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    I got my start in Open Space via BarCamp.<br>
    <br>
    I first heard about FooCamp, wished I could attend, and eventually
    found out I could host my own BarCamp. Others in my state had heard
    about them, and there was some support in my community to initiate
    one in Missoula.<br>
    <br>
    Then the 2007 JavaOne conference in San Francisco included a
    "BarCamp" side track with Kaliya Hamlin facilitating. It was poorly
    attended (about 16 people out of potentially 15,000+), but Kaliya
    invited me to the "Real Thing", her Internet Identity Workshop a few
    days later not too far away (Mountain View). It was a real Open
    Space, and it was there that Kaliya introduced me to Lisa Heft. The
    following winter I took Lisa's training.<br>
    <br>
    But since people already recognized and supported the BarCamp
    "brand", I just ran my BarCamp with true and blue Open Space.
    Opening and closing circles, butterflies, bumblebees, surprises, and
    whenevers/whoevers. We kept the BarCamp moniker for 6 years doing it
    each time as an Open Space. Only the seventh year I was finally able
    to lop off the BarCamp part. (And there was much rejoicing.)<br>
    <br>
    Read the history of BarCamp: <a
      href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconference">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconference</a>.
    It comes from Open Space! The origin story was obscured in the past,
    but now it's out in the open. Sarah Winge organized the first
    FooCamp for O'Reilly based on her experience with OST, <b>AND WITH
      CONVERSATIONS WITH HARRISON OWEN</b>.<br>
    <br>
    However wayward are the children of Open Space - I'm grateful to
    BarCamp (and FooCamp) for launching me into something that has
    totally inspired and invigorated my professional and personal life.
    Thank you BarCamp! May you eventually acknowledge and honor your
    heritage!<br>
    <br>
        Harold<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/24/16 4:47 AM, Barry Owen via
      OSList wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I could write a veritable book about my experiences
        with BarCamp here in nashville, TN in the past 6 years.
        <div><br>
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        <div>It's pseudo self organization at best . . . There's a tip
          of the hat to unconference at the beginning as folks arrive
          and are invited to write down "Things they want to Learn" and
          "things they want to teach".</div>
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        <div>The "organizers" then fill the schedule while the
          participants mingle, and the event starts (as aforementioned)
          with a very brief introduction.</div>
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        <div>Most sessions are "teaching" and not open dialog and many
          are pre-loaded speakers who were specifically invited to come
          with all expenses paid.   </div>
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        <div>my understanding is that BarCamp was initially designed as
          a "Technology Conference" for computer Geeks, so perhaps it
          'works" better with Geeks. Using it for other other purposes
          (Organizational Development/transformation etc) is an
          unintended use of the original format.</div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>So - I think BarCamp serves the intended purpose well - and
          I believe some misguided folks are attempting to plug a square
          hole with a round peg thinking that it's interchangeable with
          OST</div>
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        <div>My 2 cents </div>
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        <div>This ain't Open Space!</div>
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          Bucklow via OSList <span dir="ltr"><<a
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            <div style="word-wrap:break-word">I had never heard of
              BarCamp. I was smiling too as I read Martin’s response. If
              anyone mentions it to me, I will just roll my eyes :-)
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                    <div>On 23 Aug 2016, at 20:51, Eva P Svensson via
                      OSList <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"
                        target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.<wbr>org</a>>
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                      <div style="word-wrap:break-word">Martin,
                        <div>I smile when I read your text - I can
                          almost feel your irritation over comparing OST
                          with Barcamp :-)</div>
                        <div>Thank you all who had answered - I now
                          think that I will not ever say that it’s like
                          OST, but that they had borrowed a few thing
                          but got them backwards…(oops)</div>
                        <div>:o)</div>
                        <div>Eva</div>
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                              <div>23 aug. 2016 kl. 11:42 skrev Martin
                                Roell via OSList <<a
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                                  href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"
                                  target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.<wbr>org</a>>:</div>
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                                <div>Eva P Svensson via OSList wrote:<br>
                                  <blockquote type="cite">Dear friends,<br>
                                    Today I heard a woman talking about
                                    setting up a meeting using BarCamp
                                    as a method. I asked her to explain
                                    to me what it was and when she did
                                    that I had a hard time finding the
                                    differences between that and Open
                                    Space. One thing was that, as she
                                    explained it, the time slots were 45
                                    minutes then 15 minutes pause then
                                    new 45 minutes and so on. Otherwise
                                    it seemed more or less like copy and
                                    paste from Open Space. Anyone who
                                    knows more about it?<br>
                                    :o)<br>
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                                  I have attended a good number of
                                  Barcamps and OST meetings, and I<br>
                                  believe I even vented my frustration
                                  about BarCamps on this list before. :)<br>
                                  <br>
                                  To make a long story short, a few
                                  points of how BarCamps are different.<br>
                                  (This may be just my limited sample of
                                  Barcamps held in Germany in the<br>
                                  last 4 years.)<br>
                                  <br>
                                  * No circle at the beginning<br>
                                  * A ritual "say your name and your
                                  three #tags" instead before things<br>
                                  start (stopping the flow, boring the
                                  hell out of everyone, etc etc)<br>
                                  * When announcing a session, one asks
                                  for a raise of hands to gauge<br>
                                  interest.<br>
                                  * The "Facilitator" then allocates you
                                  a room ("thank you for announcing<br>
                                  your session so cutely. Here's a room
                                  for you.")<br>
                                  * and sometimes STICKS THE PAPER INTO
                                  THE SCHEDULE FOR YOU (you don't<br>
                                  get to choose the room for yourself:
                                  they do it for you!)<br>
                                  * Facilitators generally make looong
                                  remarks about BARCAMP before things<br>
                                  start and ask for a raise of hands,
                                  how many people have attended<br>
                                  BARCAMPS before, and how many (more is
                                  better)<br>
                                  * Facilitators inform people that
                                  BARCAMP is AMAAAAZING because: YOU GET<br>
                                  TO PARTICPATE! WOW!!1 They make the
                                  event more amazing by talking about<br>
                                  how amazing it will be (preventing
                                  anyone from getting to work).<br>
                                  * Much of the butterfly conversation
                                  is about BARCAMP and how AMAZING it
                                  is.<br>
                                  * There is usually no issue, but a
                                  "theme" for the event; what gets<br>
                                  posted are not "issues" but
                                  "sessions". (In the Barcamps I
                                  attended, not<br>
                                  a single session was posted that had a
                                  question mark in it.)<br>
                                  * "Sessions" are often teaching,
                                  delivered by extroverts<br>
                                  <br>
                                  One a more serious note:<br>
                                  Barcamp differs from OST culturally,
                                  in the sense that it is often used<br>
                                  for what I'd call "participatory
                                  teaching / knowledge sharing events":<br>
                                  In Germany, they seem to become
                                  popular with companies now, as a way
                                  to<br>
                                  save education budgets ("our staff can
                                  now share knowledge with<br>
                                  eachother! Using BARCAMP!! ITS CHEAPER
                                  THAN SEMINARS!!!!"), whereas OST<br>
                                  functions... hm, better? more
                                  naturally? - as a problem solving...<br>
                                  thing. Or so.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Or, very simply and more personal:
                                  Everytime I hear someone say<br>
                                  something along "Barcamp is not so
                                  different from Open Space, is it?" I<br>
                                  get quite mad, because I have often
                                  seen amazing things happen in Open<br>
                                  Space events, and never seen anything
                                  amazing happen in BarCamps.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  YMMV.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Martin<br>
                                  <br>
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