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"Opening space for fascism" I can understand and experience as a
non-starter. Does censoring speech increase of decrease liberty? If
speech was not censored, would Trump have any traction at all? The
latter question is difficult to answer, the former is not. <br>
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For the record, I do not currently engage in electoral politics
whatsoever and therefore do not support Mr. Trump, or anyone else,
for any office, anywhere. Something about legitimate authority and
it dependency on legitimate consent:<br>
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Voluntaryists are advocates of non-political, non-violent strategies
to achieve a free society. We reject <a
href="http://voluntaryist.com/nonvoting/index.html">electoral
politics</a>, in theory and in practice. Governments must cloak
their actions in an aura of moral legitimacy in order to sustain
their power, and political methods invariably strengthen that
legitimacy. Voluntaryists seek instead to <b>delegitimize the State</b>
through <a href="http://voluntaryist.com/articles/040.html">education</a>,
and <b>we advocate withdrawal of the cooperation and tacit consent</b>
on which State power ultimately depends.<br>
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See also: Is Voting an Act of Violence?
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/9/15 4:55 PM, Jeff Aitken wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CANNDQeaoBE8UD3s2Ztg8M3X44B1UUZs+gaEZq=e8TE6raPvzgw@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<p dir="ltr">I hear you Daniel. There are needs not being
addressed, and here's a guy saying he will address them.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I don't share the perspective that Mr. Trump's
rhetoric has not been openly shared for years in the public
square. Unless Fox News and several allied websites and radio
talk shows are not considered to be the public square.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I see a difference between censorship and the fact
that these ideas have not gained traction in a large majority of
the US American public. Maybe they are just bad ideas, stoking
the fears of a shrinking portion of the electorate. </p>
<p dir="ltr">I imagine it's a relief and exciting to his
supporters to hear a US presidential candidate speak them on the
campaign trail. Except that other candidates have done so in
this and previous US elections. He's better at it as a
personality, sure. Maybe that's key.</p>
<p dir="ltr">He is being more provocative than ever these days,
and perhaps opening space for fascism is indeed bringing
something out of the shadows that will eventually have a healthy
outcome when it is defeated soundly, and its adherents open
their hearts to the Others who have been demonized.</p>
<p dir="ltr">(One of my former colleagues hosts space for children
of Nazis and children of Holocaust survivors to reconcile the
historical trauma. Very powerful.)</p>
<p dir="ltr">But inciting supporters to physically attack people
across the continent is way more like closing space than opening
it.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Thanks for the conversation - perhaps we will find
common ground at some point.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Jeff</p>
<p dir="ltr">I wonder if I am not such a good communicator. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Setting aside the topic of the uninviting and
unlovely for a moment, let us return to the issue of suppression
and repression of thoughts which want legitimate expression.
"Closed space" suppresses. And represses. And OPPRESSES. In this
case, there is suppression and repression and OPPRESSION of
conversations that want to happen, apparently. Guessing.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Is this the entire source of energy-- the "fuel"--
for the so-called "space invader" Mr. Trump? </p>
<p dir="ltr"><i>Pretend</i>, just for the moment, that what I am
about to say is true....<br>
</p>
<p dir="ltr">(Please prepare to pretend. And go there. Pretend. If
you cannot go there now, you are not advised to scroll further
at this time.)<br>
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<p dir="ltr"><HERETICAL EXPRESSION OF THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS><br>
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<p dir="ltr"><HISTRIONIC RANT><br>
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<p dir="ltr">Mr. Trump is OPENING some space, to discuss and
OPENLY question: borders, boundaries, illegal immigration,
globalist trade with China, etc. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Apparently, many in the electorate are approving
(authorizing) these conversations as offered by Mr. Trump,
conversations that have not found any quarter, no space
whatsoever for uncensored and legitimately open expression in
the public square. The term censorship comes to mind. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Perhaps space has been closed around the discussion
of these difficult topics for so very long, that what Mr. Trump
is doing, besides being quite obnoxious, also quite refreshing
to many people who are happy to see their thoughts and feelings
and ideas and concerns expressed in SOME way the public square.
Mr. Trump resonates. How is this so? Such a situation seemed
impossible just a few short months ago.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Perhaps Mr. Trump is accessing the deep shadow energy
that results from an unrelenting and constant suppression and
"repression of expression" around difficult issues. Closed
space.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Mr. Trump seems to be accessing what has unwisely
been suppressed and repressed. </p>
<p dir="ltr"><i><b>How is this even possible if the marketplace of
ideas is legitimately open for business?</b></i> </p>
<p dir="ltr">And so I conclude that Mr. Trump is OPENING space.
Yes, he is being violent. Yes he is being obnoxious. Set that
aside for now. <br>
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<p dir="ltr">As an exercise, imagine an outrageously obnoxious
Open Space called by Mr. Trump, on the Mall in DC. </p>
<p dir="ltr">The theme is<b> MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN: IN SERVICE
TO WHAT</b></p>
<p dir="ltr">Hmm, all the conditions for a good Open Space appear
to be present. </p>
<p dir="ltr">I wonder what kind of experience my ensue, who and
how many might show up to question that slogan, defend that
slogan, discuss "what it means," etc. </p>
<p dir="ltr">As it stands, the space is closed, so let's not go
there. More dark energy thus created. Advantage Trump.<br>
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<p dir="ltr"></HISTRIONIC RANT></p>
<p dir="ltr"></HERETICAL EXPRESSION OF THOUGHTS AND
FEELINGS><br>
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<p dir="ltr">On 12/9/15 2:27 PM, Jeff Aitken wrote:<br>
</p>
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<p dir="ltr">><br>
> Hey Daniel, I don't think Mr. Trump has any problem
finding his breakout in the open space of the contemporary
world. I find the issue exactly to be that he wishes to close
off the space to others.<br>
><br>
> He's being a space invader. How do you handle a space
invader? Maybe if we both gave him a big hug.<br>
><br>
> Jeff</p>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> I wonder if I am not such
a good communicator. <br>
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Setting aside the topic of the uninviting and unlovely for a
moment, let us return to the issue of suppression and
repression of thoughts which want legitimate expression.
"Closed space" suppresses. And represses. And OPPRESSES. In
this case, there is suppression and repression and OPPRESSION
of conversations that want to happen, apparently. Guessing.<br>
<br>
Is this the entire source of energy-- the "fuel"-- for the
so-called "space invader" Mr. Trump? <br>
<br>
<i>Pretend</i>, just for the moment, that what I am about to
say is true....<br>
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(Please prepare to pretend. And go there. Pretend. If you
cannot go there now, you are not advised to scroll further at
this time.)<br>
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<HERETICAL EXPRESSION OF THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS><br>
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<HISTRIONIC RANT><br>
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Mr. Trump is OPENING some space, to discuss and OPENLY
question: borders, boundaries, illegal immigration, globalist
trade with China, etc. <br>
<br>
Apparently, many in the electorate are approving (authorizing)
these conversations as offered by Mr. Trump, conversations
that have not found any quarter, no space whatsoever for
uncensored and legitimately open expression in the public
square. The term censorship comes to mind. <br>
<br>
Perhaps space has been closed around the discussion of these
difficult topics for so very long, that what Mr. Trump is
doing, besides being quite obnoxious, also quite refreshing to
many people who are happy to see their thoughts and feelings
and ideas and concerns expressed in SOME way the public
square. Mr. Trump resonates. How is this so? Such a situation
seemed impossible just a few short months ago.<br>
<br>
Perhaps Mr. Trump is accessing the deep shadow energy that
results from an unrelenting and constant suppression and
"repression of expression" around difficult issues. Closed
space.<br>
<br>
Mr. Trump seems to be accessing what has unwisely been
suppressed and repressed. <br>
<br>
<b><i>How is this even possible if the marketplace of ideas is
legitimately open for business? </i></b><br>
<br>
And so I conclude that Mr. Trump is OPENING space. Yes, he is
being violent. Yes he is being obnoxious. Set that aside for
now. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
As an exercise, imagine an outrageously obnoxious Open Space
called by Mr. Trump, on the Mall in DC. <br>
<br>
The theme is <b>MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN: IN SERVICE TO WHAT</b><br>
<br>
Hmm, all the conditions for a good Open Space appear to be
present. <br>
<br>
I wonder what kind of experience my ensue, who and how many
might show up to question that slogan, defend that slogan,
discuss "what it means," etc. <br>
<br>
As it stands, the space is closed, so let's not go there. More
dark energy thus created. Advantage Trump.<br>
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</HISTRIONIC RANT><br>
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</HERETICAL EXPRESSION OF THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS><br>
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<div>On 12/9/15 2:27 PM, Jeff Aitken wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<p dir="ltr">Hey Daniel, I don't think Mr. Trump has any
problem finding his breakout in the open space of the
contemporary world. I find the issue exactly to be that he
wishes to close off the space to others.</p>
<p dir="ltr">He's being a space invader. How do you handle a
space invader? Maybe if we both gave him a big hug.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Jeff</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 9, 2015 11:10 AM, "Daniel
Mezick via OSList" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"
target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Are we to invite
only those who are inviting? <i>Only</i> those who
are lovely? <br>
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If we invite the uninviting and love the unlovely, the
rest is up to them. <br>
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Is it not? <br>
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Isn't that how opening space actually goes?<br>
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Daniel <br>
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PS See also: <br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performative_contradiction"
target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performative_contradiction</a><br>
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<div>On 12/9/15 1:30 PM, Jan Höglund via OSList wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Well, who does Donal Trump invite?
Not Muslims obviously.<br>
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I just read "Talking to the Enemy" by Scott Atran
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/14848338-talking-to-the-enemy"
target="_blank">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/14848338-talking-to-the-enemy</a><br>
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Yes, it's about opening space...<br>
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I'll write a book review some day.<br>
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/Jan<br>
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 09:49:23 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [OSList] Open Space wherever,
however, whenever, with whomever as often as you
can<br>
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Wait. Is Donald Trump invited? His ideas? <br>
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Are those who have thus far repressed similar
thoughts and feelings as expressed by
Trump...are they also invited?<br>
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Because: if he is not, if they are not, if those
ideas are not, then: the space that is
purportedly open is in fact closed.<br>
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VERY closed.<br>
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Perhaps this dynamic is what causing Trump's
various expressions to resonate? Perhaps this
dynamic is in fact energizing Trump's campaign?<br>
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href="http://www.trans4mind.com/jamesharveystout/repress.htm"
target="_blank">http://www.trans4mind.com/jamesharveystout/repress.htm</a><br>
Repression. It is similar to suppression in that
a thought or feeling or emotion is not expressed
-- but in repression, we deny that the element
even exists. <br>
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<div>On 12/8/15 7:48 AM, Harrison Owen via
OSList wrote:<br>
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<div>
<p>“Donald Trump calls for ‘total’ ban on
Muslims entering United States” </p>
<p>(Washington Post 12/8/15)</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Donald Trump has said what some people
here in the USA (and elsewhere in the
world) have also been saying and feeling.
These are the words of fear. Unfortunately
they are also the words of a demagogue,
seeking to play upon the fears of others.
That there is danger is clear, but an
infinitely greater danger is that we
sacrifice our essential humanity to our
fear. Sealing our borders, closing our
doors and windows... we close our space.
And while it may appear safer, that is an
allusion. Life cannot be lived without
space to live in. We are no exception.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Recently we have been celebrating the
warmth and depth of this global community.
It is a wonder. But the beauty of this
community is not an inherent gift, I
believe. Rather it is the reflection of
what we do. Opening Space. Opening space
is not magic. We did not invent it. It is
not even complicated. At root level it is
simply inviting people to be fully who and
what they are, to greet each other and to
enjoy the space. We can do it. We can
invite others to do it. And now is the
time.</p>
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<p>Harrison </p>
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