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    Greeting All!<br>
    <br>
    Hmm, I wonder if the current degree of openness in a group totally,
    100% emergent, or gated by certain "fixed" factors, or is defined by
    some combination of the two, or is defined some other way I am aware
    of right now.<br>
    <br>
    Daniel <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/10/15 3:31 AM, Carmela Ariza via
      OSList wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
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                </style> I think opening space is about opening the mind
      and even the heart. 
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>So it is possible to say that in a certain moment the space
        or mind is close.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>And in other instances the space or mind is open or has been
        opened.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>This can refer to the collective space or collective
        mind/heart - which may be open or close to varying degrees. </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>The closing May also mean that the space or mind has zeroed
        in or has focused or has settled. </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>In this sense closing is not at all negative. It is just a
        process that is necessary when we are opening spaces or minds. </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>The closing or settling down of the space or mind and heart
        is an opening of space or mind/heart. </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>They belong together. One cannot be without the other.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>These are my thoughts for now. </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Have a wonderful opening and closing of spaces today! </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Abundant blessings to all!</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Carms<br>
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        <p style="font-size: 15px; color: #715FFA; padding-top: 0;
          margin-top: 0">On Tuesday, November 10, 2015, 9:09 AM, Michael
          M Pannwitz via OSList <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org></a>
          wrote:</p>
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            class="msgSandbox" style="padding: 1.5em 0.5em 0.5em 1.2em;
            word-wrap: break-word;">Going for a walk is a pretty good
            way to expand space, or as some say, <br>
            make more space... going for a walk is in some ways similar
            to taking a <br>
            break and there are stories around the origin of OST
            emerging from <br>
            breaks...<br>
            <br>
            lets all have some more space today<br>
            greetings from Berlin<br>
            mmp<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            On 09.11.2015 23:36, Jeff Aitken via OSList wrote:<br>
            > I guess the research here is whether the process called
            Open Space<br>
            > Technology is sufficient to enable a successful
            experience of Open<br>
            > Space. They are two distinct 'things' so to speak.<br>
            ><br>
            > So far, the survey says mostly yes. And lots of
            learning about pre-work<br>
            > etc, and convergence design etc. With the intent to
            minimize the<br>
            > 'control, denigration' etc that Jon notes.<br>
            ><br>
            > One 'distraction' failure i found was an informal group
            of 15 who posted<br>
            > tons of topics and found no good way to choose how to
            address them.<br>
            > Usually in this kind of agenda, combining topics makes
            sense of it, but<br>
            > on this day twas all a jumble. We all went for a walk
            instead, and in<br>
            > that sense a success emerged from the ashes.<br>
            ><br>
            > Jeff<br>
            ><br>
            > On Nov 9, 2015 1:58 PM, "Jon Jorgensen via OSList"<br>
            > <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            > wrote:<br>
            ><br>
            >    I don't know what the person in Dan's story actually
            was referring<br>
            >    to, but I have a hunch that they were referring to
            the fact that, as<br>
            >    far as science can tell, there is no amount of
            physical space that<br>
            >    is entirely occupied with physical particles (of the
            sub-atomic<br>
            >    persuasion or otherwise) with no space in between
            them, and<br>
            >    conversely we can guess that there is no amount of
            space that is<br>
            >    completely void of particles.  (This can only be
            confirmed as the<br>
            >    frontier of science continues to go deeper below the
            atomic level.)<br>
            ><br>
            >    So, if this is true, then we can say that in the
            physical realm,<br>
            >    there is no totally open space and no totally closed
            space; only<br>
            >    relative degrees between the 2 extremes as we scale
            or descale our<br>
            >    frame of reference (or "Container" to borrow a
            metaphor from the HSD<br>
            >    model.)<br>
            ><br>
            >    It gets even more interesting as we apply this axiom
            to the<br>
            >    cognitive realm, which is to say that if we cannot
            be absolute in<br>
            >    holding space open, then how much is enough or not
            enough to suit<br>
            >    our purposes?  I believe that our results will tell
            us, and the<br>
            >    amount may vary depending on the theme, setting and
            event attendees.<br>
            ><br>
            >    How much distraction is endurable, while still
            allowing growth,<br>
            >    creativity and transformation?<br>
            >    How much external control, denigration of
            individuals, conflict and<br>
            >    anxiety is enough to nip these fruits of open space
            in the bud?<br>
            ><br>
            >    Aren't these the things which the facilitator
            endeavors to hold at<br>
            >    bay, to create a clearing for something new to
            sprout and flourish<br>
            >    within?<br>
            ><br>
            >    We would need some failed attempts at Opening Space,
            which were<br>
            >    markedly unfruitful, to demonstrate such a threshold
            (how much or<br>
            >    how little is enough) to answer these questions.<br>
            ><br>
            >    Now, that sounds like an unpleasant experiment to
            design and<br>
            >    conduct.  However, if anybody has inadvertently
            stumbled on the<br>
            >    answer, I would love to learn vicariously.<br>
            ><br>
            >    Till then, let us also say, "There is no such thing
            as fully closed<br>
            >    space."<br>
            ><br>
            >    Jon Jorgensen<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
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            >            1. Re: There is no such thing as open space
            (Jeff Aitken via<br>
            >        OSList)<br>
            >            2. Re: There is no such thing as open space<br>
            >                (Harrison Owen via OSList)<br>
            >            3. Re: There is no such thing as open space<br>
            >                (Jaime Pedreros Fitzgerald via OSList)<br>
            >            4. The OSLIST Poetry Contest is Open (Lucas
            Cioffi via OSList)<br>
            >            5. research (Hege Steinsland via OSList)<br>
            >            6. Mercedes China (Harrison Owen via OSList)<br>
            >            7. Re: Mercedes China (Mikk Sarv via OSList)<br>
            >            8. Re: Mercedes China (Skye Hirst via
            OSList)<br>
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            >        Message: 1<br>
            >        Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 13:21:18 -0800<br>
            >        From: Jeff Aitken via OSList <<a
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            >        Subject: Re: [OSList] There is no such thing as
            open space<br>
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            >        I like the term 'opening space' --  endeavoring
            that the space<br>
            >        be a little<br>
            >        (or lot) more open than before.<br>
            ><br>
            >        Maybe the practice is a lifelong one, of opening
            the space a bit<br>
            >        more in<br>
            >        each cycle of day, week, month, or year, etc.<br>
            ><br>
            >        Really deep folks might tell us when the space
            will be<br>
            >        completely open<br>
            >        again - in a zillion years - or maybe in this
            moment?<br>
            ><br>
            >        Jeff<br>
            >        Lagunitas, California<br>
            >        On Nov 8, 2015 10:24 AM, "Barry Owen via OSList"
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            >          > Yes!<br>
            >          > It's all relative . . .<br>
            >          ><br>
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            >          >> Someone I love said to me "Pffft.
            There's no such thing as<br>
            >        open space."<br>
            >          >><br>
            >          >> I added, "Hmm. So there is no such
            thing as open space? only<br>
            >        closed<br>
            >          >> space?......opened to varying
            degrees?"<br>
            >          >><br>
            >          >> And she said "Yes. Yup. That's it."<br>
            >          >><br>
            >          >> Hmm. No such thing as "100% open"
            space... I wonder about<br>
            >        this. I also<br>
            >          >> wonder if you might want to comment
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            >          >><br>
            >          >> Is the "no such thing as open space"
            idea heresy-in-fact?<br>
            >          >><br>
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            >        Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2015 18:39:44 -0500<br>
            >        From: Harrison Owen via OSList <<a
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            >        Subject: Re: [OSList] There is no such thing as
            open space<br>
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            >        I like that Jeff! Having just returned from the
            land of the ?Tao<br>
            >        te Ching? ... where following The Way leads to
            nothingness.<br>
            >        Clearly, real open space happens when you stop
            working so<br>
            >        hard... or something.<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            >        After 5 wonderful days with colleagues in
            Beijing, I find myself<br>
            >        smiling as the jet lag recedes. For a gift I
            brought my friends<br>
            >        a copy of Chris Corrigan?s ?The Tao of Holding
            Space.? I offered<br>
            >        it with a smile, knowing from whence the Tao had
            come. Sort of<br>
            >        like carrying coals to New Castle. Or Tulip
            Bulbs to Holland. Or<br>
            >        perfume to Paris... Or...<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            >        I told my friends in Beijing that, for me, the
            Tao te Ching was<br>
            >        the most wonderful guide to holding and opening
            space. It was<br>
            >        written (to the best of anybody?s knowledge)
            about 1200 BCE.<br>
            >        That would be better than 3000 years ago. Been
            around for a bit.<br>
            ><br>
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            >        Jeff Aitken via OSList<br>
            >        Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 4:21 PM<br>
            >        To: Barry Owen; World wide Open Space Technology
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            >        Subject: Re: [OSList] There is no such thing as
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            >        I like the term 'opening space' --  endeavoring
            that the space<br>
            >        be a little (or lot) more open than before.<br>
            ><br>
            >        Maybe the practice is a lifelong one, of opening
            the space a bit<br>
            >        more in each cycle of day, week, month, or year,
            etc.<br>
            ><br>
            >        Really deep folks might tell us when the space
            will be<br>
            >        completely open again - in a zillion years - or
            maybe in this<br>
            >        moment?<br>
            ><br>
            >        Jeff<br>
            >        Lagunitas, California<br>
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            >        On Nov 8, 2015 10:24 AM, "Barry Owen via OSList"<br>
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            wrote:<br>
            ><br>
            >        Yes!<br>
            ><br>
            >        It's all relative . . .<br>
            ><br>
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            wrote:<br>
            ><br>
            >        Someone I love said to me "Pffft. There's no
            such thing as open<br>
            >        space."<br>
            ><br>
            >        I added, "Hmm. So there is no such thing as open
            space? only<br>
            >        closed space?......opened to varying degrees?"<br>
            ><br>
            >        And she said "Yes. Yup. That's it."<br>
            ><br>
            >        Hmm. No such thing as "100% open" space... I
            wonder about this.<br>
            >        I also wonder if you might want to comment on
            this idea.<br>
            ><br>
            >        Is the "no such thing as open space" idea
            heresy-in-fact?<br>
            ><br>
            >        --<br>
            ><br>
            >        Daniel Mezick, President<br>
            ><br>
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            ><br>
            >        Examine my new book:  The Culture Game<br>
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            >        the Agile Manager.<br>
            ><br>
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            >        Message: 3<br>
            >        Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 20:10:43 -0400<br>
            >        From: Jaime Pedreros Fitzgerald via OSList<br>
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            >                  Technology email list  <<a
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            >        Subject: Re: [OSList] There is no such thing as
            open space<br>
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            >        Hello dear Space Openers,<br>
            ><br>
            >        The other day I was talking with a collegue who
            is an university<br>
            >        staff<br>
            >        member here in La Paz. I told him (what follows
            is a result of<br>
            >        my daring<br>
            >        ignorance) that most of the development in
            social sciences and<br>
            >        human groups<br>
            >        evolution study is closely based/related onto
            Isaac Newton's<br>
            >        Universal<br>
            >        Gravitation Theory and the emerging laws that
            are being refined<br>
            >        until our<br>
            >        days (quantitaive change and analysis and so
            forth). Well, the<br>
            >        time is<br>
            >        appropiate for a change or shift and we are
            thinking now in terms of<br>
            >        relativity, as Harrison wisely said. Acoording
            to the ancient Greek<br>
            >        Mythology, passion was represented by the god
            Eros when he<br>
            >        contributed to<br>
            >        the creation of the universe from Chaos, that
            was the first<br>
            >        thing to exist:<br>
            >        So, Chaos is the origin of everything and is
            also an initial<br>
            >        stage in the<br>
            >        process of opening the space. The universe is
            infinite or it<br>
            >        expands?<br>
            >        Anyway, we are all relatively expanding
            ourselves; the space, as the<br>
            >        universe is and will be opened. The question we
            are discussing now<br>
            >        demonstrates this. Are our minds an Open Space?<br>
            ><br>
            >        Have a  big hug from Bolivia.<br>
            ><br>
            >        Jaime Pedreros F,<br>
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            >        Message: 4<br>
            >        Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 21:39:35 -0500<br>
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            >        Subject: [OSList] The OSLIST Poetry Contest is
            Open<br>
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            >        Dear Colleagues -<br>
            ><br>
            >        The OSLIST Poetry Contest is open once again! 
            If you feel so<br>
            >        inspired,<br>
            >        please create an original poem using these three
            guidelines:<br>
            ><br>
            >        1) The poem is about Open Space<br>
            >        2) The poem consists of 8 lines or less.<br>
            >        3) The poem contains all 26 letters of the
            English alphabet (or<br>
            >        all the<br>
            >        letters of the language you write the poem in)
            at least once.<br>
            >        If your<br>
            >        language does not have an alphabet, then you can
            skip/ignore<br>
            >        this guideline.<br>
            ><br>
            ><br>
            >        *Send your poetry directly to me (not to the
            whole list) at<br>
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            before the end<br>
            >        of Sunday, November<br>
            >        22nd.*<br>
            ><br>
            >        I will collect the poems and then show them back
            to you<br>
            >        anonymously, dear<br>
            >        readers - so you may indicate your favorites -
            even though this<br>
            >        is not a<br>
            >        game of favorites. It is a gift of riches.  It
            will, however,<br>
            >        tell us who<br>
            >        our new Poet Laureate of the OSLIST will be -
            someone who will<br>
            >        hold the<br>
            >        space for poetry by sharing and/or inviting
            poetry on our list<br>
            >        for the next<br>
            >        six months.<br>
            ><br>
            >        All of you OSLIST members, including past Poet
            Laureates, are<br>
            >        invited to<br>
            >        participate.  If you write your poem in your own
            language which<br>
            >        may not be<br>
            >        English, please do add a translation in English.<br>
            ><br>
            >        I welcome all your fierce and quiet words,<br>
            ><br>
            >        Lucas Cioffi<br>
            >        Current OSLIST Poet Laureate<br>
            >        Charlottesville, VA, USA<br>
            >        - with a deep bow to my fellow Poet Laureates<br>
            ><br>
            >        - - - - -<br>
            ><br>
            >        A little history, from Chris Corrigan:<br>
            ><br>
            >          > ?For all those who might be curious, the
            OSLIST Biannual<br>
            >        Restricted Form<br>
            >          > Poetry Contest started in the spring of
            2000 when I issued<br>
            >        the challenge to<br>
            >          > the list.  Ralph Copleman actually began
            the whole thing with<br>
            >        a contest in<br>
            >          > the fall of 1999 (which I won) and so he
            is the ?Poetry King?<br>
            >        for all<br>
            >          > time.  I just claimed the ?Poet Laureate?
            title in an effort<br>
            >        to have some<br>
            >          > fun.  It was something of a one martini
            idea, and I was out<br>
            >        of gin at the<br>
            >          > time...?<br>
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            >        Message: 5<br>
            >        Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 18:58:47 +0100<br>
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            >        Dear list friends and colleagues in Open Space
            and Genuine Contact!<br>
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            >        I?m working on a possible research project in
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            >        Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2015 15:33:35 -0500<br>
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            >        Subject: [OSList] Mercedes China<br>
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            >        While I was having fun with Mrs. Song and all of
            her guests in<br>
            >        Beijing, a<br>
            >        funny thing was happening nearby. It seems that
            the Mercedes<br>
            >        head office for<br>
            >        China was having a big do and some significant
            part of it was<br>
            >        all in Open<br>
            >        Space. I only learned of it when two gentlemen,
            whom I didn't<br>
            >        know, dropped<br>
            >        by. One was from Brazil, and the other from
            Italy and they were<br>
            >        somehow<br>
            >        responsible. Talk about not having all the
            facts! But I do know<br>
            >        the Mercedes<br>
            >        gathering was a pretty big deal, if only because
            the Mayor of<br>
            >        Beijing was<br>
            >        present. And that was just the tip of the
            iceberg because then<br>
            >        the Premier<br>
            >        of China showed up. And of course the Press was
            in attendance.<br>
            >        Anyhow the<br>
            >        evening news (Chinese TV version) was replete
            with the Premier<br>
            >        in Open<br>
            >        Space, surrounded by the appropriate signs, I'm
            told. Of course<br>
            >        I couldn't<br>
            >        read them, but I did see the pictures.<br>
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            >        Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 22:36:44 +0200<br>
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            >          > On 09 Nov 2015, at 22:33, Harrison Owen
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            >          ><br>
            >          > While I was having fun with Mrs. Song and
            all of her guests<br>
            >        in Beijing, a funny thing was happening nearby.
            It seems that<br>
            >        the Mercedes head office for China was having a
            big do and some<br>
            >        significant part of it was all in Open Space. I
            only learned of<br>
            >        it when two gentlemen, whom I didn?t know,
            dropped by. One was<br>
            >        from Brazil, and the other from Italy and they
            were somehow<br>
            >        responsible. Talk about not having all the
            facts! But I do know<br>
            >        the Mercedes gathering was a pretty big deal, if
            only because<br>
            >        the Mayor of Beijing was present. And that was
            just the tip of<br>
            >        the iceberg because then the Premier of China
            showed up. And of<br>
            >        course the Press was in attendance. Anyhow the
            evening news<br>
            >        (Chinese TV version) was replete with the
            Premier in Open Space,<br>
            >        surrounded by the appropriate signs, I?m told.
            Of course I<br>
            >        couldn?t read them, but I did see the pictures.<br>
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            >        Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 15:56:30 -0500<br>
            >        From: Skye Hirst via OSList <<a
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            >        What a great birthday present!<br>
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            >        On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Mikk Sarv via
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            >          > Great news!<br>
            >          ><br>
            >          > Mikk Sarv<br>
            >          ><br>
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            >          > On 09 Nov 2015, at 22:33, Harrison Owen
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            >          > While I was having fun with Mrs. Song and
            all of her guests<br>
            >        in Beijing, a<br>
            >          > funny thing was happening nearby. It
            seems that the Mercedes<br>
            >        head office<br>
            >          > for China was having a big do and some
            significant part of it<br>
            >        was all in<br>
            >          > Open Space. I only learned of it when two
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            >        didn?t know,<br>
            >          > dropped by. One was from Brazil, and the
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            >        they were<br>
            >          > somehow responsible. Talk about not
            having all the facts! But<br>
            >        I do know the<br>
            >          > Mercedes gathering was a pretty big deal,
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            >        Mayor of<br>
            >          > Beijing was present. And that was just
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            >        because then<br>
            >          > the Premier of China showed up. And of
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            >        in attendance.<br>
            >          > Anyhow the evening news (Chinese TV
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            >        the Premier<br>
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