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    "That's an interesting thread you started, Daniel, about inviting
    non-invitation."<br>
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    Thank you kindly Lucas. <br>
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    Daniel<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/2/15 9:47 AM, Lucas Cioffi via
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      <div dir="ltr">That's an interesting thread you started, Daniel,
        about inviting non-invitation.
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        <div>Harrison writes yesterday:<br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Here’s
                  a thought... Space/time is infinite, defined by our
                  minds, and limited by our imagination. So
                  “constraints” are only what you make them out to be.
                  AND... it is always nice to have as much “space/time”
                  as possible. A “genuine invitation” creates a LOT of
                  space/time.</span></p>
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          <div class="gmail_extra"><b>Do y'all think we are creating
              space or are we opening space?  It's an important
              distinction, because creating implies a win-win but
              opening could be a win-lose situation.  </b>I'd say none
            of us is ever creating space, just opening it, and that
            someone or something is always losing something else when we
            do.  </div>
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          <div class="gmail_extra"><b>I'll do my best to explain...</b></div>
          <div class="gmail_extra">Instead of "creating space" I'd argue
            that instead we are "creating space <b><i>for</i></b>"
            because the space literally already exists.  We are creating
            opportunity for voices to be heard and for people to
            participate.  But in some indirect way a <b><i>space for X</i></b>
            is at least indirectly a <i><b>space against Y</b></i>.  We
            are never actually creating new space, instead we are
            creating "<b><i>new space for</i></b>" by marking that space
            with an invitation/purpose, principles, and a law of two
            feet.  The space (the hotel conference room, the warehouse,
            etc) already exists.</div>
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          <div class="gmail_extra">I don't disagree, Harrison, that
            overall space/time might be infinite–I don't know :) –but
            each of us is limited to being in one physical space at a
            time, monitoring/interacting with a handful of physical
            spaces virtually, and having 24 hours in a day.  In that way
            we'd all agree that space and time are nearly zero sum at a
            personal scale, so when we open/create space for _________,
            and people accept the invitation, we are decreasing energy
            and time spent some where else.  There is a cost.  We don't
            talk about that, but I don't think we forget that either.</div>
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          <div class="gmail_extra">So, to take this argument full circle
            (pun intended), I'd say that whenever we open space, we do
            it by force.  Space doesn't open on its own (or does it?!--
            what if we aren't really <i>opening</i> space and the space
            is already open, that we're just the first to see it?). 
            Well, even if space opens on its own and then if we're the
            first ones to walk into it and invite others, we are still
            inviting by force–this not a bad force or a coercive force,
            but it's a force nonetheless.  We know this, because we know
            how it requires force to launch an invitation into the
            world.  (Or is this not always the case?  Can someone invite
            by simply being?)</div>
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          <div class="gmail_extra">Any invitation displaces people's
            time: to read it (maybe just 30 seconds) and then much more
            time is displaced for people choose to attend (an hour, a
            day, etc).  What I'm trying to say is that I'm beginning to
            see opening space more and more as active, forceful (in a
            good way), and intentional.  When we open space that was
            previously closed, we are using force, and that might mean
            that someone else is experiencing something else closing
            (the old order of business in an organization or fewer
            people attending another event or doing something that they
            would have otherwise been doing if they weren't attending).</div>
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          <div class="gmail_extra">Bottom line: It's hard to argue with
            creating space because it looks like a win-win, but
            somewhere someone or something is losing our time, energy,
            and support in the short term.  In the case of an
            organization the person losing is the boss who wants to keep
            the old order of things.  When that situation isn't
            applicable, we're at least spending time away from other
            things we could be doing such as tending to a vegetable
            garden or taking Fido for a walk.  <b>So it's always
              important to keep in mind who/what is losing when we open
              space, and perhaps using the phrase "creating space" is a
              good way to focus on the upside.</b></div>
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