
participants either generated the topics in advance, or worse,
didn't even get to generate the topics.<br>
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The "Open Space" with-a-twist as described on
<a class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology" target="_blank">https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology</a> shows a nice picture
and I hope it introduces more folks to Open Space Technology. For me
at least, doing the agenda creation before the OST is an
unconference trick, but it hugely diminishes the potential power of
OST.<br>
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For what it is worth - Harrison Owen may not have claimed any
ownership rights of Open Space, but what he did do is ask us to
share back what we learn as we practice Open Space. That should
start by honoring and sharing our sources.<br>
<br>
Another way to reference back is a project the Open Space Institute
U.S. did a several years ago with Harrison Owen's help. "Open Space
Technology: The Reference Definition" which is Creative Commons
Share and Adapt (cc by-sa) licensed. So feel free to reference it as
you share-and-extend. Twisty or Straight!<br>
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<a href="http://osius.org/ost-reference-definition" target="_blank">http://osius.org/ost-reference-definition</a><br>
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Regards,<br>
Harold<br>
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<div class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220moz-cite-prefix">On 6/5/19 8:10 AM, Robin Muretisch,
Facilitative Insights, LLC via OSList wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>For everyone, the Liberating Structures
site has a handy “min specs” description of OST. Here’s the
link:
</span><a href="http://www.liberatingstructures.com/25-open-space-technology/" target="_blank">http://www.liberatingstructures.com/25-open-space-technology/</a>.<span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nick Martin via OSList<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 05, 2019 2:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Marai Kiele
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] open message to Nick Martin<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Thanks for
your open letter Marai. I'm always excited and willing to
receive feedback.<br>
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As you'll remember over a year ago I opened up the content of
this article for comments and input from this list in the form
of a Google Doc.
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Such was the passion exhibited in the original thread I was
eager and excited to receive your inputs. Unfortunately only
two people replied though. I'm very grateful to both you and
Keith Blundell for taking the time.<br>
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I must admit life took over and in my wait for more input
other priorities took over. I'm happy to revisit it now though
as I can feel the energy is back and I'd like to the right
thing in the eyes of this excellent community.<br>
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Here's the link - <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ufIsy0BQvIqlRUbW0FAyXHGV0IKw3VdDT8L91RIJJU8/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ufIsy0BQvIqlRUbW0FAyXHGV0IKw3VdDT8L91RIJJU8/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
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Please add your thoughts, comments and feedback and amend the
article as best I can.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 05/06/2019 01:53, Marai Kiele wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You suggest that the reader lets you
know what they think. I choose to do that.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I also choose to do that in the form of
an open letter, as several months back you asked on the
os-list for input to your description of the OST process
for the Workshopbank.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You introduced your version of „OST
with a twist“, and there was a somewhat heated discussion
on this list about it.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I participated in both, revising and
giving you feedback on your description (as requested) and
discussing about „is something with such a twist still
OST?“<u></u><u></u></p>
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are mixing red wine with coca cola (which some people
actually do and drink — I tried it out as a teenager).<u></u><u></u></p>
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wine with a twist“ is an inaccurate representation of a)
red wine and b) the taste that a consumer will experience.<u></u><u></u></p>
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with red wine of poor quality)<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span>In my analogy, OST is the red wine and controlling
the process is the coke.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In your description, you early on
distinguish between OST and OST with a twist. I first
appreciated you for making that distinction so upfront. <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Then I read what you wrote under:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>If
you’re following the traditional Open Space Process...</b><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-numbered-list-index">1</span><u></u><u></u></li>
</ul>
</div>
<p class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete">Gather your participants
together and briefly explain how Open Space events
work using Harrison Owen’s 1 Law and the Guiding
Principles as appropriate. Traditionally you should do
this with everyone in a circle around you</span><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete"><span style="color:rgb(255,145,255)"> but
you don’t necessarily have to.</span></span><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete"><span style="color:rgb(142,255,255)"> </span></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-numbered-list-index">2</span><u></u><u></u></li>
</ul>
</div>
<p class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete"><span style="color:rgb(255,145,255)">Ask
participants to spend 10 minutes thinking through
</span></span><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete">if they have
any issues they’d like to raise.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-numbered-list-index">3</span><u></u><u></u></li>
</ul>
</div>
<p class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete"><span style="color:rgb(255,145,255)">If
there is a general agreement that the issue has
enough support and passion behind it invite the
issue owner to add the issue to the schedule.</span></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-numbered-list-index">4</span><u></u><u></u></li>
</ul>
</div>
<p class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete">Once all issues have been added
invite the participants to sign-up for the sessions
they’re planning on attending (they are free to change
their mind later if they want to).</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-numbered-list-index">5</span><u></u><u></u></li>
</ul>
</div>
<p class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete">Your sessions start.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">There is much more on this page
that, as I see it, is NOT "the traditional Open Space
Process“. I am giving just some further examples:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology" target="_blank">https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology</a><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<h2>Process for a Session<u></u><u></u></h2>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-numbered-list-index">1</span><u></u><u></u></li>
</ul>
</div>
<p class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete">Each
session should be a round group of chairs (no table
in the middle)
</span><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete"><span style="color:rgb(255,145,255)">with preferably one
facilitator to lead the discussion and a scribe on
the flip-chart.</span></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-numbered-list-index">2</span><u></u><u></u></li>
</ul>
</div>
<p class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete">A
session starts with the issue owner welcoming and
thanking the group for coming and then giving a
description of the issue as they see it.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-numbered-list-index">3</span><u></u><u></u></li>
</ul>
</div>
<p class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete"><span style="color:rgb(255,145,255)">The facilitator then leads
the discussion</span></span><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete"> inviting people to give their
input at their request.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-numbered-list-index">4</span><u></u><u></u></li>
</ul>
</div>
<p class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete"><span style="color:rgb(255,145,255)">The scribe records the
discussion on flip chart paper making sure</span></span><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete"> to mark Issues, Ideas,
Questions (that can’t be answered today) &
Actions. </span><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete"><span style="color:rgb(255,145,255)">When a flip is finished they
should tear it off</span></span><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete"> and put it in the center of
the circle or on a nearby wall for people in the
group to see.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-numbered-list-index">5</span><u></u><u></u></li>
</ul>
</div>
<p class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete">Allow
people to leave and arrive as they see fit though
</span><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete"><span style="color:rgb(255,145,255)">don’t allow them to
interrupt or slow-down your progress.</span></span><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete"> It is a new arrival’s
responsibility to catch-up with the discussion using
the flip chart outputs no matter how high up or
important they are.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-numbered-list-index">6</span><u></u><u></u></li>
</ul>
</div>
<p class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220thrv-styled-list-item" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220tcb-no-delete"><span style="color:rgb(255,145,255)">When the issue looks like it
has been covered and there are no more inputs
coming from your group thank them for their time
and invite them to join other groups if the
session time is not over.</span></span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">To me, calling this description "the
traditional Open Space Process“ I wonder if<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220apple-tab-span">
</span>- I am totally rigid and should just loosen up to
the variations of OST<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220apple-tab-span">
</span>- You have never experienced a traditional Open
Space Process<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220apple-tab-span">
</span>- You just don’t care about the originality and
instead rather cater to business needs of controlled
processes that limit self-organisation<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220apple-tab-span">
</span>- I misremember all my trainings with Harrison
Owen, Michael M Pannwitz, Michael Pannwitz jr, Joe Töpfer,
and last but not least Birgitt Williams. <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_544204321555539884gmail-m_8762433539293316220apple-tab-span">
</span>- or… ?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I totally don’t get it. <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I don’t like what you are doing.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I also dislike that you market this
description of „the traditional Open Space Process“ as „a
popular WorkshopBank Tool“.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I feel sad when I imagine people
following your description and spreading the word that
„this is the traditional way of doing OST“.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Using my former analogy: <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I imagine what you are doing is like a
beverage shop introducing someone who has never tasted a
good red wine to that beverage.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Because this person usually drink coke,
they are being given red wine mixed with coke (to match
their taste buds).<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">And then they are being told, „this is
a traditional Cabernet Sauvignon“.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I want you to revise your description
and move your adaptions away from "the original version"
to „OST with a twist“.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Are you willing to do that?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Probably even better: Call it
„…………….. - a process partly inspired by Open Space
Technology“ <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I look forward to your response,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Marai<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/marai-kiele/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/marai-kiele/</a><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://about.me/maraikiele" target="_blank">https://about.me/maraikiele</a><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
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