<div dir="ltr">thanks for the clarification about how things happened this year, lisa. this morning i'm wondering if/how any expectation or assumption of voting might play into people's decision to offer an invitation or not. more, i'm wondering why we ever started voting at all. when several conveners offer similar topics when we're facilitating, we might suggest or they just naturally do go off and have a chat amongst themselves to decide when the session will happen and what it might be called. often they just push the posted pages together and say "we're going to do these together," but then what happens in that corner of the room is some mixing of the various views. it seems so natural in an OS event and yet it doesn't seem like we've done this with various would-be conveners of osonos gatherings. have we just left it to those willing to take responsiblity for hosting to figure it out and tell us where the next gathering(s) will be offered? i'm thinking this might move in the direction of jan's atlee story. or maybe that's the "session" you've been convening year to year, in some way. if so, have we had an underlying requirement or assumption that there always be just one physical location convening at any one time? and is that still necessary? <div><br></div><div>and i completely agree with you, eleder, re: doing online wosonos. there isn't any requirement at all to do any parallel convening. there is some value and maybe also some responsibility in the way of telling the story, sharing what's happening. usually this happens by ppts typing up notes. many times (vancouver, melbourne, swenmark and maybe others) we have been able to share the notes online at the same time as they are posted on the wall onsite. always, new conversations have sprung up around those postings. this acknowledges and feeds a larger practice circle than can gather in any one location and makes what happens in that location even more importance and value, i think. the simplest way of sharing those notes would be posting to the oslist. we've done it in other ways, in wikis and such. </div><div><br></div><div>this year we offered some options at qiqochat, as part of learning our way into that platform, as a community. i think of this more like posting a project/topic at wosonos than being any central part of the hosting team or task. i think there is something worth exploring, as a community, in this realm of distributed collaboration as more and more people in agile and other businesses are learning to work in this way. again, this is learning is something i see can happen in the context of osonos events, for anyone who wants to join it (from anywhere), rather than a requirement in creating an osonos event. osonos is about learning while doing, ya? </div><div><br></div><div>thanks, too, eleder, for reminding about basque country and berlin osonos events. that must put us up toward 60 gatherings in 20+ years. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div> <br>--<br><br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates<br><a href="http://MichaelHerman.com" target="_blank">http://MichaelHerman.com</a><br><a href="http://OpenSpaceWorld.org" target="_blank">http://OpenSpaceWorld.org</a><br><br></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr">Some thoughts ...<br>
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Pernilla in Sweden wrote 30 Sep 2015:<br>
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> I am personally very uncomfortable to use the words
‘voting’ or to ‘make a collective decision’ within an Open
Space.<br>
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> One of the beauties with Open Space is taking
responsibility for your own engagement. If we all share the
same engagement we will walk in the same direction,
eventually. But sometimes it takes time for things to
emerge.<br>
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Yes, indeed.<br>
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Here's Tom Atlee's beautiful story on How to make a Decision
Without Making a Decision<br>
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<a href="http://www.co-intelligence.org/I-decisionmakingwithout.html" target="_blank">http://www.co-intelligence.org/I-decisionmakingwithout.html</a><br>
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Tom writes: As I stepped out into the flooded fields I
suddenly realized that no decision had been made. No motion
was made. No vote was taken. No one checked for consensus.
Nothing was announced or recorded. The group just "knew" how
we were going to behave ...<br>
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Jan, also in Sweden<br>
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