<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Thanks, Rob How true. And not only in the government sector, but in every part of society, from family to institutions,, communities, religious and social groups, business.... It takes a strong and determined community to make the kind of culture shift we're talking about. And amazing changes come about from the smallest spark and most surprising places! What keeps us opening more and more space😏</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Gail</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 8:05 AM, R Chaffe via OSList <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.<wbr>org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Thanks Gail, <div>It seems that even with your extensive experience and very productive meetings that OS is not easily adopted at higher levels of Government.<br><br><div id="m_-8662357244739143817m_-5386227930894630197AppleMailSignature">Regards<div>Rob</div></div><div><br>On 13 Sep 2018, at 4:08 pm, Gail West via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.or<wbr>g</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Shufang Tsai</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fang@frontier.org.tw" target="_blank">fang@frontier.org.tw</a>></span><br><br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I want to share some of my experience in facilitating open participation in Taiwan</span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">.</span><br></font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif">-------<br></font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif">Last night we invite a friend from the government to share her experience about “<i>Join-Public policy network participation platform”.</i></font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">To l</span>et NPOs know how it operate and how will the gov response. (It's an event of our Nettuesday.)<br></font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif"><br></font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif">I would say vTaiwan demonstrated how <span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">a </span>virtual platform can support and facilitate croudsourcing. <br></font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif">People are expecting for way to convene and contribute.</font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif"><br></font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif">I was involved in one petition from <span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">"</span>Join<span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">"</span>, watching how government start to contact with the convener after 5000 people vote. <br></font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif">(The rule said gov. need to connect with the convener, and publish the result in the plateform.)</font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif"><br></font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif">I was invited to facilitate an ost for people who care about the issues, before they go to meet with the gov.</font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif">Because they want to connect with each other, and they want gov to know people care.<br></font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif"><br></font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif">In this case, it's a new issue never been dealed before.</font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif">The response from the gov is positive, they invite experts, convener , other stakeholder to meet and discuss.</font></div><div style="font-size:small"></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif"><br></font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif">Our society has lots passion after Sunflower movement, <br></font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif">many opensource people get involved in vTaiwan at that time.</font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif">It's not so active now.</font></div><div style="font-size:small">
<div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">"</span>Join <span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">"</span> is a new way to ask the gov to step in. to reply to people's inqury.</font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif">Not much conversation like the article mentioned in vTaiwan before.</font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif"><br></font></div>
</div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif">Yet those are new experience still under going.</font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif">We are all learning how to be part of the chaging world.</font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif"><br></font></div><div style="font-size:small"></div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="times new roman, serif">shufang</font><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:59 AM Gail West <a href="mailto:icataiw@gmail.com" target="_blank">icataiw@gmail.com</a> [OpenSpaceTechnologyTaiwan] <<a href="mailto:OpenSpaceTechnologyTaiwan@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">OpenSpaceTechnologyTaiwan@yah<wbr>oogroups.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p></p><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Can someone provide some further comments in response to this from Michael? There seems to be an increasing interest in what's happening here from many different sources? Good to share. Gail</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Michael Herman via OSList</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech..o<wbr>rg</a>></span><br>Date: Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 10:25 PM<br>Subject: [OSList] online open space-ish government?<br>To: OSLIST <<a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">OSList@lists.openspacetech.or<wbr>g</a>><br>Cc: Michael Herman <<a href="mailto:michael@michaelherman.com" target="_blank">michael@michaelherman.com</a>><br><br><br><div dir="ltr">this maybe interesting and encouraging. maybe our friends in taiwan will be able to say more about it? <div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/s/611816/the-simple-but-ingenious-system-taiwan-uses-to-crowdsource-its-laws/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">https://www.technologyreview.c<wbr>om/s/611816/the-simple-but-ing<wbr>enious-system-taiwan-uses-to-c<wbr>rowdsource-its-laws/</a></div><div><div><div class="m_-8662357244739143817m_-5386227930894630197m_-7448553036550604094m_3669932075901969821m_3510499740924402956m_1012474993489064714gmail_signature" data="https://ci6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/aya5v5NybogpBh1u-qsi36skYYgRapm463_SNN10-unYwK3bkDHKF5m_dH4=s0-d-e1-ft#http://gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--<br><br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates</div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">312-280-7838 (mobile)</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><a href="http://MichaelHerman.com" target="_blank">http://MichaelHerman.com</a><br><a href="http://OpenSpaceWorld.org" target="_blank">http://OpenSpaceWorld.org</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="m_-8662357244739143817m_-5386227930894630197m_-7448553036550604094m_3669932075901969821m_3510499740924402956gmail_signature" data="https://ci6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/aya5v5NybogpBh1u-qsi36skYYgRapm463_SNN10-unYwK3bkDHKF5m_dH4=s0-d-e1-ft#http://gmail_signature"><i>Gail West, ICA</i><br><i>3F, <a href="https://maps.google.com/?q=No.+12,+Lane+5&entry=gmail&source=g" target="_blank">No. 12, Lane 5</a>, Tien Mou W Rd<br>Taipei, Taiwan 111<br>Ph) 8862) 2871-3150</i><br>email) <a href="mailto:icataiw@gmail.com" target="_blank">icataiw@gmail.com</a><br>Skype) gwestica<br><a href="http://www.icatw.com" target="_blank">www.icatw.com</a></div>
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