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<br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-08-15 21:36 GMT+02:00 Birgitt Williams via OSList <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Great points about authentic invitation to engage...and cultural differences. To this part of the conversation, I add the concept of 'informed consent'. If I am extended an authentic invitation, and I reflect about whether my energy feels in harmony with it or not, I have a certain amount and quality of information that I need so that I am making an authentic consent to show up and fully engage. What is the information that I need so I can go beyond simply accepting the invitation....to providing informed consent? Even in cultures where there are reprisals for stepping out as an individual, I may choose to participate based on informed consent including of the risks to me.<div><br></div><div>And to Michael's points about self organization...there is a possibility of something that I don't call self organization. Within the enabling conditions created for engagement, there are options for people to feel inspired to access their personal leadership, alignment with the collective vision, sense of being in community with each other and self management. Spirit at work....if through our personal leadership we allow it to be so.</div><div><br></div><div>There is a connection between authentic invitation, informed consent, personal leadership for engagement, and allowing Spirit to do the work of Spirit.</div><div><br></div><div>Warmly,</div><div>Birgitt<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 7:39 AM Bhavesh Patel via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.<wbr>org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks all for this conversation.<br><br>"<i>having the conditions for engagement</i>" is definitely about "<i>an authentic invitation to engage</i>" and I think it is much more than that as well. <br><br>For me it brings in the history and experience of the participants, and what sort of experiences they have had. It also brings in culture and what participants are used to. I live/work in a country where taking initiative was a no-no for 60 years. I have also worked in countries where stepping out as an individual is seen as very dangerous.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">So creating the conditions for engagement and personal leadership is a really deep question!<br><br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Smiles Bhav...<br><br><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 August 2016 at 22:50, Harold Shinsato via OSList <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.<wbr>org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Thanks Birgitt, Harrison, Eva for this question!<br>
<br>
Engagement is considered very valuable. There's been an annual
gallup poll around U.S. employee engagement levels, and the latest
one shows it's only 32%. They're participating as employees, but
they're not really showing up. <a href="http://www.gallup.com/poll/188144/employee-engagement-stagnant-2015.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.gallup.com/poll/<wbr>188144/employee-engagement-<wbr>stagnant-2015.aspx</a><br>
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Gallup has estimated the cost of this lack of engagement is "$450
billion to $550 billion in lost productivity per year". <a href="http://www.gallup.com/businessjournal/162953/tackle-employees-stagnating-engagement.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.gallup.com/<wbr>businessjournal/162953/tackle-<wbr>employees-stagnating-<wbr>engagement.aspx</a><br>
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I'm not the origin of this story, and I doubt it really started with
the formal use of Open Space in bringing Agile practices into
software organizations (thank you Daniel Mezick!), but engagement is
really considered critical in getting a successful and lasting shift
towards agile processes and an agile mindset.<br>
<br>
Although Open Space doesn't guarantee engagement, it does prevent a
critical factor in this lack of engagement. Which is enforced
participation. Open Space helps show how space actually is open for
people to step forward for what they love as an act of service
(thank you Peggy Holman for showing me this way of thinking about
Open Space).<br>
<br>
Unless we offer <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline"></div>an authentic invitation to engage, one that is
welcoming as well as being an invitation we can safely decline, the
most we can get is their butts into the room. We won't get their
hearts.<br>
<br>
Can we coerce engagement? Full engagement? My sense is no. Maybe we
can trick people, but engagement by fraud isn't real engagement.<br>
<br>
Harold<div><div><br>
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<div>On 8/10/16 10:05 AM, Eva P Svensson via
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Hi Birgitt and al,
<div>great distinction, I so often experience that there
are great engagement in an Open Space Technology meeting and
also in the follow up meeting afterwards but when it comes to
action planning people suddenly start to look down, the voices
becomes more silent etc and it’s difficult to get the energy for
actions.</div>
<div>I will here after talk about both participation and
engagement and what that means for the participants and the
sponsors.</div>
<div>:o)</div>
<div>Eva<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Harrison...one of the aspects
of you that I love is that when you participate, you
engage.
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<div>I witness many people participating
and appearing engaged. And yet upon probing after
a participatory meeting, engagement was not
sufficient to create follow on action. I feel that
this distinction between having a participatory
meeting and having the conditions for engagement
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<div>Blessings,</div>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Birgitt
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear friends and
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<p class="MsoNormal">One important
question is "do you want to
participate?". Hence participatory
methods.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Another important
question is "do you want to
engage?". A totally different
question with a different energy,
both in its inquiry and its answer.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The question that
we align ourselves with as
facilitators makes a substantial
difference in our approach. I am
wondering about the impact on our
outcomes.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">Birgitt
Williams</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">President
& Senior
Consultant of Dalar International Consultancy,
Inc. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.dalarinternational.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt">http://www.dalarinternational.<wbr>com</span></a><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">Co-founder
of the
Extraordinary Leadership Network </span><a href="http://www.extraordinaryleadershipnetwork.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt">http://www.<wbr>extraordinaryleadershipnetwork<wbr>.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">Co-founder
of the
Genuine Contact™program and author of The
Genuine Contact Way: Nourishing a
Culture of Leadership </span><a href="http://www.genuinecontactway.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt">http://www.genuinecontactway.<wbr>com</span></a><span style="font-size:10pt">
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">Co-owner of
the Genuine
Contact Co-owners Group Ltd. </span><a href="http://www.genuinecontact.net/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt">http://www.genuinecontact.net</span></a><span style="font-size:10pt"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:10pt">Supporting
leadership
development for leading in a culture
requiring agility and flexibility in a
performance environment of constant
change.</span></i></b></p>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">Leadership
development
at your own pace? Become a member of the
Extraordinary Leadership Network </span><a href="http://www.extraordinaryleadershipnetwork.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt">http://www.<wbr>extraordinaryleadershipnetwork<wbr>.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10pt"> to
participate in an online leadership
development program designed to increase the
leadership skills and capacity you
need to perform in a performance environment
of constant change. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">PO Box
19373, Raleigh,
North Carolina, USA 27619</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">phone:
<a href="tel:1-919-522-7750" value="+19195227750" target="_blank">1-919-522-7750</a></span></p>
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