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Hi Birgitt,<br>
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Thanks for your feedback. I'm enjoying using the "given" concept on
the OSList, though I consider it less of a given, or rule, and
hopefully more an invitation to initiate lots of awesome threads
around each question or set of questions.<br>
<br>
We really could use help invigorating the mission of the OSI-US, and
at least we'd like to experiment with the idea that questions might
be more powerful than answers. I'm hoping you'll accept my
invitation to generate questions, but not consider it at all or in
any way to discourage folks from offering answers. But hopefully
you'll allow some space... just in a subject line... for questions.<br>
<br>
And... that said... to paraphrase boisterously... whatever
happens... is....<br>
<br>
I'm extraordinarily happy you're having fun. And let the fun
proceed!<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
Harold<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/19/16 12:20 PM, Birgitt Williams
via OSList wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Harold,
<div>You offered such a wonderful example of a 'given' that was
not initially expressed and then came in with it
later---something that can reduce or close a space when that
happens. You opened space for inputs for the purpose of
helping the Mission of the OS Institute US. By our nature and
the freedom we experience in OST, those of us following the
thread get inspired to respond to the questions...so far
Harrison, Chris and myself have done so. Personally, I
initially thought 'why questions?' and 'will this inspire
me?'. And then as I saw the questions coming in, I wanted to
jump in and answer as the very nature of some of the questions
are provocative and if left unanswered, could incorrectly
convey an opinion or conclusion. I was absolutely fascinated
and I thought "Harold is so brilliant in asking for
questions....this is the most fun I have had on the list in a
long time, like having a whole buffet menu of topics to zero
in on and contribute my thoughts to". Now, I am quite curious
if we will stay within this new 'given' or just follow our
inspiration.</div>
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<div>Thank you for a fascinating experience,</div>
<div>Birgitt<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 2:10 PM Chris
Corrigan via OSList <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>(But sometimes where ever it happens is the right
place…:-) )</div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
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<div>Chris</div>
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<div>On Jul 19, 2016, at 2:06 PM, Harold Shinsato
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi Chris,<br>
<br>
Since the thread is about helping the OSI-US
find "mission questions", rather than
answering the questions, I would encourage and
invite you to reflect on these questions in
separate threads to make the reflections
easier to see and connect with via the subject
line.<br>
<br>
I look forward to your reflections!<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
Harold</div>
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<div>On 7/19/16 11:13 AM, Chris Corrigan
wrote:<br>
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<div>I like your questions Paul. They’re
interesting! Can I add some reflections on
them? </div>
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<div>On Jul 19, 2016, at 7:06 AM, paul
levy via OSList <<a
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<div>Harold
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<div> A few more questions ...</div>
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<div>Warm wishes </div>
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<div>Paul</div>
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<div>Why are we still calling OST a
technology ?</div>
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<div>Still called a technology because
it’s cheeky. That’s my take anyway.</div>
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<div>Why is the LAW of two feel a
law ?</div>
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Law because, like the law of gravity it
seems to be fundamentally inviolable. So
it’s helpful to acknowledge it. You
could probably acknowledge the law of
gravity too, if you wanted to remind
people not to drop their stuff. But at
least acknowledging the law of mobility
helps people understand why folks wander
off during sessions.</div>
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<div>If the "principles" are not
prescriptions but descriptions why
are they called principles ?</div>
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<div>Principles don’t have to be
prescriptive to be principles. These
four principles seem to capture four
things (or five) that work about open
space. They are provocative and
interesting and disruptive to normal
meeting procedures. And I have done
many Open Space meetings without
talking about them at all. </div>
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<div>How can it possibly take 2 days
to <span></span>"teach"</div>
<div>OST and why would anyone ever
want to teach it anyway ?</div>
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<div>It doesn’t take two days to “teach"
Open Space Technology. But to spend
two days with other practitioners who
are learning, thinking about, and
trading ideas on using OST seems to
accelerate people’s practice and use
of the process and the underlying view
of the world that it encapsulates.</div>
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<div>Open Space Technology is not
“teacheable” but it is learnable.
How’s that for a provocative
proposition?</div>
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<div>Why do OST "elders" on the
OS list keep advocating dogmatic
views about OST? (Oh yes you do)</div>
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<div>Who are these “elders" of which you
speak?</div>
<div><br>
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<div>What if one less thing to do
was facilitation ?</div>
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<div>Yup.</div>
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<div>How could OSI begin a humble
inquiry into new and valuable ways
of opening space? And learn from
them ?</div>
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This is a really great question.
Juanita Brown has convened a
conversation on “the central garden” of
participatory methods that is just such
a humble inquiry. So humble that it has
been approached slowly and quietly, and
I’m sure she would welcome many others
joining. She’s been at it for a while: <a
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href="http://www.theworldcafe.com/more-from-juanita-brown/"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.theworldcafe.com/more-from-juanita-brown/">http://www.theworldcafe.com/more-from-juanita-brown/</a></a><br>
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<div>What questions do we need to
ask that cannot be formed into
latinised words and phrases ?</div>
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<div>This one:</div>
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<div>Where is open space technology
when the world needs to open space
most - right now ?</div>
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<div>It is right here where it has
always been. And I think there is a
lot of space being opened in the world
right now, in all kinds of ways. </div>
<div><br>
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<div>Opening space is not a guarantee of
peace and good times. When space opens
so too does authentic human voice.
People that have been silent claim
sound. People that have been displaced
look for a new home. People that have
been backed into corners clamp down on
control and fear. Does the world need
open space most now? Or has open space
given us the world we live in now?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We have no guarantee of safety in
this world. And when space open for
some, others who didn’t ever realize
they were taking up so much, suddenly
start getting quite worried. It’s
nice to imagine the tables being
turned over, unless one of the tables
is mine. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Chris</div>
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