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Hi Suzanne!<br>
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Nice interpretation - and maybe Mickey Mouse deserves a bow here.<br>
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One of the things I love about our OS Hotline is the wisdom of Skye
Hirst, who frequently shows up there. She has a lot of experience
inside the work of Robert S. Hartman, and the hierarchy of values.
Structure fits in the hierarchy of values, but at a lower order of
value. So structure is great, but only if it's in service of the
highest orders of value - which are called "Intrinsic" in Hartman's
system.<br>
<br>
When we say "Open Space", it seems to work best as a place holder
for "Spirit", potentially another name for intrinsic values.<br>
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Open Space Technology is a structure in service to Open Space.<br>
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I'm kind of into how C. Otto Sharmer says it. Instead of "Form
follows function", he says "Form follows *attention*".<br>
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So as you say, Suzanne, structure can appear as we need it. And
sometimes, when we don't need it. Based on where we individually and
collectively focus our attention, or where our attention is stuck
due to the power of habit.<br>
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One thing I love most about Open Space Technology - even though it
can be a difficult role to play - it does authorize some space for
those who may have managed to get unstuck from a collective habitual
structure. They can hold a session by themselves, and still
contribute to the proceedings. And, voila, sometimes just that one
person can start attracting others out of a non-functioning
structure. Or maybe even into a new one.<br>
<br>
Harold<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/5/15 5:24 PM, Suzanne Daigle via
OSList wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Could it be that the structure we need shows up as
we need it and disappears as quickly as it appeared once it has
done its thing or when it has outlived it usefulness? I value
structure in my life though if I focus on it too much, it does
often feel that it becomes a close cousin to those dreaded words
that too often rule my life: control, security and
predictability. And unfortunately then it then crowds out the
best of life: love, connection, hope, promise, gratitude and
much more.
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<div>Does trust in the process or structure equate to
structurelessness? Or is it more about how much emphasis we
place on it before we "act" an "be". <br>
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<div>Probably what I love about the 5 OS principles and
especially these 2, is that it keeps me connected and
reminds me to let go a bit as it relates to structure and
stuff. <br>
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<div>Whatever happens is the right thing</div>
<div>Whoever comes is the right person. </div>
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<div>Anyway this is what is coming out of my Mickey Mouse
brain tonight (live in Florida you see), with great
affection and a bit of fun to add to the mix of this
discourse.!</div>
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<div>Suzanne</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 2:40 PM,
Harrison Owen via OSList <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">And
just to churn the pot a bit.... open some space???
An off thought which has pestered me recently. Goes
like this. “Structure is only a figment of our
imagination. It is our “take” of reality, a flash
frame of the passing scene. In our minds it looks
solid, even unchanging. But actually it is just a
momentary view of the ongoing flow.” Or something.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Harrison</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
OSList [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel Mezick via OSList<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 03, 2015 9:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"
target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [OSList] The Tyranny of
Structurelessness</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">THE
TYRANNY of STRUCTURELESSNESS<br>
by Jo Freeman aka Joreen<br>
<br>
I find this essay extremely interesting. I hope
you do, too. <br>
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Here is a pertinent quote, from the essay:<br>
"...<i><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">the
idea of "structurelessness" does not prevent
the formation of informal structures, only
formal ones."<br>
<br>
</span></i><br>
Circa 1970. Context: the women's movement. Quick
summary of the main points: from the essay...</p>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">During
the years in which the women's liberation
movement has been taking shape, a great
emphasis has been placed on what are called
leaderless, structureless groups as the main
-- if not sole -- organizational form of the
movement. </span></i></li>
</ul>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">The
idea of "structurelessness," however, has
moved from a healthy counter to those
tendencies, to becoming a goddess in its own
right.</span></i></li>
</ul>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Contrary
to what we would like to believe, there is
no such thing as a structureless group. </span></i></li>
</ul>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">This
means that to strive for a structureless
group is as useful, and as deceptive, as to
aim at an "objective" news story,
"value-free" social science, or a "free"
economy. A "laissez faire" group is about as
realistic as a "laissez faire" society; the
idea becomes a smokescreen for the strong or
the lucky to establish unquestioned hegemony
over others. </span></i></li>
</ul>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">This
hegemony can be so easily established
because the idea of "structurelessness" does
not prevent the formation of informal
structures, only formal ones. </span></i></li>
</ul>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">For
everyone to have the opportunity to be
involved in a given group and to participate
in its activities, the structure must be
explicit, not implicit. </span></i></li>
</ul>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">It
is this informal structure, particularly in
Unstructured groups, which forms the basis
for elites.</span></i></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
Just in case you have not yet encountered the full
text of this essay, here it is: <br>
<br>
THE TYRANNY of STRUCTURELESSNESS<br>
by Jo Freeman aka Joreen<br>
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href="http://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm"
target="_blank">http://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm</a><br>
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Regards,<br>
Daniel <br>
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