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Hi Lucas,<br>
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Thanks for the "hat tip" around "Open Space in the Wild". I started
composing an OSList message a couple weeks ago which isn't quite
ready for release, but I do believe that OST has had a lot of
children (some legitimate, and some maybe not so much). Barcamp is
definitely a child of Open Space, as is the whole unconference
"movement".<br>
<br>
There is a difference between unconferences and barcamps.
Unconferences can include many forms of participant driven content -
including collecting session suggestions weeks before the event with
some kind of web assisted topic voting by the participant community.
It can even include Lightning Talks, like Ignite events. I think the
way many Hackathons are explicit unconferences too. And thus can
trace their ancestry from OST.<br>
<br>
A few years ago at one of Kaliya Hamlin's OST conferences I met Dave
Nielsen, the founder of CloudCamp, an unconference for cloud
computing enthusiasts. Dave chose OST for his CloudCamp originally,
but added some things to address issues (just like Peggy Holman
added Appreciative Inquiry, Warm up Talks, and World Cafe' to her
Journalism That Matters conferences). Dave Nielsen came up with an
interesting innovation called an "UnPanel" - where the crowd
self-organizes the panelists and the questions. He talked about it
at an Ignite event, <a
href="http://igniteshow.com/videos/unpanel-one-way-get-your-unconference-started"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://igniteshow.com/videos/unpanel-one-way-get-your-unconference-started">http://igniteshow.com/videos/unpanel-one-way-get-your-unconference-started</a></a><br>
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Originally, a "barcamp" was a DIRECT copy of O'Reilly's FooCamps - a
private invitation only multi day party/unconference that actually
includes tents and camping on the O'Reilly publisher's headquarters.
The BarCamp just wasn't private, and was produced so that anyone
could host one. Just like Open Space, a BarCamp had multiple
locations, and multiple time slots, for people to write in their
sessions.<br>
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If anyone is hosting a BarCamp and allowing pre-scheduled
presentations - they're violating BarCamp rules.<br>
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"6th Rule: No pre-scheduled presentations, no tourists."<br>
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<a href="http://barcamp.org/w/page/405173/TheRulesOfBarCamp">http://barcamp.org/w/page/405173/TheRulesOfBarCamp</a><br>
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My own Open Space story is through hearing about FooCamp, and then
learning about BarCamp, back in 2007. Techies in Montana wanted a
BarCamp, and I agreed to get one started. But then I learned about
OST through Kaliya Hamlin at the huge annual JavaOne conference in
San Francisco. And then was trained by Lisa Heft. So even though I
called my Montana OST a BarCamp, and I registered my events as a
BarCamp.org, I did it every year as a bona-fide OST, even mentioning
Harrison Owen every time. No BarCamp police came and shut me down -
mostly because I refused to be a Nazi with the BarCamp "no tourist"
rule, which means everyone is supposed to present, or help out
somehow. Completely unnecessary!<br>
<br>
Back in '07 the BarCamp brand was pretty fresh and active, with a
larger number of North America events. But I got so tired of saying
my Missoula BarCamp event wasn't about drinking alcohol (Bar's), nor
about Camping. So we no longer call it a BarCamp. And from what I
can see, most of the originally juice has flown the coup out of the
BarCamp brand. But there's lots of juice in Unconferences. More to
come.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Harold<br>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">I want to merge my post
from 11 days ago (below) into this thread, because it
relates to unconferences/barcamps and OS. The post <span
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">Is there a difference
between unconferences and barcamps? I have seen them
used interchangeably. Here's the p<span
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40px;border:none;padding:0px">Hat tip to Harold for
bringing up the idea of "Open Space in the Wild" on a
recent Tuesday OS Hotline call. Unconferences are one
such form that OS takes outside of the OS community.
Hat tip to Tricia for hosting the Tuesday OS Hotline.
If you haven't attended one yet, look for the
announcements on Monday/Tuesday on this list. They
are lots of fun!<br>
<br>
So here's the topic I'd like to discuss on this
thread:<br>
I understand that unconferences (aka barcamps)
evolved/descended from open space. It seems to be an
estranged relationship where many of the hundreds of
people who run unconferences have never heard of open
space. From my personal experience and from the
opinions of others who have held unconferences, they
vary in quality from poor quality to excellent,
depending on many factors such as the level of
preparation that<br>
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In this thread, I'd like to ask, "What are the main
differences between unconferences and OS?" Here's a
start to the list of differences that I can see:<br>
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<div style="font-size:small">Some unconferences
start with a slide presentation (an example is
in the links below), and this never happens in
OS.<br>
Unconferences frequently (but not always?) start
with theater-style seating rather than an
opening circle.<br>
Unconferences have everyone give 3-word
introductions.<br>
Unconferences almost always (from my experience)
last one day or less.<br>
During the closing people will often share "key
takeaways" from the sessions whereas during an
OS, people usually share reflections about the
overall experience (I think)<br>
Unconferences rarely mention the terms
"butterfly" and the "bumble bee" (at least from
the 20 that I've attended)<br>
OS has more of a griefwork element (there is a
problem/crisis or the situation on the ground is
changing and something is ending and we need to
figure out what comes next) whereas
unconferences are more about birds of a feather
getting together. Said another way, OS is more
frequently about collective action and
unconferences are more about building social
cohesion and individual learning.<br>
Any other key differences? These are just my
impressions.<br>
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Another question on my mind: "When is an unconference
a more appropriate tool than an open space?"<br>
<br>
So that you can understand the language of one breed
of unconference organizers, here are some of the
resources that EdCamp (a large unconference series)
shares with its organizers:<br>
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<div style="font-size:small">Checklist for how to
run an EdCamp unconference: <a
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A diagram for EdCamp which describes tips for <a
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target="_blank">how a participant can make the
most of their experience</a> (I didn't make
this, but I uploaded it to my WordPress site
since it was too big to attach to an OSList
message)<br>
A <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://qiqochat.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/sample-edcamp-intro-2.pptx"
target="_blank">slide presentation which is
used to begin EdCamp unconferences</a><br>
A <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.edutopia.org/edcamp-organizer-resources"
target="_blank">mish-mash of tips and
resources for organizing an EdCamp</a><br>
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at 10:00 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <span
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">"Lean
Coffee" is yet-another derivative of
Open Space. It's simple, fun, and
useful- like OST itself. <br>
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Here is the origin story: <br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.leancoffee.org/"
target="_blank">www.leancoffee.org</a><br>
Lean Coffee started in Seattle in 2009.
Jim Benson and Jeremy Lightsmith wanted
to start a group that would discuss Lean
techniques in knowledge work – but
didn’t want to start a whole new
cumbersome organization with steering
committees, speakers, and such. They
wanted a group that did not rely on
anything other than people showing up
and wanting to learn or create.<br>
<p><br>
Apparently, (almost) everybody
believes Lean Coffee is in fact a
stripped-down "light" version of OST
for smaller groups:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.google.com/search?q=www.leancoffee.org+open+space&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8"
target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?q=www.leancoffee.org+open+space&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8</a><br>
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Mezick via OSList wrote:<br>
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<div>Bar Camp history does not
support the idea that BarCamp
precedes OST development:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp#History</a><br>
The first BarCamp was held in <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palo_Alto,_California"
title="Palo Alto, California"
target="_blank">Palo Alto,
California</a>, from August
19–21, 2005<br>
<br>
So interesting also, that the name
derives (indirectly) from
"foobar"...ha<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp#History</a><br>
The name <i>BarCamp</i> is a
playful allusion to the event's
origins, with reference to the
programmer slang term, <a
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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar"
title="Foobar" target="_blank">foobar</a>:
BarCamp arose as an
open-to-the-public alternative to <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_Camp"
title="Foo Camp" target="_blank">Foo
Camp</a>, which is an annual
invitation-only participant-driven
conference hosted by <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_O%27Reilly"
title="Tim O'Reilly"
target="_blank">Tim O'Reilly</a>.<br>
<br>
"Foo camp" which preceded Bar Camp
also came much later than OST:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_Camp"
target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_Camp</a><br>
The first FOO Camp was held in
August, 2003, and had
approximately 200 attendees.<sup><br>
</sup><br>
Daniel <br>
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<div>On 9/16/15 4:53 AM, Martin
Roell via OSList wrote:<br>
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<pre>Hey Arno,
Arno Baltin via OSList wrote:
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<pre>I have been assisting a group of professionals at organising their
annual meetings for couple of years. These have been unconferences in
different forms - Open Space, World Cafe, ... This time they chosed Bar
Camp.
I have no experience with that. Reading through some materials, appears
it is more like a technically well supported Open Space which is a
preference of IT people and a predecessor of OS.
I would appreciate any hints on how to facilitate a Bar Camp.
It will be a 2 day meeting of (maximum) 100 participants.
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<pre>Barcamp is like a badly done OpenSpace with some constraints that make
it harder to get work done.
So _basically_, if you just open space, like you normally would, but
calling the whole thing "BarCamp" (and saying the word "BarCamp" a lot,
Barcamping-People seem to like that), all will be well. (Or, in your
context, simply drop that, open space, and let people get to work.)
(Barcamps have a tendency for a "facilitator" to "help" people post
"sessions" to the marketplace. They also have a ritual where after a
person announces a "session" (it's always a "session", never an
"issue"), the "facilitator" asks the "participants" for a show of
interest ("raise your hand if you are interested in attemding this
session") so that they can then "plan" better (many hands: you get a big
room assigned). There is no circle at the beginning, and none at the
end. A lot of "teaching" takes places - extroverted people "giving"
sessions to the less extroverted one, much less walking-around, less
spontaneity. If "teaching" is the goal, they actually work decently.)
You'll probably get some slack from hardcore barcampers if you don't do
all of that; and you'll step on people's toes for not following other
barcamp-rituals, but I'd still go for it in the context you described.
Check in with your sponsor why they want "BarCamp" - what does that mean
for them, what's the important thing in that for them.
Best,
Martin
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