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<div>Thanks everyone! It is good to at least see these "rules of thumb" to have a place to start the estimation. And certainly there is always more space when people want it!</div><div><br></div><div>Lori</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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Le jeudi 6 juin 2019 09 h 23 min 07 s UTC−4, Thomas Herrmann via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> a écrit :
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<div><div dir="ltr">I usually have the main room with the circle as an extra space if more groups than I have prepared for will happen. I give the prepared breakout spaces each a number starting the furthest away so the logic stays, even if more breakout spaces are created.<br clear="none">Says<br clear="none">Thomas Herrmann<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----<br clear="none">Från: OSList <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> För Dr. Christian Kemper via OSList<br clear="none">Skickat: den 6 juni 2019 12:03<br clear="none">Till: World wide Open Space Technology email list <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br clear="none">Kopia: Dr. Christian Kemper <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kemper.christian@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kemper.christian@gmail.com</a>>; Michael M Pannwitz <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:mmpannwitz@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mmpannwitz@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none">Ämne: Re: [OSList] number of breakout groups<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Am 06.06.19 um 01:10 schrieb Michael M Pannwitz via OSList:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> I wonder what additional parameters other than than number of <br clear="none">> participants and length of the event would have to be considered for a <br clear="none">> more reliable tool to predict the number of issues to be expected at <br clear="none">> an OST event.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Hihi, Michael:-)<br clear="none"><br clear="none">As far as I experienced there is no rule or reliable answer to this question - it depends on so many factors (e.g. how urgent is the os, how complex the question, how unknown the answer, how conflictual the problem, how diverse the group and so on).<br clear="none"><br clear="none">But one thing I was able to see so often is that the younger the people are the more issues they raise. In open spaces with children there are sometimes as many issues as people participate, the maximum I saw was<br clear="none">1.3 issues per person (in a 1.5 day os with around 100 people).<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I also remember one girl who raised eleven issues in a three-day open space with six starting times.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">And i remember the boy, who negotiated his issue in the same open space over the whole time, again and again and supplemented and expanded it and finally probably negotiated with all 250 people right up to the action planning. It was: "Cocoa instead of milk in the breaks". At the next meeting he reported and justified with a broad chest and proudly that it was not implemented after he had gone through all school instances (and democracy learned from it).<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sunny greetings to all of you!<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Christian<br clear="none"><br clear="none">-- <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Dr. Christian Kemper | inbetweener | Prinz-Albert-Strasse 73 | D-53113 Bonn | M. +49 . 174 . 921 66 11 | T. +49 . 228 . 24 36 70 00 | <a shape="rect" href="mailto:ck@inbetweener.eu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ck@inbetweener.eu</a> | www.inbetweener.eu<br clear="none"><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Greetings from Berlin<br clear="none">> mmp<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Am 05.06.2019 um 17:37 schrieb Harrison Owen via OSList:<br clear="none">>> And then there was the time when Michael Pannwitz and I had 2108 <br clear="none">>> participants… And I think we ended up with 175 Groups. We grossly <br clear="none">>> under-estimated (75) – but fortunately you can add groups as many as <br clear="none">>> you need. The People are always right, and they will claim the space <br clear="none">>> they need. Facilitators are only guessing – and then just get out of <br clear="none">>> the way J<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Harrison<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> *From:*OSList [mailto:<a shape="rect" href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] *On <br clear="none">>> Behalf Of *Lori Palano via OSList<br clear="none">>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:51 AM<br clear="none">>> *To:* <a shape="rect" href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br clear="none">>> *Cc:* Lori Palano<br clear="none">>> *Subject:* [OSList] number of breakout groups<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Hello all<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> A number of years ago I seem to remember a resource shared on this <br clear="none">>> list that calculated an average number of breakout groups that tended <br clear="none">>> to show up according to the total number of participants based on the <br clear="none">>> cumulated experience of this community. Does this ring a bell with <br clear="none">>> anyone? I think it was an excel sheet. I'd like to find it again, but <br clear="none">>> so far my searching hasn't lead to anything.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Here's hoping!<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Lori<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> _______________________________________________<br clear="none">>> OSList mailing list<br clear="none">>> To post send emails to <a shape="rect" href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br clear="none">>> To unsubscribe send an email to <a shape="rect" href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br clear="none">>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br clear="none">>> <a shape="rect" href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><br clear="none">>> Past archives can be viewed here: <br clear="none">>> <a shape="rect" href="http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br clear="none">>><br clear="none">><br clear="none">-- <br clear="none">Dr. Christian Kemper | inbetweener | Prinz-Albert-Straße 73 | D-53113 <div class="ydp54d4f6bayqt8668789047" id="ydp54d4f6bayqtfd42597"><br clear="none">Bonn | M. +49 . 174 . 921 66 11 | T. +49 . 228 . 24 36 70 00 | <br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:ck@inbetweener.eu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ck@inbetweener.eu</a> | www.inbetweener.eu<br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">OSList mailing list<br clear="none">To post send emails to <a shape="rect" href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br clear="none">To unsubscribe send an email to <a shape="rect" href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br clear="none">To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><br clear="none">Past archives can be viewed here: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">OSList mailing list<br clear="none">To post send emails to <a shape="rect" href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br clear="none">To unsubscribe send an email to <a shape="rect" href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br clear="none">To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><br clear="none">Past archives can be viewed here: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a></div></div></div>
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