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Re: What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat?</span><br><span> (Suzanne Daigle via OSList)</span><br><span> 2. Re: What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat?</span><br><span> (Harrison Owen via OSList)</span><br><span> 3. Re: What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat?</span><br><span> (Suzanne Daigle via OSList)</span><br><span> 4. Re: What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat?</span><br><span> (Harrison Owen via OSList)</span><br><span> 5. Re: What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat?</span><br><span> (Peggy Holman via OSList)</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>----------------------------------------------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 1</span><br><span>Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 17:07:18 -0400</span><br><span>From: Suzanne Daigle via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>To: Lucas Cioffi <<a href="mailto:lucas@qiqochat.com">lucas@qiqochat.com</a>>, World wide Open Space</span><br><span> Technology email list <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video</span><br><span> chat?</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:CAJh+fLBjDaa8UXunQhuQTzX6kvQ5-R2h9vRsSooQ-8tQn+vU8A@mail.gmail.com">CAJh+fLBjDaa8UXunQhuQTzX6kvQ5-R2h9vRsSooQ-8tQn+vU8A@mail.gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Dear Lucas and all,</span><br><span></span><br><span>As you pose your question and I saw the replies, I realize once again how</span><br><span>passionate you, Ben Roberts, Brian Burt and others are about creating</span><br><span>virtual experiences for others and with others. With the spirit and</span><br><span>essence of Open Space. Thank you so very much!</span><br><span></span><br><span>In seeing your names, I relived the magic of past virtual Open Space events</span><br><span>(Bren? Brown and the Global Conversation - Maestro and Brian Burt) and</span><br><span>Harrison's 80th Birthday Party (Lucas and Michael Herman) last year and</span><br><span>yes WOSonOS Florida too (Ben Roberts and others) with opportunities here</span><br><span>and there to welcome colleagues.</span><br><span></span><br><span>None perfect but all exhilarating in the trailblazing and experiencing of</span><br><span>it.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Lucas I share your "Field of Dream Passion - Build it and They Will Come"</span><br><span>though not in developing, refining, improving or simplifying the mechanics</span><br><span>of it in the backroom so all can go smooth in the virtual space. That is</span><br><span>not my expertise or passion. It is the work of unsung heroes.</span><br><span></span><br><span>If I was to focus on your word "simplest" aka "simplify", I wonder if we</span><br><span>could not create the feel of sitting in a circle without talking about a</span><br><span>circle (like sitting around a campfire, in the comfort of your living room</span><br><span>or around your kitchen table)? Rather than breakouts, could we have rooms</span><br><span>and corners where people can go hang out? Rather than a marketplace wall,</span><br><span>it could be like going to a movie with a bill board that announces the</span><br><span>movies that are playing. Then of course you could see who's there, in which</span><br><span>room. People would instantly think this is really cool and not a process</span><br><span>thing.</span><br><span></span><br><span>We know that Open Space works best when we don't talk about Open Space; we</span><br><span>don't talk about a circle, breakouts and stuff. We simply invite from the</span><br><span>purpose, theme or reason for meeting. In those first moments of sitting in</span><br><span>a circle, looking at the floor and the marketplace wall, it all seems so</span><br><span>foreign to people who have never experienced OS before. Why then should we</span><br><span>bring these concepts into the virtual space? We don't have to counteract</span><br><span>the familiarity of a theatre style setting, reject the podium or a panel of</span><br><span>speakers.</span><br><span>We can create brand new space - a space of welcome, connecting and getting</span><br><span>things done from the comfort of our own home or office or wherever.</span><br><span></span><br><span>For each element of Open Space, there could be a way of explaining it that</span><br><span>invites a degree of freedom that feels different, open and fun. People</span><br><span>might attribute it to "this is how it happens virtually" and in the process</span><br><span>they would be living the law of two feet. We'd be communicating intent as</span><br><span>we give the mechanics of how to move around.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I'm sorry if I got a bit carried away. Ben Roberts once told me years ago</span><br><span>that he pictured that some virtual meetings could be better than in person.</span><br><span>I didn't quite believe him. Today as I imagine the possibility of a</span><br><span>Virtual House where I could drop in to just hang out with family, friends,</span><br><span>colleagues and Open Space pals, from around the world, I know that this</span><br><span>possibility exists. To see Tova in Israel, Claudia in Egypt, Sharon Joy in</span><br><span>Manila, Alan in Australia, etc. etc. etc.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Suzanne</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Suzanne Daigle</span><br><span>Open Space Facilitator</span><br><span>NuFocus Strategic Group</span><br><span></span><br><span>FL 941-359-8877</span><br><span>Cell: 203-722-2009</span><br><span><a href="http://www.nufocusgroup.com">www.nufocusgroup.com</a></span><br><span><a href="mailto:s.daigle@nufocusgroup.com">s.daigle@nufocusgroup.com</a></span><br><span>Twitter @Daiglesuz</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Lucas Cioffi via OSList <</span><br><span><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi All,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I would be super-excited to hear how folks would design the simplest</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>online Open Space experience using video chat.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I posted my thoughts below, but I put them further down so that you might</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>have a moment to think about what online OS experience would work best for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>you, rather than letting my thoughts influence yours.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>My...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>thoughts...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>are...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>down...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>below...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Here are my rough thoughts:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1. When the event begins you open up a webpage. You can see the following:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> - where the opening circle is</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> - how many virtual breakout spaces there are</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> - who is in each virtual space right now</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> - what is being discussed now and in the future (a bulletin board /</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> marketplace / idea wall)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>2. Next you choose to enter a space by turning on your video chat.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Note: The following features seem helpful but not necessary:*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>3. When you arrive in a space, you see a shared notes area available to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>all participants.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>4. There is a way to raise your hand to indicate that you'd like to speak.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>5. There is a way to share a quick message such as ("I have to step away</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>for a moment").</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Thanks so much for any advice. I look forward to hearing what you have</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>in mind!*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Lucas Cioffi</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Founder, QiqoChat</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Charlottesville, VA</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Mobile: 917-528-1831</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>OSList mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Past archives can be viewed here: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/">http://www.mail-archive.com/</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20160830/41e4e376/attachment.html">http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20160830/41e4e376/attachment.html</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 2</span><br><span>Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 17:38:54 -0400</span><br><span>From: Harrison Owen via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>To: "'Suzanne Daigle'" <<a href="mailto:sdaigle4@gmail.com">sdaigle4@gmail.com</a>>, "'World wide Open Space</span><br><span> Technology email list'" <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video</span><br><span> chat?</span><br><span>Message-ID: <000f01d20306$e8a17c30$b9e47490$@net></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>OK ? You do get carried away for a bit! But you are right!! AND. Your imagination is exceeded only by reality!!! (?Today as I imagine the possibility of a Virtual House where I could drop in to just hang out with family, friends, colleagues and Open Space pals, from around the world, I know that this possibility exists. To see Tova in Israel, Claudia in Egypt, Sharon Joy in Manila, Alan in Australia, etc. etc. etc.?) </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Suzanne ? This is what we do. Every day. All the time. Ever since!!!! It?s called The Internet.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>NOW WHAT!</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>ho</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Winter Address</span><br><span></span><br><span>7808 River Falls Dr.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Potomac, MD 20854</span><br><span></span><br><span>301-365-2093</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Summer Address</span><br><span></span><br><span>189 Beaucauire Ave</span><br><span></span><br><span>Camden, ME 04843</span><br><span></span><br><span>207 763-3261</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Websites</span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a></span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>From: OSList [<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] On Behalf Of Suzanne Daigle via OSList</span><br><span>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:07 PM</span><br><span>To: Lucas Cioffi; World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Dear Lucas and all,</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>As you pose your question and I saw the replies, I realize once again how passionate you, Ben Roberts, Brian Burt and others are about creating virtual experiences for others and with others. With the spirit and essence of Open Space. Thank you so very much!</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>In seeing your names, I relived the magic of past virtual Open Space events (Bren? Brown and the Global Conversation - Maestro and Brian Burt) and Harrison's 80th Birthday Party (Lucas and Michael Herman) last year and yes WOSonOS Florida too (Ben Roberts and others) with opportunities here and there to welcome colleagues. </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>None perfect but all exhilarating in the trailblazing and experiencing of it. </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Lucas I share your "Field of Dream Passion - Build it and They Will Come" though not in developing, refining, improving or simplifying the mechanics of it in the backroom so all can go smooth in the virtual space. That is not my expertise or passion. It is the work of unsung heroes. </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>If I was to focus on your word "simplest" aka "simplify", I wonder if we could not create the feel of sitting in a circle without talking about a circle (like sitting around a campfire, in the comfort of your living room or around your kitchen table)? Rather than breakouts, could we have rooms and corners where people can go hang out? Rather than a marketplace wall, it could be like going to a movie with a bill board that announces the movies that are playing. Then of course you could see who's there, in which room. People would instantly think this is really cool and not a process thing. </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>We know that Open Space works best when we don't talk about Open Space; we don't talk about a circle, breakouts and stuff. We simply invite from the purpose, theme or reason for meeting. In those first moments of sitting in a circle, looking at the floor and the marketplace wall, it all seems so foreign to people who have never experienced OS before. Why then should we bring these concepts into the virtual space? We don't have to counteract the familiarity of a theatre style setting, reject the podium or a panel of speakers. </span><br><span></span><br><span>We can create brand new space - a space of welcome, connecting and getting things done from the comfort of our own home or office or wherever. </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>For each element of Open Space, there could be a way of explaining it that invites a degree of freedom that feels different, open and fun. People might attribute it to "this is how it happens virtually" and in the process they would be living the law of two feet. We'd be communicating intent as we give the mechanics of how to move around. </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>I'm sorry if I got a bit carried away. Ben Roberts once told me years ago that he pictured that some virtual meetings could be better than in person. I didn't quite believe him. Today as I imagine the possibility of a Virtual House where I could drop in to just hang out with family, friends, colleagues and Open Space pals, from around the world, I know that this possibility exists. To see Tova in Israel, Claudia in Egypt, Sharon Joy in Manila, Alan in Australia, etc. etc. etc. </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Suzanne</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Suzanne Daigle</span><br><span>Open Space Facilitator</span><br><span>NuFocus Strategic Group</span><br><span></span><br><span>FL 941-359-8877</span><br><span>Cell: 203-722-2009</span><br><span><a href="http://www.nufocusgroup.com">www.nufocusgroup.com</a></span><br><span><a href="mailto:s.daigle@nufocusgroup.com">s.daigle@nufocusgroup.com</a></span><br><span>Twitter @Daiglesuz</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Lucas Cioffi via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><span>Hi All,</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>I would be super-excited to hear how folks would design the simplest online Open Space experience using video chat. </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>I posted my thoughts below, but I put them further down so that you might have a moment to think about what online OS experience would work best for you, rather than letting my thoughts influence yours.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>My...</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>thoughts...</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>are...</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>down...</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>below...</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Here are my rough thoughts:</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>1. When the event begins you open up a webpage. You can see the following:</span><br><span></span><br><span>* where the opening circle is</span><br><span>* how many virtual breakout spaces there are</span><br><span>* who is in each virtual space right now</span><br><span>* what is being discussed now and in the future (a bulletin board / marketplace / idea wall)</span><br><span></span><br><span>2. Next you choose to enter a space by turning on your video chat.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Note: The following features seem helpful but not necessary:</span><br><span></span><br><span>3. When you arrive in a space, you see a shared notes area available to all participants.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>4. There is a way to raise your hand to indicate that you'd like to speak.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>5. There is a way to share a quick message such as ("I have to step away for a moment").</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Thanks so much for any advice. I look forward to hearing what you have in mind!</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Lucas Cioffi</span><br><span></span><br><span>Founder, QiqoChat</span><br><span></span><br><span>Charlottesville, VA</span><br><span></span><br><span>Mobile: 917-528-1831</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>OSList mailing list</span><br><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>Past archives can be viewed here: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20160830/c904e4b0/attachment-0001.htm">http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20160830/c904e4b0/attachment-0001.htm</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 3</span><br><span>Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 18:05:52 -0400</span><br><span>From: Suzanne Daigle via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>To: Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>></span><br><span>Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video</span><br><span> chat?</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:CAJh+fLB6QC24ijtFFs4cfuu_U8NQo9cYpmVH5bQUPMFcoZTNDQ@mail.gmail.com">CAJh+fLB6QC24ijtFFs4cfuu_U8NQo9cYpmVH5bQUPMFcoZTNDQ@mail.gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Hello HO,</span><br><span></span><br><span>NOW WHAT indeed!</span><br><span></span><br><span>No more apologies for getting carried away. Be it me bubbling forth with</span><br><span>the feeling of "love", a word I would not have dared utter loudly in</span><br><span>public, most especially in professional contexts. Yet those feelings are</span><br><span>undeniably there and I shall utter them as they happen. :-) So far I've</span><br><span>survived speaking my mind... Even more it's blasted holes by opening more</span><br><span>space that led to productive inspired work, in ways that made me happy I</span><br><span>didn't keep my mouth shut. With guys and gals.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Nor shall I hold back on what I envision in the virtual world. Beyond the</span><br><span>so called internet. As one who has hosted often in my physical house and</span><br><span>been similarly hosted in the homes of others, I know there is more to be</span><br><span>invented there.</span><br><span>While I may not be the one doing the inventing, I will gladly partake in</span><br><span>the joy of this imagined future experience and I will wholeheartedly nudge,</span><br><span>prod, and encourage those who passionately see beyond the reaches of what I</span><br><span>see.</span><br><span></span><br><span>So rather than a duel on the matter, what say you to a hearty Martini in</span><br><span>Manila so I can paint a picture of what I see?</span><br><span></span><br><span>After all, you're the one who got me in this mess of Open Space with all</span><br><span>this spirited wave rider stuff and grateful am I that it came my way!</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>From a happy Florida camper,</span><br></blockquote><span>Suzanne</span><br><span></span><br><span>On Aug 30, 2016 5:38 PM, "Harrison Owen" <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>OK ? You do get carried away for a bit! But you are right!! AND. Your</span><br></blockquote><span>imagination is exceeded only by reality!!! (?Today as I imagine the</span><br><span>possibility of a Virtual House where I could drop in to just hang out with</span><br><span>family, friends, colleagues and Open Space pals, from around the world, I</span><br><span>know that this possibility exists. To see Tova in Israel, Claudia in Egypt,</span><br><span>Sharon Joy in Manila, Alan in Australia, etc. etc. etc.?)</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Suzanne ? This is what we do. Every day. All the time. Ever</span><br></blockquote><span>since!!!! It?s called The Internet.</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NOW WHAT!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ho</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Winter Address</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>7808 River Falls Dr.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Potomac, MD 20854</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>301-365-2093</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Summer Address</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>189 Beaucauire Ave</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Camden, ME 04843</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>207 763-3261</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Websites</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: OSList [<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] On Behalf Of</span><br></blockquote><span>Suzanne Daigle via OSList</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:07 PM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: Lucas Cioffi; World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video</span><br></blockquote><span>chat?</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Dear Lucas and all,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>As you pose your question and I saw the replies, I realize once again how</span><br></blockquote><span>passionate you, Ben Roberts, Brian Burt and others are about creating</span><br><span>virtual experiences for others and with others. With the spirit and</span><br><span>essence of Open Space. Thank you so very much!</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>In seeing your names, I relived the magic of past virtual Open Space</span><br></blockquote><span>events (Bren? Brown and the Global Conversation - Maestro and Brian Burt)</span><br><span>and Harrison's 80th Birthday Party (Lucas and Michael Herman) last year</span><br><span>and yes WOSonOS Florida too (Ben Roberts and others) with opportunities</span><br><span>here and there to welcome colleagues.</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>None perfect but all exhilarating in the trailblazing and experiencing of</span><br></blockquote><span>it.</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Lucas I share your "Field of Dream Passion - Build it and They Will Come"</span><br></blockquote><span>though not in developing, refining, improving or simplifying the mechanics</span><br><span>of it in the backroom so all can go smooth in the virtual space. That is</span><br><span>not my expertise or passion. It is the work of unsung heroes.</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>If I was to focus on your word "simplest" aka "simplify", I wonder if we</span><br></blockquote><span>could not create the feel of sitting in a circle without talking about a</span><br><span>circle (like sitting around a campfire, in the comfort of your living room</span><br><span>or around your kitchen table)? Rather than breakouts, could we have rooms</span><br><span>and corners where people can go hang out? Rather than a marketplace wall,</span><br><span>it could be like going to a movie with a bill board that announces the</span><br><span>movies that are playing. Then of course you could see who's there, in which</span><br><span>room. People would instantly think this is really cool and not a process</span><br><span>thing.</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>We know that Open Space works best when we don't talk about Open Space;</span><br></blockquote><span>we don't talk about a circle, breakouts and stuff. We simply invite from</span><br><span>the purpose, theme or reason for meeting. In those first moments of sitting</span><br><span>in a circle, looking at the floor and the marketplace wall, it all seems so</span><br><span>foreign to people who have never experienced OS before. Why then should we</span><br><span>bring these concepts into the virtual space? We don't have to counteract</span><br><span>the familiarity of a theatre style setting, reject the podium or a panel of</span><br><span>speakers.</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>We can create brand new space - a space of welcome, connecting and</span><br></blockquote><span>getting things done from the comfort of our own home or office or wherever.</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>For each element of Open Space, there could be a way of explaining it</span><br></blockquote><span>that invites a degree of freedom that feels different, open and fun. People</span><br><span>might attribute it to "this is how it happens virtually" and in the process</span><br><span>they would be living the law of two feet. We'd be communicating intent as</span><br><span>we give the mechanics of how to move around.</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I'm sorry if I got a bit carried away. Ben Roberts once told me years ago</span><br></blockquote><span>that he pictured that some virtual meetings could be better than in person.</span><br><span>I didn't quite believe him. Today as I imagine the possibility of a</span><br><span>Virtual House where I could drop in to just hang out with family, friends,</span><br><span>colleagues and Open Space pals, from around the world, I know that this</span><br><span>possibility exists. To see Tova in Israel, Claudia in Egypt, Sharon Joy in</span><br><span>Manila, Alan in Australia, etc. etc. etc.</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Suzanne</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 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type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Suzanne Daigle</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Open Space Facilitator</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NuFocus Strategic Group</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>FL 941-359-8877</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cell: 203-722-2009</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.nufocusgroup.com">www.nufocusgroup.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:s.daigle@nufocusgroup.com">s.daigle@nufocusgroup.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Twitter @Daiglesuz</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Lucas Cioffi via OSList <</span><br></blockquote><span><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi All,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I would be super-excited to hear how folks would design the simplest</span><br></blockquote><span>online Open Space experience using video chat.</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I posted my thoughts below, but I put them further down so that you might</span><br></blockquote><span>have a moment to think about what online OS experience would work best for</span><br><span>you, rather than letting my thoughts influence yours.</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>My...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>thoughts...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>are...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>down...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>below...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Here are my rough thoughts:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1. When the event begins you open up a webpage. You can see the</span><br></blockquote><span>following:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>where the opening circle is</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>how many virtual breakout spaces there are</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>who is in each virtual space right now</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>what is being discussed now and in the future (a bulletin board /</span><br></blockquote><span>marketplace / idea wall)</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>2. Next you choose to enter a space by turning on your video chat.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Note: The following features seem helpful but not necessary:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>3. When you arrive in a space, you see a shared notes area available to</span><br></blockquote><span>all participants.</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>4. There is a way to raise your hand to indicate that you'd like to speak.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>5. There is a way to share a quick message such as ("I have to step away</span><br></blockquote><span>for a moment").</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thanks so much for any advice. I look forward to hearing what you have</span><br></blockquote><span>in mind!</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Lucas Cioffi</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Founder, QiqoChat</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Charlottesville, VA</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Mobile: 917-528-1831</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>OSList mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Past archives can be viewed here:</span><br></blockquote><span><a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20160830/54b89604/attachment-0001.htm">http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20160830/54b89604/attachment-0001.htm</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 4</span><br><span>Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 08:30:09 -0400</span><br><span>From: Harrison Owen via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>To: "'Suzanne Daigle'" <<a href="mailto:sdaigle4@gmail.com">sdaigle4@gmail.com</a>>, "'World wide Open Space</span><br><span> Technology email list'" <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video</span><br><span> chat?</span><br><span>Message-ID: <000801d20383$6a7642a0$3f62c7e0$@net></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>The story of OS and the Techies is a long one. As it happened, the folks who were present for the first OS, and subsequently constituted major parts of the early community were all Techies of a sort. Some of them actually designed systems and wrote code and others were more ?eager participants? ? that would include me. The new toy was Internet, which at the point we became involved was still property of the US Army and known as DARPA NET. The world changed under our feet, and the word ?exciting? is pretty limp. </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Early on some of the commercial techies thought they saw possibilities in OS. One group came to me with what they thought was a revolutionary idea: Set up a room full of laptops and have everybody communicate through them and a ?master? screen set on the wall. The whole thing was prewired and magnificently packaged. They made their presentation, but their faces fell when I said, ?Guys, we could actually talk to each other.? In fact, I believe they made a fair amount of money selling the thing to corporations who were (had been) convinced that their executives were too shy, or whatever, to communicate directly, face to face. </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>The iterations have continued over the years. You know the most recent ones, but there are more. I have always admired the energy and creativity. But at the end of the day, I really didn?t see much value added that couldn?t have been supplied (at much less cost) by the simple application of everyday, off the shelf kinds of stuff. I do grant that the proposed systems were an awful lot prettier ? and I really was impressed with my electronic ?birthday.? But from the very beginning it seemed to me that we were looking at a technology in search of an application. I totally understand the techie attraction, and I salute their tenacity?.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Somehow, the attempt to ?replicate the Open Space experience online? just doesn?t catch me. The comparison is indeed odious ? but it rather reminds me of attempting to replicate making love. </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>So I guess I am back to where I started ? What next? It?s wide open and massively potential? but we ain?t there yet. I don?t think.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Harrison</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Winter Address</span><br><span></span><br><span>7808 River Falls Dr.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Potomac, MD 20854</span><br><span></span><br><span>301-365-2093</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Summer Address</span><br><span></span><br><span>189 Beaucauire Ave</span><br><span></span><br><span>Camden, ME 04843</span><br><span></span><br><span>207 763-3261</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Websites</span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a></span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>From: OSList [<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] On Behalf Of Suzanne Daigle via OSList</span><br><span>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 6:06 PM</span><br><span>To: Harrison Owen</span><br><span>Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Hello HO,</span><br><span></span><br><span>NOW WHAT indeed!</span><br><span></span><br><span>No more apologies for getting carried away. Be it me bubbling forth with the feeling of "love", a word I would not have dared utter loudly in public, most especially in professional contexts. Yet those feelings are undeniably there and I shall utter them as they happen. :-) So far I've survived speaking my mind... Even more it's blasted holes by opening more space that led to productive inspired work, in ways that made me happy I didn't keep my mouth shut. With guys and gals. </span><br><span></span><br><span>Nor shall I hold back on what I envision in the virtual world. Beyond the so called internet. As one who has hosted often in my physical house and been similarly hosted in the homes of others, I know there is more to be invented there. </span><br><span>While I may not be the one doing the inventing, I will gladly partake in the joy of this imagined future experience and I will wholeheartedly nudge, prod, and encourage those who passionately see beyond the reaches of what I see. </span><br><span></span><br><span>So rather than a duel on the matter, what say you to a hearty Martini in Manila so I can paint a picture of what I see?</span><br><span></span><br><span>After all, you're the one who got me in this mess of Open Space with all this spirited wave rider stuff and grateful am I that it came my way!</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>From a happy Florida camper, </span><br></blockquote><span>Suzanne</span><br><span></span><br><span>On Aug 30, 2016 5:38 PM, "Harrison Owen" <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>OK ? You do get carried away for a bit! But you are right!! AND. Your imagination is exceeded only by reality!!! (?Today as I imagine the possibility of a Virtual House where I could drop in to just hang out with family, friends, colleagues and Open Space pals, from around the world, I know that this possibility exists. To see Tova in Israel, Claudia in Egypt, Sharon Joy in Manila, Alan in Australia, etc. etc. etc.?)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Suzanne ? This is what we do. Every day. All the time. Ever since!!!! It?s called The Internet.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NOW WHAT!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ho</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Winter Address</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>7808 River Falls Dr.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Potomac, MD 20854</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>301-365-2093</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Summer Address</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>189 Beaucauire Ave</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Camden, ME 04843</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>207 763-3261</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Websites</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: OSList [<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] On Behalf Of Suzanne Daigle via OSList</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:07 PM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: Lucas Cioffi; World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Dear Lucas and all,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>As you pose your question and I saw the replies, I realize once again how passionate you, Ben Roberts, Brian Burt and others are about creating virtual experiences for others and with others. With the spirit and essence of Open Space. Thank you so very much!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>In seeing your names, I relived the magic of past virtual Open Space events (Bren? Brown and the Global Conversation - Maestro and Brian Burt) and Harrison's 80th Birthday Party (Lucas and Michael Herman) last year and yes WOSonOS Florida too (Ben Roberts and others) with opportunities here and there to welcome colleagues. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>None perfect but all exhilarating in the trailblazing and experiencing of it. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Lucas I share your "Field of Dream Passion - Build it and They Will Come" though not in developing, refining, improving or simplifying the mechanics of it in the backroom so all can go smooth in the virtual space. That is not my expertise or passion. It is the work of unsung heroes. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>If I was to focus on your word "simplest" aka "simplify", I wonder if we could not create the feel of sitting in a circle without talking about a circle (like sitting around a campfire, in the comfort of your living room or around your kitchen table)? Rather than breakouts, could we have rooms and corners where people can go hang out? Rather than a marketplace wall, it could be like going to a movie with a bill board that announces the movies that are playing. Then of course you could see who's there, in which room. People would instantly think this is really cool and not a process thing. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>We know that Open Space works best when we don't talk about Open Space; we don't talk about a circle, breakouts and stuff. We simply invite from the purpose, theme or reason for meeting. In those first moments of sitting in a circle, looking at the floor and the marketplace wall, it all seems so foreign to people who have never experienced OS before. Why then should we bring these concepts into the virtual space? We don't have to counteract the familiarity of a theatre style setting, reject the podium or a panel of speakers. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>We can create brand new space - a space of welcome, connecting and getting things done from the comfort of our own home or office or wherever. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>For each element of Open Space, there could be a way of explaining it that invites a degree of freedom that feels different, open and fun. People might attribute it to "this is how it happens virtually" and in the process they would be living the law of two feet. We'd be communicating intent as we give the mechanics of how to move around. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I'm sorry if I got a bit carried away. Ben Roberts once told me years ago that he pictured that some virtual meetings could be better than in person. I didn't quite believe him. Today as I imagine the possibility of a Virtual House where I could drop in to just hang out with family, friends, colleagues and Open Space pals, from around the world, I know that this possibility exists. To see Tova in Israel, Claudia in Egypt, Sharon Joy in Manila, Alan in Australia, etc. etc. etc. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Suzanne</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 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type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Suzanne Daigle</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Open Space Facilitator</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NuFocus Strategic Group</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>FL 941-359-8877</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cell: 203-722-2009</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.nufocusgroup.com">www.nufocusgroup.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:s.daigle@nufocusgroup.com">s.daigle@nufocusgroup.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Twitter @Daiglesuz</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Lucas Cioffi via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi All,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I would be super-excited to hear how folks would design the simplest online Open Space experience using video chat. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I posted my thoughts below, but I put them further down so that you might have a moment to think about what online OS experience would work best for you, rather than letting my thoughts influence yours.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>My...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>thoughts...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>are...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>down...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>below...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Here are my rough thoughts:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1. When the event begins you open up a webpage. You can see the following:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>where the opening circle is</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>how many virtual breakout spaces there are</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>who is in each virtual space right now</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>what is being discussed now and in the future (a bulletin board / marketplace / idea wall)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>2. Next you choose to enter a space by turning on your video chat.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Note: The following features seem helpful but not necessary:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>3. When you arrive in a space, you see a shared notes area available to all participants.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>4. There is a way to raise your hand to indicate that you'd like to speak.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>5. There is a way to share a quick message such as ("I have to step away for a moment").</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thanks so much for any advice. I look forward to hearing what you have in mind!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Lucas Cioffi</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Founder, QiqoChat</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Charlottesville, VA</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Mobile: 917-528-1831</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>OSList mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Past archives can be viewed here: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20160831/bc496361/attachment-0001.htm">http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20160831/bc496361/attachment-0001.htm</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 5</span><br><span>Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 07:45:54 -0700</span><br><span>From: Peggy Holman via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>To: Open Listserv <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video</span><br><span> chat?</span><br><span>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:EB4310B4-E80A-46DB-82B3-DB49AA41B4E6@peggyholman.com">EB4310B4-E80A-46DB-82B3-DB49AA41B4E6@peggyholman.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Makes me of the response from a techie on why they still have face to face meetings with all the tech available for communication: higher bandwidth.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Ben ? thanks for painting a terrific picture of the potential.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Peggy</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>_________________________________</span><br><span>Peggy Holman</span><br><span>Executive Director</span><br><span>Journalism that Matters</span><br><span>15347 SE 49th Place</span><br><span>Bellevue, WA 98006</span><br><span>425-746-6274</span><br><span><a href="http://www.journalismthatmatters.net">www.journalismthatmatters.net</a></span><br><span><a href="http://www.peggyholman.com">www.peggyholman.com</a></span><br><span>Twitter: @peggyholman</span><br><span>JTM Twitter: @JTMStream</span><br><span></span><br><span>Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning?Upheaval into Opportunity <<a href="http://www.engagingemergence.com/">http://www.engagingemergence.com/</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Aug 31, 2016, at 5:30 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The story of OS and the Techies is a long one. As it happened, the folks who were present for the first OS, and subsequently constituted major parts of the early community were all Techies of a sort. Some of them actually designed systems and wrote code and others were more ?eager participants? ? that would include me. The new toy was Internet, which at the point we became involved was still property of the US Army and known as DARPA NET. The world changed under our feet, and the word ?exciting? is pretty limp. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Early on some of the commercial techies thought they saw possibilities in OS. One group came to me with what they thought was a revolutionary idea: Set up a room full of laptops and have everybody communicate through them and a ?master? screen set on the wall. The whole thing was prewired and magnificently packaged. They made their presentation, but their faces fell when I said, ?Guys, we could actually talk to each other.? In fact, I believe they made a fair amount of money selling the thing to corporations who were (had been) convinced that their executives were too shy, or whatever, to communicate directly, face to face. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The iterations have continued over the years. You know the most recent ones, but there are more. I have always admired the energy and creativity. But at the end of the day, I really didn?t see much value added that couldn?t have been supplied (at much less cost) by the simple application of everyday, off the shelf kinds of stuff. I do grant that the proposed systems were an awful lot prettier ? and I really was impressed with my electronic ?birthday.? But from the very beginning it seemed to me that we were looking at a technology in search of an application. I totally understand the techie attraction, and I salute their tenacity?.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Somehow, the attempt to ?replicate the Open Space experience online? just doesn?t catch me. The comparison is indeed odious ? but it rather reminds me of attempting to replicate making love. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>So I guess I am back to where I started ? What next? It?s wide open and massively potential? but we ain?t there yet. I don?t think.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Harrison</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Winter Address</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>7808 River Falls Dr.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Potomac, MD 20854</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>301-365-2093</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Summer Address</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>189 Beaucauire Ave</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Camden, ME 04843</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>207 763-3261</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Websites</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a> <<a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com/">http://www.openspaceworld.com/</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a> <<a href="http://www.ho-image.com/">http://www.ho-image.com/</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: OSList [<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> <<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>] On Behalf Of Suzanne Daigle via OSList</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 6:06 PM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: Harrison Owen</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hello HO,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NOW WHAT indeed!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>No more apologies for getting carried away. Be it me bubbling forth with the feeling of "love", a word I would not have dared utter loudly in public, most especially in professional contexts. Yet those feelings are undeniably there and I shall utter them as they happen. :-) So far I've survived speaking my mind... Even more it's blasted holes by opening more space that led to productive inspired work, in ways that made me happy I didn't keep my mouth shut. With guys and gals. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Nor shall I hold back on what I envision in the virtual world. Beyond the so called internet. As one who has hosted often in my physical house and been similarly hosted in the homes of others, I know there is more to be invented there. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>While I may not be the one doing the inventing, I will gladly partake in the joy of this imagined future experience and I will wholeheartedly nudge, prod, and encourage those who passionately see beyond the reaches of what I see. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>So rather than a duel on the matter, what say you to a hearty Martini in Manila so I can paint a picture of what I see?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>After all, you're the one who got me in this mess of Open Space with all this spirited wave rider stuff and grateful am I that it came my way!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From a happy Florida camper, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Suzanne</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Aug 30, 2016 5:38 PM, "Harrison Owen" <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a> <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">mailto:hhowen@verizon.net</a>>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>OK ? You do get carried away for a bit! But you are right!! AND. Your imagination is exceeded only by reality!!! (?Today as I imagine the possibility of a Virtual House where I could drop in to just hang out with family, friends, colleagues and Open Space pals, from around the world, I know that this possibility exists. To see Tova in Israel, Claudia in Egypt, Sharon Joy in Manila, Alan in Australia, etc. etc. etc.?)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Suzanne ? This is what we do. Every day. All the time. Ever since!!!! It?s called The Internet.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>NOW WHAT!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>ho</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Winter Address</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>7808 River Falls Dr.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Potomac, MD 20854</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>301-365-2093</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Summer Address</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>189 Beaucauire Ave</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Camden, ME 04843</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>207 763-3261</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Websites</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a> <<a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com/">http://www.openspaceworld.com/</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a> <<a href="http://www.ho-image.com/">http://www.ho-image.com/</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: OSList [<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> <<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>] On Behalf Of Suzanne Daigle via OSList</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:07 PM</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: Lucas Cioffi; World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Dear Lucas and all,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>As you pose your question and I saw the replies, I realize once again how passionate you, Ben Roberts, Brian Burt and others are about creating virtual experiences for others and with others. With the spirit and essence of Open Space. Thank you so very much!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>In seeing your names, I relived the magic of past virtual Open Space events (Bren? Brown and the Global Conversation - Maestro and Brian Burt) and Harrison's 80th Birthday Party (Lucas and Michael Herman) last year and yes WOSonOS Florida too (Ben Roberts and others) with opportunities here and there to welcome colleagues. </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>None perfect but all exhilarating in the trailblazing and experiencing of it. </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Lucas I share your "Field of Dream Passion - Build it and They Will Come" though not in developing, refining, improving or simplifying the mechanics of it in the backroom so all can go smooth in the virtual space. That is not my expertise or passion. It is the work of unsung heroes. </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>If I was to focus on your word "simplest" aka "simplify", I wonder if we could not create the feel of sitting in a circle without talking about a circle (like sitting around a campfire, in the comfort of your living room or around your kitchen table)? Rather than breakouts, could we have rooms and corners where people can go hang out? Rather than a marketplace wall, it could be like going to a movie with a bill board that announces the movies that are playing. Then of course you could see who's there, in which room. People would instantly think this is really cool and not a process thing. </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>We know that Open Space works best when we don't talk about Open Space; we don't talk about a circle, breakouts and stuff. We simply invite from the purpose, theme or reason for meeting. In those first moments of sitting in a circle, looking at the floor and the marketplace wall, it all seems so foreign to people who have never experienced OS before. Why then should we bring these concepts into the virtual space? We don't have to counteract the familiarity of a theatre style setting, reject the podium or a panel of speakers. </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>We can create brand new space - a space of welcome, connecting and getting things done from the comfort of our own home or office or wherever. </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>For each element of Open Space, there could be a way of explaining it that invites a degree of freedom that feels different, open and fun. People might attribute it to "this is how it happens virtually" and in the process they would be living the law of two feet. We'd be communicating intent as we give the mechanics of how to move around. </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I'm sorry if I got a bit carried away. Ben Roberts once told me years ago that he pictured that some virtual meetings could be better than in person. I didn't quite believe him. Today as I imagine the possibility of a Virtual House where I could drop in to just hang out with family, friends, colleagues and Open Space pals, from around the world, I know that this possibility exists. To see Tova in Israel, Claudia in Egypt, Sharon Joy in Manila, Alan in Australia, etc. etc. etc. </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Suzanne</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 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type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Open Space Facilitator</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>NuFocus Strategic Group</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>FL 941-359-8877</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cell: 203-722-2009</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.nufocusgroup.com">www.nufocusgroup.com</a> <<a href="http://www.nufocusgroup.com/">http://www.nufocusgroup.com/</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:s.daigle@nufocusgroup.com">s.daigle@nufocusgroup.com</a> <<a href="mailto:s.daigle@nufocusgroup.com">mailto:s.daigle@nufocusgroup.com</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Twitter @Daiglesuz</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Lucas Cioffi via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a> <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi All,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I would be super-excited to hear how folks would design the simplest online Open Space experience using video chat. </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I posted my thoughts below, but I put them further down so that you might have a moment to think about what online OS experience would work best for you, rather than letting my thoughts influence yours.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>My...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>thoughts...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>are...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>down...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>below...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Here are my rough thoughts:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>1. When the event begins you open up a webpage. You can see the following:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>where the opening circle is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>how many virtual breakout spaces there are</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>who is in each virtual space right now</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>what is being discussed now and in the future (a bulletin board / marketplace / idea wall)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>2. Next you choose to enter a space by turning on your video chat.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Note: The following features seem helpful but not necessary:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>3. When you arrive in a space, you see a shared notes area available to all participants.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>4. There is a way to raise your hand to indicate that you'd like to speak.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>5. There is a way to share a quick message such as ("I have to step away for a moment").</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thanks so much for any advice. I look forward to hearing what you have in mind!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Lucas Cioffi</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Founder, QiqoChat</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Charlottesville, VA</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Mobile: 917-528-1831</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 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