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    Hi Suzanne!<br>
    <br>
    Nice interpretation - and maybe Mickey Mouse deserves a bow here.<br>
    <br>
    One of the things I love about our OS Hotline is the wisdom of Skye
    Hirst, who frequently shows up there. She has a lot of experience
    inside the work of Robert S. Hartman, and the hierarchy of values.
    Structure fits in the hierarchy of values, but at a lower order of
    value. So structure is great, but only if it's in service of the
    highest orders of value - which are called "Intrinsic" in Hartman's
    system.<br>
    <br>
    When we say "Open Space", it seems to work best as a place holder
    for "Spirit", potentially another name for intrinsic values.<br>
    <br>
    Open Space Technology is a structure in service to Open Space.<br>
    <br>
    I'm kind of into how C. Otto Sharmer says it. Instead of "Form
    follows function", he says "Form follows *attention*".<br>
    <br>
    So as you say, Suzanne, structure can appear as we need it. And
    sometimes, when we don't need it. Based on where we individually and
    collectively focus our attention, or where our attention is stuck
    due to the power of habit.<br>
    <br>
    One thing I love most about Open Space Technology - even though it
    can be a difficult role to play - it does authorize some space for
    those who may have managed to get unstuck from a collective habitual
    structure. They can hold a session by themselves, and still
    contribute to the proceedings. And, voila, sometimes just that one
    person can start attracting others out of a non-functioning
    structure. Or maybe even into a new one.<br>
    <br>
        Harold<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/5/15 5:24 PM, Suzanne Daigle via
      OSList wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Could it be that the structure we need shows up as
        we need it and disappears as quickly as it appeared once it has
        done its thing or when it has outlived it usefulness?  I value
        structure in my life though if I focus on it too much, it does
        often feel that it becomes a close cousin to those dreaded words
        that too often rule my life: control, security and
        predictability. And unfortunately then it then crowds out the
        best of life: love, connection, hope, promise, gratitude and
        much more.
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        <div>Does trust in the process or structure equate to
          structurelessness? Or is it more about how much emphasis we
          place on it before we "act" an "be".  <br>
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            <div>Probably what I love about the 5 OS principles and
              especially these 2, is that it keeps me connected and
              reminds me to let go a bit as it relates to structure and
              stuff.  <br>
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              <div>Whatever happens is the right thing</div>
              <div>Whoever comes is the right person. </div>
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              <div>Anyway this is what is coming out of my Mickey Mouse
                brain tonight (live in Florida you see), with great
                affection and a bit of fun to add to the mix of this
                discourse.!</div>
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              <div>Suzanne</div>
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                <div dir="ltr">Suzanne Daigle<br>
                  Open Space Facilitator<br>
                  NuFocus Strategic Group<br>
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                  Twitter @Daiglesuz<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 2:40 PM,
          Harrison Owen via OSList <span dir="ltr"><<a
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          wrote:<br>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">And
                    just to churn the pot a bit.... open some space???
                    An off thought which has pestered me recently. Goes
                    like this. “Structure is only a figment of our
                    imagination. It is our “take” of reality, a flash
                    frame of the passing scene. In our minds it looks
                    solid, even unchanging. But actually it is just a
                    momentary view of the ongoing flow.” Or something.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Harrison</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                        OSList [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org"
                          target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>]
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel Mezick via OSList<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 03, 2015 9:26 AM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"
                          target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> [OSList] The Tyranny of
                        Structurelessness</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">THE
                      TYRANNY of STRUCTURELESSNESS<br>
                      by Jo Freeman aka Joreen<br>
                      <br>
                      I find this essay extremely interesting. I hope
                      you do, too. <br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Here is a pertinent quote, from the essay:<br>
                      "...<i><span
                          style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">the
                          idea of "structurelessness" does not prevent
                          the formation of informal structures, only
                          formal ones."<br>
                          <br>
                        </span></i><br>
                      Circa 1970. Context: the women's movement. Quick
                      summary of the main points: from the essay...</p>
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                      <li class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                            style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">During
                            the years in which the women's liberation
                            movement has been taking shape, a great
                            emphasis has been placed on what are called
                            leaderless, structureless groups as the main
                            -- if not sole -- organizational form of the
                            movement. </span></i></li>
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                    <ul type="disc">
                      <li class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                            style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">The
                            idea of "structurelessness," however, has
                            moved from a healthy counter to those
                            tendencies, to becoming a goddess in its own
                            right.</span></i></li>
                    </ul>
                    <ul type="disc">
                      <li class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                            style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Contrary
                            to what we would like to believe, there is
                            no such thing as a structureless group. </span></i></li>
                    </ul>
                    <ul type="disc">
                      <li class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                            style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">This
                            means that to strive for a structureless
                            group is as useful, and as deceptive, as to
                            aim at an "objective" news story,
                            "value-free" social science, or a "free"
                            economy. A "laissez faire" group is about as
                            realistic as a "laissez faire" society; the
                            idea becomes a smokescreen for the strong or
                            the lucky to establish unquestioned hegemony
                            over others. </span></i></li>
                    </ul>
                    <ul type="disc">
                      <li class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                            style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">This
                            hegemony can be so easily established
                            because the idea of "structurelessness" does
                            not prevent the formation of informal
                            structures, only formal ones. </span></i></li>
                    </ul>
                    <ul type="disc">
                      <li class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                            style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">For
                            everyone to have the opportunity to be
                            involved in a given group and to participate
                            in its activities, the structure must be
                            explicit, not implicit. </span></i></li>
                    </ul>
                    <ul type="disc">
                      <li class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                            style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">It
                            is this informal structure, particularly in
                            Unstructured groups, which forms the basis
                            for elites.</span></i></li>
                    </ul>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                      <br>
                      Just in case you have not yet encountered the full
                      text of this essay, here it is: <br>
                      <br>
                      THE TYRANNY of STRUCTURELESSNESS<br>
                      by Jo Freeman aka Joreen<br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm"
                        target="_blank">http://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm</a><br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Regards,<br>
                      Daniel <br>
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