<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I’ve been really enjoying this conversation. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have indeed been part of conflict resolutions where there was constrained space to move. Mediation on a job and litigation as well as restorative practice (conflict resolution circles). I believe that working with constraints is a high art of leadership. And even in Open Space there are still constraints. I certainly just advocate for being honest about what those are. We can have governing constraints (like rules, i.e. the meeting will end at 5pm) and enablisgin constraints, like the principles and the law of two feet. But nothing ever happens without a container.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So given that, how we work with constraints and build a container matters. I have run Open Spaces where there were fewer degrees of freedom than others (of course participants could always call whatever conversation they wanted to, but the management of the organization got to define areas they could resource and act on).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The original question was about Dave Snowden’s criticism of how the law of two feet operates in spaces where conflict is important. This can mean any kind situation where a group of people needs to hear a contrary point of view in order to act wisely. In many places these days, folks just walk away from people who’s opinions they find odious. This kind of conflict avoidance creates massive division and “echo chamber’ behaviour. Even calling an open space meeting is a kind of narrowing of the constraints and degrees of freedom such that people need to encounter one another. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For innovation work, testing, criticizing and breaking new ideas is an invaluable part of the creative process. Working away on one’s own without dissenting points of view can create something that is vulnerable to the myriad blind spots that we operate from. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Conflict is not a bad thing. Working well with time and space as constraints helps us to collectively move through it. Sometimes that means opening up that time and space and sometimes it means narrowing it down. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I also miss Father Brian in these kinds of conversations. I suspect he’d say something like “it’s all good” and then give a little wink and a smile. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Chris<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 4, 2018, at 12:04 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Dear Colleagues,<div class="">I am interested in questions, and how people get wrapped up in answering a question, without first giving some discernment to whether or not it is the right question. Oh...I miss Fr. Brian Bainbridge when I get to thinking like this....he would have been a great one to have this conversation with. As I understand it, the question was stated as one to look at whether Open Space assisted in avoidance of conflict.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My question, the one that I believe is more to the heart of the matter is 'have you ever been part of successful movement with conflict resolution when the space wasn't open?'. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For any conflict, inter-personal, intra-personal, larger scale, conflict doesn't have successful movement if there is no space for the movement, no space for the re-framing.that is needed for healing. Conflict is not in short supply in this world. Let us use any processes that we can to be of service to our fellow humans to move beyond the stuck energies of conflict. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Blessings,</div><div class="">Birgitt</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 12:50 PM christopher macrae via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px" class=""><div class=""></div>
<div class="">3 comments which may sound contradictory and reveal my own need to action learn</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1 harrisons' books eg practice of peace explain that an intention of Open Space is to free people who are all trapped by the same conflict to move beyond it - creating more space than top-down rules or historiic cultural misunderstanding had previously allowed - this always seems to me to be what is happening provided the facilitator is experienced</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">2 however what happens when people are no longer together in the space; are actions and post conflict innovations unstoppable?; here what bothers me is that there is no complete database of success stories- or if there is please given us one bookmark; i mean something that is an updating index not just this listing - a "good food guide" review format to open space so to speak</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">3 i wonder if anyone has experienced deep democracy which i believe was innovated by myrna lewis in south africa- this starts with a somewhat different process purpose ; it aims to identify opposng sides and then get them to debate what with all their energy but no violence what is their absolute minimum demands in a proposed solution which will make them unite with the other sides</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">while 3 sounds a valid idea frankly it puts even more burden of the faciltator (or indeed the spirit of the space) and who actually sponsored the event - the very few deep democracies I have participated in did not have outcomes that i trusted even though I was there more as an observer than one of the interested partners</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">just my 3 cents worth ; ultimately the catch 22 seems to me to be that unless hehre is already enough community to be the sponsor , the after-the space motivations of the sponoir come back into play- so how 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