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Hi Daniel,<br>
<br>
As a habitual outsider, I can't say whether or not I felt excluded
by the Ralph Copleman story or not. For me, it might be a bit like
asking a fish whether or not he feels wet.<br>
<br>
But I will say - I've heard the story of Ralph and "everything is
moving", and I got value from the story even without knowing the
full context. And I really wish I had felt excluded by the story
when I first heard it 7 years ago or so, and had asked about it like
you did.<br>
<br>
I'm so grateful to you, Daniel, for saying something. And I'm very
grateful to Harrison for sharing the story, and especially the
thoughts that it has provoked. And I'm grateful to Ralph, who I
never knew, for leaving such an enduring legacy with just a few
words at a Symposia decades ago.<br>
<br>
Cheers!<br>
Harold<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/5/15 2:50 PM, Daniel Mezick via
OSList wrote:<br>
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Howdy Harrison,<br>
<br>
Thanks for describing the context of the Ralph Copleman story- I'm
very thankful for that info.<br>
<br>
I notice that, lots of times here, there are references made to
notable OST episodes, and situations from times past... <br>
<br>
...the "OST-mythos" as it were. <br>
<br>
These mythical stories often have me wondering what I missed, and
what I might now be missing. (Being clueless as I am.) <br>
<br>
I'm sure these story-fragment postings are not posted with intent
to exclude anyone, or to be discourteous, or unkind. More like:
some good old basic camaraderie is taking place between some old
friends.<br>
<br>
Still: Do these "inside-story-fragments" on OSLIST tend to evoke
feelings of exclusion in readers who were <i>not</i> there at the
time? <br>
<br>
Not sure. <br>
<br>
<CONFESSION><br>
<br>
As for me, personally, I sometimes find myself experiencing
curiously odd feelings of exclusion, when a told-fragment of an
old OST-mythos story lacks explicit context. So I can follow the
story, you know? The terms "outsider" or "clueless" or "not in
the story" describe these feelings fairly well. "Not invited?"<br>
<br>
I sometimes wonder if some of the hundreds of <i>other</i>
members of OSLIST ever feel this way...or if it is "just me." <br>
<br>
</CONFESSION><br>
<br>
Daniel <br>
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<div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
Harold Shinsato<br>
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