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1. Re: What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat?<br>
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2. Re: What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat?<br>
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From: Michael Herman via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.<wbr>org</a>><br>
To: Lucas Cioffi <<a href="mailto:lucas@qiqochat.com">lucas@qiqochat.com</a>>, World wide Open Space<br>
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very nice, lucas! though i think the beautiful pictures distract from the<br>
elegance of your framing work and maybe from meeting content, too. i added<br>
a small heap of user stories for you in the front porch notes.<br>
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On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:38 PM, Lucas Cioffi via OSList <<br>
<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><wbr>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi Birgitt, thank you for the useful questions. Using one's own story as<br>
> an invitation is a great idea, and there's a project that I can apply it<br>
> to. Also, the idea of a group of people taking turns "occupying" an online<br>
> space for hours/days that you mention is pretty awesome. Maybe there's an<br>
> application of this idea in the "online house prototype" mentioned below.<br>
><br>
> Brian Burt, I do look forward to seeing the upcoming innovations with<br>
> MaestroConference that you mention. It's already a ground-breaking<br>
> platform.<br>
><br>
> Michael Herman, I love the zoom in/out idea. Thanks for all the detailed<br>
> thinking and mentioning how online spaces are just another form of space.<br>
> When we ran the Video Open Space on Open Space last year, it was a<br>
> revelation to me that when everyone is on video, they are<br>
> connecting/sharing their own private spaces (ie kitchen tables).<br>
><br>
> Ben Roberts, I look forward to seeing your next innovation/experiment. I<br>
> especially liked participating in the online gift economy last year.<br>
><br>
> For whomever is interested, based on this OSList thread, I made some<br>
> changes this evening to QiqoChat video events. My goal is to create a more<br>
> minimalist version that could be used for OST. A Qiqo live event consists<br>
> of a breakout space with a notetaking space plus a button to connect<br>
> through Zoom video. Also, you can see how many people are in each of the<br>
> other spaces so you know when to use your two feet.<br>
><br>
> As Ben mentioned about tools in general, no tool is sufficient on its own;<br>
> skilled facilitation is the key ingredient in hosting a successful event.<br>
> Tonight's iteration is still rough, but it has a playful feel. I named the<br>
> spaces in this virtual house (kitchen, garden, sun room, pool, etc) and a<br>
> background photo for each.<br>
><br>
> *When people go to this demo online OST, they arrive on the "Front<br>
> Porch". A screenshot is attached.* That's where the opening circle<br>
> would happen and where the marketplace wall would be posted. Then<br>
> participants can go into all the other rooms for their breakouts.<br>
><br>
> *For the curious folks out there, *here's the link to test<br>
> <<a href="https://qiqochat.com/breakout/0/tddbQjxXRaQZEUDQoTCORGONq" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://qiqochat.com/<wbr>breakout/0/<wbr>tddbQjxXRaQZEUDQoTCORGONq</a>>. If you<br>
> don't have an account and you don't want to create an account, you can sign<br>
> in with "<a href="mailto:test@test.com">test@test.com</a>" and a password of "test".<br>
><br>
> *I must give credit to Suzanne Daigle for this idea of hosting inside a<br>
> house.* She mentioned this idea in her email post two days ago and for<br>
> over a year, she had been suggesting that I should create something that<br>
> feels like a house online. So tonight I said "What the heck?" and gave her<br>
> idea a try. This is a very neat idea, and I think it opens up a whole<br>
> bunch of possibilities for replicating physical spaces online. Michael<br>
> Herman has also been innovating in this way with Sococo and generously<br>
> sharing his thoughts here on OSList.<br>
><br>
> If anyone has any suggestions/questions, please add your reply here. I<br>
> welcome additional feedback; this is innovation in the open, and anyone<br>
> working on a tech experiment/platform will benefit from this discussion.<br>
><br>
> Lucas Cioffi<br>
> Charlottesville, VA<br>
> Mobile: <a href="tel:917-528-1831" value="+19175281831">917-528-1831</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList <<br>
> <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><wbr>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Lucas,<br>
>> I cannot seem to stay on the intended topic of this thread...to get<br>
>> ideas. I am aware of how short lived creations can be, before they morph<br>
>> into something else. I also realized I asked insufficient questions in a<br>
>> prior post. The questions I feel need to be answered are:<br>
>> Lucas...what are you passionate about with this work you are into, what<br>
>> brings a fire to your heart and soul? And then go with it, whatever it may<br>
>> be. Someone and maybe many someones will say 'this is just what I need!".<br>
>> Follow your bliss and they will come. When something is created from heart<br>
>> centered 'this is what I am in the world to do' and 'this is my bit for<br>
>> creating a more nourishing future for humanity' you are on the right track.<br>
>><br>
>> Michael...in that training you did where the 'we' of that group concluded<br>
>> that OST could be distilled to people and story, that is one example that<br>
>> comes out of doing that exercise. having done this exercise with lots of<br>
>> people, the results are diverse, with different people and groups of people<br>
>> reaching different conclusions. One of the things I say to the facilitators<br>
>> is that no one except them can make the choice of what constitutes and OST<br>
>> meeting and what does not based on whatever elements they personally feel<br>
>> are necessary. It depends very much on what their hearts are calling them<br>
>> to create.<br>
>><br>
>> What feels like space that is open to one person feels like closed space<br>
>> to another person.<br>
>><br>
>> I believe Chris Corrigan spoke about the artistry.<br>
>><br>
>> What I can imagine that would open space for me is a drumming circle. No<br>
>> topics, no reports, etc. Just someone present all of the time (alternating<br>
>> people) who are willing to keep the drumming circle going. As different<br>
>> ones of us join in, each with our own drums, choosing video feed or not,<br>
>> people join in the beat, maybe aligning with the heartbeat of the earth.<br>
>> Somewhere on the screen, there could be a space for capturing reflections<br>
>> that happened during the participation of the individual...in words and in<br>
>> drawings and other graphics. I could imagine this gaining quite a<br>
>> following...although if your intent is money making, it might need to be<br>
>> donation based.<br>
>><br>
>> Blessings,<br>
>> Birgitt<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 4:56 PM Michael Herman via OSList <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><wbr>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> I watched a video yesterday from a recent conference, a traditional<br>
>>> affair with all shapes and sizes of workshop/presentation sessions. This<br>
>>> one I was watching had a sort of panel presentation, with five different<br>
>>> people sharing stories. All of their stories were accompanied by a<br>
>>> powerpoint backdrop, but that is sort of forgivable since their topic was<br>
>>> specifically about visualization of complex work and dynamics. Would have<br>
>>> been weird without some visuals to their stories of visualizations.<br>
>>><br>
>>> The interesting thing is that one of the panelists was across an ocean.<br>
>>> He presented on the big screen, shared his screen to show his examples, and<br>
>>> all through the session he watched the audience and the other speakers on<br>
>>> his laptop. He asked questions of the audience and got a show of hands.<br>
>>> He was totally there.<br>
>>><br>
>>> So some of the wondering about face-to-face or online sounds like to me<br>
>>> a bit like asking if open space needs a fancy retreat setting or could it<br>
>>> happen in a ballroom or church basement or middle school gymnasium. Online<br>
>>> in just another place. Wherever it happens, it's open space, right<br>
>>> enough. You can search the archives for when Ralph Copleman had us cooking<br>
>>> up solutions for opening for a large-ish group on a beach.<br>
>>><br>
>>> In a session at the same conference I mentioned, we did two sessions on<br>
>>> distributed teamwork, where people from all over work on the same team<br>
>>> everyday. We had 40-50 people in the room and another 10 or so online, via<br>
>>> <a href="http://sococo.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sococo.com</a> and also using some little robot gizmos each of which lets<br>
>>> one person put their face on an ipad and remotely control the neck that<br>
>>> holds it, so they can turn their head, nod, look up and down.<br>
>>><br>
>>> in a recent training conversation we boiled down the must-haves in open<br>
>>> space to just two. we wiped out circle, postits, chairs, and so on. we<br>
>>> decided the two essentials were people and a story.<br>
>>><br>
>>> so if the fifth principle works, online is just another place. yes,<br>
>>> some places are better for us than others. pillars are a hassle. so's not<br>
>>> being able to see faces of other ppts. not being able to move myself<br>
>>> between breakouts is pretty much like fixed theater seating.<br>
>>><br>
>>> what works online? pretty much what works everywhere else. we need<br>
>>> people and a story, someplace to tell the story, so that implies a<br>
>>> gathering place. we need a way to see other ppts, their faces and their<br>
>>> groupings in clusters of conversation. we need a way to wander around and<br>
>>> get in other people's view, to be noticed, so we can say hello. we need a<br>
>>> way to write and read topics for discussion and hang them somewhere. We<br>
>>> need a way for anyone to ask the facilitator a question, but ideally not in<br>
>>> the middle of the opening briefing, or right as it finishes. A way to<br>
>>> capture notes and share them with everyone.<br>
>>><br>
>>> The onscreen view can be very simple. I'm wondering just now what it<br>
>>> would look like as a slightly larger than screen-sized space, so it needed<br>
>>> to be moved around and zoomed like a google map. That's a totally new idea<br>
>>> for me, just now, and I think i do like that. Zoom and Slide in a big<br>
>>> online working space. Can you rig that up, Lucas?<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>><br>
>>> Michael Herman<br>
>>> Michael Herman Associates<br>
>>> <a href="tel:312-280-7838" value="+13122807838">312-280-7838</a> (mobile)<br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="http://MichaelHerman.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://MichaelHerman.com</a><br>
>>> <a href="http://OpenSpaceWorld.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://OpenSpaceWorld.org</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList <<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><wbr>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Makes me of the response from a techie on why they still have face to<br>
>>>> face meetings with all the tech available for communication: higher<br>
>>>> bandwidth.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Ben ? thanks for painting a terrific picture of the potential.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Peggy<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
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>>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 5:30 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList <<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><wbr>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The story of OS and the Techies is a long one. As it happened, the<br>
>>>> folks who were present for the first OS, and subsequently constituted major<br>
>>>> parts of the early community were all Techies of a sort. Some of them<br>
>>>> actually designed systems and wrote code and others were more ?eager<br>
>>>> participants? ? that would include me. The new toy was Internet, which at<br>
>>>> the point we became involved was still property of the US Army and known as<br>
>>>> DARPA NET. The world changed under our feet, and the word ?exciting? is<br>
>>>> pretty limp.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Early on some of the commercial techies thought they saw possibilities<br>
>>>> in OS. One group came to me with what they thought was a revolutionary<br>
>>>> idea: Set up a room full of laptops and have everybody communicate through<br>
>>>> them and a ?master? screen set on the wall. The whole thing was prewired<br>
>>>> and magnificently packaged. They made their presentation, but their faces<br>
>>>> fell when I said, ?Guys, we could actually talk to each other.? In fact, I<br>
>>>> believe they made a fair amount of money selling the thing to corporations<br>
>>>> who were (had been) convinced that their executives were too shy, or<br>
>>>> whatever, to communicate directly, face to face.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The iterations have continued over the years. You know the most recent<br>
>>>> ones, but there are more. I have always admired the energy and creativity.<br>
>>>> But at the end of the day, I really didn?t see much value added that<br>
>>>> couldn?t have been supplied (at much less cost) by the simple application<br>
>>>> of everyday, off the shelf kinds of stuff. I do grant that the proposed<br>
>>>> systems were an awful lot prettier ? and I really was impressed with my<br>
>>>> electronic ?birthday.? But from the very beginning it seemed to me that we<br>
>>>> were looking at a technology in search of an application. I totally<br>
>>>> understand the techie attraction, and I salute their tenacity?.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Somehow, the attempt to ?replicate the Open Space experience online?<br>
>>>> just doesn?t catch me. The comparison is indeed odious ? but it rather<br>
>>>> reminds me of attempting to replicate making love.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> So I guess I am back to where I started ? What next? It?s wide open and<br>
>>>> massively potential? but we ain?t there yet. I don?t think.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Harrison<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Winter Address<br>
>>>> 7808 River Falls Dr.<br>
>>>> Potomac, MD 20854<br>
>>>> <a href="tel:301-365-2093" value="+13013652093">301-365-2093</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Summer Address<br>
>>>> 189 Beaucauire Ave<br>
>>>> Camden, ME 04843<br>
>>>> <a href="tel:207%20763-3261" value="+12077633261">207 763-3261</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Websites<br>
>>>> <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.openspaceworld.com</a><br>
>>>> <a href="http://www.ho-image.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.ho-image.com</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> *From:* OSList [mailto:<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.<wbr>openspacetech.org</a><br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.<wbr>openspacetech.org</a>>] *On Behalf Of *Suzanne<br>
>>>> Daigle via OSList<br>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2016 6:06 PM<br>
>>>> *To:* Harrison Owen<br>
>>>> *Cc:* World wide Open Space Technology email list<br>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using<br>
>>>> video chat?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Hello HO,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> NOW WHAT indeed!<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> No more apologies for getting carried away. Be it me bubbling forth<br>
>>>> with the feeling of "love", a word I would not have dared utter loudly in<br>
>>>> public, most especially in professional contexts. Yet those feelings are<br>
>>>> undeniably there and I shall utter them as they happen. :-) So far I've<br>
>>>> survived speaking my mind... Even more it's blasted holes by opening more<br>
>>>> space that led to productive inspired work, in ways that made me happy I<br>
>>>> didn't keep my mouth shut. With guys and gals.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Nor shall I hold back on what I envision in the virtual world. Beyond<br>
>>>> the so called internet. As one who has hosted often in my physical house<br>
>>>> and been similarly hosted in the homes of others, I know there is more to<br>
>>>> be invented there.<br>
>>>> While I may not be the one doing the inventing, I will gladly partake<br>
>>>> in the joy of this imagined future experience and I will wholeheartedly<br>
>>>> nudge, prod, and encourage those who passionately see beyond the reaches of<br>
>>>> what I see.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> So rather than a duel on the matter, what say you to a hearty Martini<br>
>>>> in Manila so I can paint a picture of what I see?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> After all, you're the one who got me in this mess of Open Space with<br>
>>>> all this spirited wave rider stuff and grateful am I that it came my way!<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> From a happy Florida camper,<br>
>>>> Suzanne<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Aug 30, 2016 5:38 PM, "Harrison Owen" <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > OK ? You do get carried away for a bit! But you are right!! AND. Your<br>
>>>> imagination is exceeded only by reality!!! (?Today as I imagine the<br>
>>>> possibility of a Virtual House where I could drop in to just hang out with<br>
>>>> family, friends, colleagues and Open Space pals, from around the world, I<br>
>>>> know that this possibility exists. To see Tova in Israel, Claudia in Egypt,<br>
>>>> Sharon Joy in Manila, Alan in Australia, etc. etc. etc.?)<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > Suzanne ? This is what we do. Every day. All the time. Ever<br>
>>>> since!!!! It?s called The Internet.<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > NOW WHAT!<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > ho<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > Winter Address<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > 7808 River Falls Dr.<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > Potomac, MD 20854<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > <a href="tel:301-365-2093" value="+13013652093">301-365-2093</a><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > Summer Address<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > 189 Beaucauire Ave<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > Camden, ME 04843<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > <a href="tel:207%20763-3261" value="+12077633261">207 763-3261</a><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > Websites<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.openspaceworld.com</a><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > <a href="http://www.ho-image.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.ho-image.com</a><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > From: OSList [mailto:<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.<wbr>openspacetech.org</a>] On<br>
>>>> Behalf Of Suzanne Daigle via OSList<br>
>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:07 PM<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > To: Lucas Cioffi; World wide Open Space Technology email list<br>
>>>> > Subject: Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using<br>
>>>> video chat?<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > Dear Lucas and all,<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > As you pose your question and I saw the replies, I realize once again<br>
>>>> how passionate you, Ben Roberts, Brian Burt and others are about creating<br>
>>>> virtual experiences for others and with others. With the spirit and<br>
>>>> essence of Open Space. Thank you so very much!<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > In seeing your names, I relived the magic of past virtual Open Space<br>
>>>> events (Bren? Brown and the Global Conversation - Maestro and Brian Burt)<br>
>>>> and Harrison's 80th Birthday Party (Lucas and Michael Herman) last year<br>
>>>> and yes WOSonOS Florida too (Ben Roberts and others) with opportunities<br>
>>>> here and there to welcome colleagues.<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > None perfect but all exhilarating in the trailblazing and<br>
>>>> experiencing of it.<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > Lucas I share your "Field of Dream Passion - Build it and They Will<br>
>>>> Come" though not in developing, refining, improving or simplifying the<br>
>>>> mechanics of it in the backroom so all can go smooth in the virtual space.<br>
>>>> That is not my expertise or passion. It is the work of unsung heroes.<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > If I was to focus on your word "simplest" aka "simplify", I wonder if<br>
>>>> we could not create the feel of sitting in a circle without talking about a<br>
>>>> circle (like sitting around a campfire, in the comfort of your living room<br>
>>>> or around your kitchen table)? Rather than breakouts, could we have rooms<br>
>>>> and corners where people can go hang out? Rather than a marketplace wall,<br>
>>>> it could be like going to a movie with a bill board that announces the<br>
>>>> movies that are playing. Then of course you could see who's there, in which<br>
>>>> room. People would instantly think this is really cool and not a process<br>
>>>> thing.<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > We know that Open Space works best when we don't talk about Open<br>
>>>> Space; we don't talk about a circle, breakouts and stuff. We simply invite<br>
>>>> from the purpose, theme or reason for meeting. In those first moments of<br>
>>>> sitting in a circle, looking at the floor and the marketplace wall, it all<br>
>>>> seems so foreign to people who have never experienced OS before. Why then<br>
>>>> should we bring these concepts into the virtual space? We don't have to<br>
>>>> counteract the familiarity of a theatre style setting, reject the podium or<br>
>>>> a panel of speakers.<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > We can create brand new space - a space of welcome, connecting and<br>
>>>> getting things done from the comfort of our own home or office or wherever.<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > For each element of Open Space, there could be a way of explaining it<br>
>>>> that invites a degree of freedom that feels different, open and fun. People<br>
>>>> might attribute it to "this is how it happens virtually" and in the process<br>
>>>> they would be living the law of two feet. We'd be communicating intent as<br>
>>>> we give the mechanics of how to move around.<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > I'm sorry if I got a bit carried away. Ben Roberts once told me years<br>
>>>> ago that he pictured that some virtual meetings could be better than in<br>
>>>> person. I didn't quite believe him. Today as I imagine the possibility of<br>
>>>> a Virtual House where I could drop in to just hang out with family,<br>
>>>> friends, colleagues and Open Space pals, from around the world, I know that<br>
>>>> this possibility exists. To see Tova in Israel, Claudia in Egypt, Sharon<br>
>>>> Joy in Manila, Alan in Australia, etc. etc. etc.<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
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>>>> > Suzanne<br>
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>>>> ><br>
>>>> > Suzanne Daigle<br>
>>>> > Open Space Facilitator<br>
>>>> > NuFocus Strategic Group<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > FL <a href="tel:941-359-8877" value="+19413598877">941-359-8877</a><br>
>>>> > Cell: <a href="tel:203-722-2009" value="+12037222009">203-722-2009</a><br>
>>>> > <a href="http://www.nufocusgroup.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.nufocusgroup.com</a><br>
>>>> > <a href="mailto:s.daigle@nufocusgroup.com">s.daigle@nufocusgroup.com</a><br>
>>>> > Twitter @Daiglesuz<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Lucas Cioffi via OSList <<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><wbr>> wrote:<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > Hi All,<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > I would be super-excited to hear how folks would design the simplest<br>
>>>> online Open Space experience using video chat.<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > I posted my thoughts below, but I put them further down so that you<br>
>>>> might have a moment to think about what online OS experience would work<br>
>>>> best for you, rather than letting my thoughts influence yours.<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > My...<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
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>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > thoughts...<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > are...<br>
>>>> ><br>
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>>>> > down...<br>
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>>>> > Here are my rough thoughts:<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > 1. When the event begins you open up a webpage. You can see the<br>
>>>> following:<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > where the opening circle is<br>
>>>> > how many virtual breakout spaces there are<br>
>>>> > who is in each virtual space right now<br>
>>>> > what is being discussed now and in the future (a bulletin board /<br>
>>>> marketplace / idea wall)<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > 2. Next you choose to enter a space by turning on your video chat.<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > Note: The following features seem helpful but not necessary:<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > 3. When you arrive in a space, you see a shared notes area available<br>
>>>> to all participants.<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > 4. There is a way to raise your hand to indicate that you'd like to<br>
>>>> speak.<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > 5. There is a way to share a quick message such as ("I have to step<br>
>>>> away for a moment").<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > Thanks so much for any advice. I look forward to hearing what you<br>
>>>> have in mind!<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > Lucas Cioffi<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > Founder, QiqoChat<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > Charlottesville, VA<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > Mobile: <a href="tel:917-528-1831" value="+19175281831">917-528-1831</a><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 07:05:34 +0100<br>
From: paul levy via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.<wbr>org</a>><br>
To: Lucas Cioffi <<a href="mailto:lucas@qiqochat.com">lucas@qiqochat.com</a>>, World wide Open Space<br>
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Subject: Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video<br>
chat?<br>
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Lucas<br>
<br>
I wrote this a year ago but keep coming back to it. I go with the view that<br>
there is something else in the digital realm we've yet to invent. As things<br>
stand I feel concerned about what we are doing "online" especially in our<br>
attempts to transpose physical to digital via metaphors borrowed from the<br>
physical ...<br>
<br>
"After I nearly died my whole life flashed in front of me and then the<br>
image settled into an enormous tableau, like a tapestry I could step<br>
through.<br>
<br>
"Time became space and every moment of my life was there in crystal clarity<br>
- from my birth to my final moments, spread out in all directions around<br>
me.<br>
<br>
"Yet somehow I could also behold it all at the same time, in the same<br>
place. It was then I noticed the holes - frightening spaces in the picture,<br>
empty even of shadow. Utter nothingness.<br>
<br>
"I knew in that moment our tapestries are meant to be entire, to be<br>
complete. These were the holes when I was not present in my own waking<br>
life. These were little voids claimed by other influences on my attention.<br>
Some of the tears and holes in my life picture were tiny, some were huge.<br>
Yet I knew I needed the whole picture to move on properly.<br>
<br>
Then I realised it: These were the holes when I was texting, letting the<br>
infinite quality of my life be remade into ones and zeros that were never<br>
truly born of my being, the gestures I made, without actually caring or<br>
being there in my heart and mind. And these were spaces I could never<br>
easily fill again.<br>
<br>
"The picture unraveled like a tsunami then fractured. Voiceless I screamed,<br>
and awoke, sweating in my bed."<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
On Sunday, 28 August 2016, Lucas Cioffi via OSList <<br>
<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><wbr>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi All,<br>
><br>
> I would be super-excited to hear how folks would design the simplest<br>
> online Open Space experience using video chat.<br>
><br>
> I posted my thoughts below, but I put them further down so that you might<br>
> have a moment to think about what online OS experience would work best for<br>
> you, rather than letting my thoughts influence yours.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> My...<br>
><br>
><br>
> thoughts...<br>
><br>
><br>
> are...<br>
><br>
><br>
> down...<br>
><br>
><br>
> below...<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Here are my rough thoughts:<br>
><br>
> 1. When the event begins you open up a webpage. You can see the following:<br>
><br>
> - where the opening circle is<br>
> - how many virtual breakout spaces there are<br>
> - who is in each virtual space right now<br>
> - what is being discussed now and in the future (a bulletin board /<br>
> marketplace / idea wall)<br>
><br>
> 2. Next you choose to enter a space by turning on your video chat.<br>
><br>
> *Note: The following features seem helpful but not necessary:*<br>
> 3. When you arrive in a space, you see a shared notes area available to<br>
> all participants.<br>
><br>
> 4. There is a way to raise your hand to indicate that you'd like to speak.<br>
><br>
> 5. There is a way to share a quick message such as ("I have to step away<br>
> for a moment").<br>
><br>
> *Thanks so much for any advice. I look forward to hearing what you have<br>
> in mind!*<br>
><br>
> Lucas Cioffi<br>
> Founder, QiqoChat<br>
> Charlottesville, VA<br>
> Mobile: <a href="tel:917-528-1831" value="+19175281831">917-528-1831</a><br>
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:55:24 +0300<br>
From: Bhavesh Patel via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.<wbr>org</a>><br>
To: Michael Herman <<a href="mailto:michael@michaelherman.com">michael@michaelherman.com</a>>, World wide Open Space<br>
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Subject: Re: [OSList] metaphorum: a clean language one-day online<br>
gathering<br>
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??Hi Michael,<br>
<br>
Yes I would agree that experiencing how clean language and clean coaching<br>
works is important, and then clean space as well. It is a bit like open<br>
space, some people just don't get it until they jump in and then in makes<br>
sense in the first minutes!<br>
<br>
The clean approach that I experienced really made sense to me because of my<br>
open space experience. Open space supports the force of self-organisation<br>
in groups, clean language supports the force of self-organisation in<br>
individuals.<br>
<br>
Let me try to explain my understanding of it. Normal coaching approaches<br>
are quite directive, like many facilitation processes. They involve a<br>
series of steps, usually starting with goal identification, and then<br>
questions are used as a way of controlling the process and therefore the<br>
person to some extent. There are times when this is useful, and other times<br>
when it is not.<br>
<br>
The clean approach recognises that we are deeply complex individuals with<br>
all sorts of stuff going on inside. We are influenced by so much internal<br>
and external stuff of which we are only slightly aware and out of all that<br>
comes that small part of reality that we are conscious of!!! So WHO KNOWS<br>
how it all works, we barely know ourselves... and then add to that all the<br>
cognitive science pattern detecting biases that we have.<br>
<br>
One way to work with a complex adaptive system called a person is to use<br>
symbolic language / metaphor. Words will never describe that deep complex<br>
reality of ourselves, however metaphors probably get the closest to<br>
expressing it because they can hold so much more than explicit descriptions<br>
can. Abstraction rather than explicitness may be much more important than<br>
we presently recognise when it comes to human learning.<br>
<br>
So the clean approach has 9 very light content free questions that provide<br>
just enough minimal structure to support a person work with their dynamic<br>
self-organising complexity through noticing their metaphorical landscape<br>
from which emerges self, meaning, and all else.<br>
<br>
Clean does not attempt to define a goal and reach an action plan like most<br>
coaching does. It starts wherever the client wants to start, and even<br>
starts wherever the client wants to sit down, and even how they want to sit<br>
down, if they want to! Once it starts the coach simply asks the relevant<br>
question from the 9, and then sees the response and then based on that asks<br>
the next question, and the client ends up wherever they end up by the end<br>
of the session.<br>
<br>
So if someone is wondering if you can use open space with one person in a<br>
coaching context, the clean approach gets close to it.<br>
<br>
As I said that is my take on it. Here is an article with the two people I<br>
spent 3 days with: <a href="http://www.cleanlanguage.co.uk/CleanLanguage.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.cleanlanguage.co.<wbr>uk/CleanLanguage.html</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Smiles Bhav...<br>
<br>
<br>
On 30 August 2016 at 21:37, Michael Herman via OSList <oslist@lists.<br>
<a href="http://openspacetech.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> thanks Jan and Bhavesh for the references to clean space. i think i only<br>
> half-understand what it is or means or how it works. maybe i will raise it<br>
> at the metaphorum event. maybe i need to see it working. i think i need<br>
> to discover the shape of mind that allows one to ask these questions and<br>
> have them feel/sound normal, rather than like a set of hoops to jump<br>
> through. m<br>
><br>
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> --<br>
><br>
> Michael Herman<br>
> Michael Herman Associates<br>
> 312-280-7838 (mobile)<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://MichaelHerman.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://MichaelHerman.com</a><br>
> <a href="http://OpenSpaceWorld.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://OpenSpaceWorld.org</a><br>
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> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 12:40 AM, Jan H?glund via OSList <<br>
> <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><wbr>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> This is a sidetrack. Clean Language seems to be related to Clean Space.<br>
>><br>
>> Found this...<br>
>><br>
>> "The technology that came to be know as 'Clean Space' evolved alongside<br>
>> Clean Language. Space was no longer empty area. It had properties and<br>
>> peculiarities of its own. Physical space became psychoactive and therapy<br>
>> took a new dimension."<br>
>> ?Philip Harland, The Power of Six, p. 18.<br>
>><br>
>> The Power of Six, by the way, seems to be simplicity itself (the exact<br>
>> wording varies depending on the situation):<br>
>><br>
>> - What do you know? x 1<br>
>> - And what else do you know? x 5<br>
>> - And *now* what do you know? x 1<br>
>> - Repeat x 6 (or as needed)<br>
>><br>
>> Jan, Sweden<br>
>><br>
>> ------------------------------<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:michael@michaelherman.com">michael@michaelherman.com</a>; <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>
>> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:12:49 -0400<br>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] metaphorum: a clean language one-day online<br>
>> gathering<br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Clean Language! Sounds a little suspect to me. But walking the talk, and<br>
>> talking the walk is definitely what it (real invitation) is all about.<br>
>> Doing all of that is not something you will learn in a ?facilitation?<br>
>> class. Actually, don?t even try. Find a native speaker.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ho<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Winter Address<br>
>><br>
>> 7808 River Falls Dr.<br>
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>> Summer Address<br>
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>> Websites<br>
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>> <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.openspaceworld.com</a><br>
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>> <a href="http://www.ho-image.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.ho-image.com</a><br>
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>> *From:* OSList [mailto:<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.<wbr>openspacetech.org</a>] *On<br>
>> Behalf Of *Michael Herman via OSList<br>
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 26, 2016 11:37 AM<br>
>> *To:* OSLIST<br>
>> *Subject:* [OSList] metaphorum: a clean language one-day online gathering<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> there's something interesting happening that some of us might want to<br>
>> join on september 9th. i don't think it's been mentioned here yet.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> i first heard about "clean language" from harold shinsato. it seems<br>
>> useful in our conversations with sponsors about invitations, to help us<br>
>> work with their story in their own words. it'll be useful in other<br>
>> settings, too, like coaching.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> the event on the 9th is a 12-hour online gathering, i would say heavily<br>
>> informed by open space or maybe it's an experimental online adaptation of<br>
>> open space. but come for the topic, the ideas and practice, and the<br>
>> learning, not for the process.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> here are the links where you can check it out. i'm planning to<br>
>> participate in the window that will be daytime in chicago.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> what is the metaphorum online gathering?<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://judyrees.co.uk/metaphorum-2016/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://judyrees.co.uk/<wbr>metaphorum-2016/</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> what is clean language?<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://judyrees.co.uk/what-is-clean-language-2/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://judyrees.co.uk/what-is-<wbr>clean-language-2/</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Michael<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>><br>
>> Michael Herman<br>
>> Michael Herman Associates<br>
>><br>
>> 312-280-7838 (mobile)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://MichaelHerman.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://MichaelHerman.com</a><br>
>> <a href="http://OpenSpaceWorld.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://OpenSpaceWorld.org</a><br>
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