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<br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-08-16 20:31 GMT+02:00 Peggy Holman via OSList <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">The term engagement has entered into the world of journalism. About a year ago, someone asked me to define what I thought it meant to journalists. So I created a table with a continuum: <a href="https://medium.com/@PeggyHolman/what-do-journalists-mean-by-engagement-fc70d507d111#.ie194m594" target="_blank">https://medium.com/<wbr>@PeggyHolman/what-do-<wbr>journalists-mean-by-<wbr>engagement-fc70d507d111#.<wbr>ie194m594</a><div><br></div><div>You’ll note something I stumbled across and reference in the table: a spectrum of engagement developed by IAP2 - the International Association for Public Participation. In short, they named five stops on their spectrum: inform, consult, involve, collaborate, empower. I think their hearts are in the right place, though I wouldn’t use the term empower because it implies that someone is actually in a position to give power away. I think it’s more about people remembering the power that they always have should they choose to claim it.</div><div><br></div><div>In any case, I was struck that what I found independently tracked with what they had named. More on their spectrum is <a href="http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.iap2.org/resource/resmgr/imported/IAP2%20Spectrum_vertical.pdf" target="_blank">here</a>.</div><div><br></div><div>Peggy</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Aug 16, 2016, at 6:31 AM, Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.<wbr>org</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div>Reading your messages I have this questions<span> </span><br><br>And what means exactly to engage?<br> For me it is not a Yes or no answer, there are different levels and ways to engage.<span> </span><br>Just being present learning and listening is one of them...<br>Engagement with what exactly? It depends ...and is It normal, if you have never been to an OS to decide first to go just to see what does that look like?<span> </span><br>Or how it works?<span> </span><br>Just curiosity, at the beginning isn'it a first level of engagement?...<br>.And what if the level of trust is not high enough yet in that group?<br><br></div>Adriana<br><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-08-16 8:09 GMT-05:00 Barry Owen via OSList<span> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.<wbr>openspacetech.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Of course, why would they show up if they had no intention to engage?<div><br></div><div>and then there are bumblebees and butterflies who, by appearance, seldom seem to engage (with the group) at a deep level . . . </div><div><br></div><div>yet they do have impact on the experience for everyone . . . </div><div><br></div><div>So it's OK to show and engage - or not.</div><div><br></div><div>I think . . . </div><div><br></div><div>b</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:13px"><b><u>Barry Owen</u></b><br><b><i>Real Estate Strategist</i></b></div><div style="font-size:13px">Founder/Principal Broker<br></div><div style="font-size:13px"><b><font face="arial black,sans-serif">Pareto Realty, LLC </font></b><a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/audio.php?file=bixpar02&word=Pareto&text=%5Cp%C9%99-%3CSPAN%20class%3Dunicode%3E%CB%88%3C%2FSPAN%3Er%C4%81-(%3CSPAN%20class%3Dunicode%3E%CB%8C%3C%2FSPAN%3E)t%C5%8D%5C" style="color:rgb(0,0,204)" target="_blank">\pə-<font face="Lucida Sans Unicode" size="3">ˈ</font>rā-(<font face="Lucida Sans Unicode" size="3">ˌ</font>)tō\</a></div><div style="font-size:13px"><b>The Vital Few</b></div><div style="font-size:13px">4012 Hillsboro Pike #5</div><div style="font-size:13px">Nashville, TN 37215 </div><div style="font-size:13px"><a value="+16155022080" style="color:rgb(0,0,204)">Office: 615-502-2080</a></div><div style="font-size:13px"><span style="font-size:13px">Connect: </span><b style="font-size:13px"><a value="+16155682123" style="color:rgb(0,0,204)">615-568-2123</a></b></div><div style="font-size:13px"><a href="http://twitter.com/#!/barryowen" style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,204)" target="_blank">Twitter</a><span style="font-size:13px">, </span><a href="http://www.facebook.com/barryo06" style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,204)" target="_blank">Facebook</a><span style="font-size:13px">, </span><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=15553654&trk=tab_pro" style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,204)" target="_blank">Linkedin</a></div><div style="font-size:13px"><a href="http://whyjoinparetorealty.com/" target="_blank">WhyJoinParetoRealty.com</a></div><div style="font-size:13px"><a href="http://paretorealty.com/" target="_blank">ParetoRealty.com</a></div><div style="font-size:12.7272720336914px"><b><font size="4"><a href="http://barryowensblog.com/" target="_blank">BarryOwensBlog.com</a></font></b></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 7:59 AM, Dan Mezick via OSList<span> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.<wbr>openspacetech.org</a>></span><span> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Wait. Isnt the entire goal of inviting someone to go somewhere or do sometjing to engage them in the actvity? Perhaps a quick reference check on the definition of /invitation and /engagement might help?</div><div><br></div><div>Do we really want people to show up and not engage or disengage? </div><div><br></div><div><br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Aug 16, 2016, at 4:10 AM, gerardo de luzenberger via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.or<wbr>g</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,51,51)">I guess one important point is the meaning of engagement itself - my personal feeling is that the word engagement incorporates a sort of judgement. Engagement in what? How can you say people is not engaged? And what does it mean engagement? Normally the translation of what a leader calls "lack of engagement" for me is "they are not doing what I think they should do".<br><br></div><div style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,51,51)">I think that the concept of engagement belongs to the traditional form of leadership and it's far away from the kind of leadership that can show up in an open space. It's a different paradigm based as MMP said on self organisation and on the invitation that as HO said is an invitation only if can be can be refused.<span> </span><br></div><div style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,51,51)">ge<br><br></div><div style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,51,51)"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><p><span><span><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:gray" lang="PT"></span></b></span></span></p><p><img alt="" height="78" width="213"><span> </span><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:gray" lang="PT"><img></span></b></p><p><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><b><span style="color:rgb(204,0,0)"><a href="http://www.loci.it/?id=1795&s=2" target="_blank">PRIMA CONFERENZA ITALIANA FACILITATORI - MILANO 20 22 OTTOBRE 2016</a></span></b><br></span></p><p><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;color:gray" lang="PT"></span></b></span></p><p><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;color:gray" lang="PT"></span></b></span><font size="2"><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><span style="color:gray" lang="PT">Office: Via A. Volta 6 - 20121 Milano – Italy<br>Phone:<span> </span><a href="tel:%2B39%203293281343" value="+393293281343" target="_blank">+39 3293281343</a><span> </span>-<span> </span></span><span style="color:gray">Fax:<span> </span><a href="tel:%2B39%2002%2087151318" value="+390287151318" target="_blank">+39 02 87151318</a><span> </span>- Skype: gerardodeluz</span><br></span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,255)"><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><b><a href="mailto:xge@loci.it" target="_blank">xge@loci.it</a></b><span> </span>-<span> </span><b><a href="http://www.loci.it/" target="_blank">www.loci.it</a> </b><span></span><span></span></span><b><span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><span> </span></span><br></span></b></span></font></p><p><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,255)"><b><span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"><img><br></span></b></span></font><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Trebuchet MS';color:gray"></span></p><p><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"><a href="http://www.scuolafacilitazione.it/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:13.5pt" lang="EN-GB"></span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB"></span></p><div><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"></span><span lang="EN-GB"></span><br></div><p><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><b><i><span style="font-size:8pt;color:green" lang="EN-GB">Please consider the environment before deciding to print this e-mail</span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-size:8pt;color:maroon" lang="EN-GB"></span></i></b><span lang="EN-GB"></span></span></p><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"></span><p><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><span style="font-size:8pt;color:gray" lang="EN-GB">This e-mail (and any attachment(s)) is strictly confidential and for use only by intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient(s), please notify it via e-mail at<span> </span></span><a href="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/blocked::mailto:info@loci.it" title="blocked::mailto:info@loci.it" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:8pt;color:gray" lang="EN-GB">info@loci.it</span></a><span style="font-size:8pt;color:gray" lang="EN-GB">promptly</span></span><span lang="EN-GB"></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-08-15 21:36 GMT+02:00 Birgitt Williams via OSList<span> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.<wbr>openspacetech.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Great points about authentic invitation to engage...and cultural differences. To this part of the conversation, I add the concept of 'informed consent'. If I am extended an authentic invitation, and I reflect about whether my energy feels in harmony with it or not, I have a certain amount and quality of information that I need so that I am making an authentic consent to show up and fully engage. What is the information that I need so I can go beyond simply accepting the invitation....to providing informed consent? Even in cultures where there are reprisals for stepping out as an individual, I may choose to participate based on informed consent including of the risks to me.<div><br></div><div>And to Michael's points about self organization...there is a possibility of something that I don't call self organization. Within the enabling conditions created for engagement, there are options for people to feel inspired to access their personal leadership, alignment with the collective vision, sense of being in community with each other and self management. Spirit at work....if through our personal leadership we allow it to be so.</div><div><br></div><div>There is a connection between authentic invitation, informed consent, personal leadership for engagement, and allowing Spirit to do the work of Spirit.</div><div><br></div><div>Warmly,</div><div>Birgitt<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 7:39 AM Bhavesh Patel via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.or<wbr>g</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks all for this conversation.<br><br>"<i>having the conditions for engagement</i>" is definitely about "<i>​an authentic invitation to engage</i>" and I think it is much more than that as well.<span> </span><br><br>For me it brings in the history and experience of the participants, and what sort of experiences they have had. It also brings in culture and what participants are used to. I live/work in a country where taking initiative was a no-no for 60 years. I have also worked in countries where stepping out as an individual is seen as very dangerous.<br><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">So creating the conditions for engagement and personal leadership is a really deep question!<br><br><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Smiles Bhav...<br><br><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 August 2016 at 22:50, Harold Shinsato via OSList<span> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.<wbr>openspacetech.org</a>></span><span> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Thanks Birgitt, Harrison, Eva for this question!<br><br>Engagement is considered very valuable. There's been an annual gallup poll around U.S. employee engagement levels, and the latest one shows it's only 32%. They're participating as employees, but they're not really showing up.<span> </span><a href="http://www.gallup.com/poll/188144/employee-engagement-stagnant-2015.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.gallup.com/<wbr>poll/188144/employee-<wbr>engagement-stagnant-2015.aspx</a><br><br>Gallup has estimated the cost of this lack of engagement is "$450 billion to $550 billion in lost productivity per year".<span> </span><a href="http://www.gallup.com/businessjournal/162953/tackle-employees-stagnating-engagement.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.gallup.com/<wbr>businessjournal/162953/tackle-<wbr>employees-stagnating-<wbr>engagement.aspx</a><br><br>I'm not the origin of this story, and I doubt it really started with the formal use of Open Space in bringing Agile practices into software organizations (thank you Daniel Mezick!), but engagement is really considered critical in getting a successful and lasting shift towards agile processes and an agile mindset.<br><br>Although Open Space doesn't guarantee engagement, it does prevent a critical factor in this lack of engagement. Which is enforced participation. Open Space helps show how space actually is open for people to step forward for what they love as an act of service (thank you Peggy Holman for showing me this way of thinking about Open Space).<br><br>Unless we offer<span> </span><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">​​</div>an authentic invitation to engage, one that is welcoming as well as being an invitation we can safely decline, the most we can get is their butts into the room. We won't get their hearts.<br><br>Can we coerce engagement? Full engagement? My sense is no. Maybe we can trick people, but engagement by fraud isn't real engagement.<br><br>   <span> </span>Harold<div><div><br><br><div>On 8/10/16 10:05 AM, Eva P Svensson via OSList wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite">Hi Birgitt and al,<div>great distinction, I so often experience that there are great engagement in an Open Space Technology meeting and also in the follow up meeting afterwards but when it comes to action planning people suddenly start to look down, the voices becomes more silent etc and it’s difficult to get the energy for actions.</div><div>I will here after talk about both participation and engagement and what that means for the participants and the sponsors.</div><div>:o)</div><div>Eva<br><div><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Corbel;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div style="font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><br><span style="font-size:14px">Bästa hälsningar</span></span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:14px"></span></div><p style="font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p><div style="font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:'Lucida Handwriting';color:rgb(31,73,125)">Eva P Svensson</span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"></span></div><p style="font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p><div style="font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px"><b><span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',sans-serif;color:olive">EPS Human Invest AB</span></b></div><div style="font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px"><b><i><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Trebuchet MS',sans-serif;color:olive">Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc</span></i></b></div><div style="font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px"><b><i><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Trebuchet MS',sans-serif;color:olive">Medlem i Beyond Performance Group</span></i></b></div><p style="font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p><div style="font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px"><i><span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',sans-serif;color:olive">"Verksamhetsutveckling genom människor skapar långsiktigt välmående företag och organisationer"</span></i><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"></span><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"MsoNormal">Dear friends and colleagues,</p><div><p class="MsoNormal">One important question is "do you want to participate?". Hence participatory methods.</p></div><div><div> <br></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Another important question is "do you want to engage?".  A totally different question with a different energy, both in its inquiry and its answer.</p></div><div><div> <br></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The question that we align ourselves with as facilitators makes a substantial difference in our approach. I am wondering about the impact on our outcomes.</p></div><div><div> <br></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Make a great day!</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Birgitt</p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr">--<span> </span><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-size:14pt"> </span><br></div><div><span style="font-size:14pt"> </span><br></div><div><span style="font-size:14pt"> </span><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">Birgitt Williams</span></p><div><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">President & Senior Consultant of Dalar International Consultancy, Inc.<span> </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.dalarinternational.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt">http://www.dalarinternational.<wbr>com</span></a><span style="font-size:10pt"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">Co-founder of the Extraordinary Leadership Network<span> </span></span><a href="http://www.extraordinaryleadershipnetwork.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt">http://www.<wbr>extraordinaryleadershipnetwork<wbr>.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10pt"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">Co-founder of the Genuine Contact™program and author of The Genuine Contact Way: Nourishing a Culture of Leadership <span> </span></span><a href="http://www.genuinecontactway.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt">http://www.<wbr>genuinecontactway.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10pt">         <wbr>         </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">Co-owner of the Genuine Contact Co-owners Group Ltd.<span> </span></span><a href="http://www.genuinecontact.net/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt">http://www.<wbr>genuinecontact.net</span></a><span style="font-size:10pt"></span></p><div><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:10pt">Supporting leadership development for leading in a culture requiring agility and flexibility in a performance environment of constant change.</span></i></b></p><div><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">Leadership development at your own pace? Become a member of the Extraordinary Leadership Network<span> </span></span><a href="http://www.extraordinaryleadershipnetwork.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt">http://www.<wbr>extraordinaryleadershipnetwork<wbr>.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10pt"><span> </span>to participate in an online leadership development program designed to increase the leadership skills and capacity you need to perform in a performance environment of constant change.<span> </span></span></p><div><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span><br></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">PO Box 19373, Raleigh, North Carolina, USA 27619</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">phone:<span> </span><a href="tel:1-919-522-7750" value="+19195227750" target="_blank">1-919-522-7750</a></span></p></div></div></div></div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to<span> </span><a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">OSList@lists.openspacetech.<wbr>org</a><br>To unsubscribe send an email to<span> </span><a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">OSList-leave@lists.<wbr>openspacetech.org</a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org<wbr>/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspace<wbr>tech.org</a><br>Past archives can be viewed here:<span> </span><a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.<wbr>com/oslist@lists.<wbr>openspacetech.org</a></div></blockquote></div><br></div><br><fieldset></fieldset><br><pre>______________________________<wbr>_________________
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