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Thanks, Harrison! Your insight about invitation (how forced
"invites" don't work in the long run) seems the same paradigm shift
you have been teaching us for years - as you wrote about in your
beautiful post yesterday: all systems are open and self-organizing.<br>
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It reminds me, and seems in the same spirit of another Paradigm
Shifter - the founder of Aikido Morihei Ueshiba. I recall someone
paraphrasing his teaching that the moment someone attempts to
attack, or oppose, they're already defeated. I dug up the following
quotes.<br>
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"To attack means that the spirit has already lost. We adhere to the
principle of absolute nonresistance, that is to say, we do not
oppose the attacker. Thus, there is no opponent in Aikido."<br>
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- Morihei Ueshiba (from an interview - )<br>
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"The Art of Peace is the principle of nonresistance. Because it is
nonresistant, it is victorious from the beginning. Those with evil
intentions or contentious thoughts are instantly vanquished. The Art
of Peace is invincible because it contends with nothing."<br>
- Morihei Ueshiba (from his book, "The Art of Peace")
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/31/15 3:38 PM, Harrison via OSList
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Dan/Lucas – I think it is a lot weirder than that... All
them Dictators are trying to “force the system.” Seems to
work for a bit, but that is definitely illusory. Eventually
it all blows up in their face. Good Old SO (self
organization) has been around a lot longer than the current
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<b>Subject:</b> [OSList] Inviting non-invitation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"Is it accurate to say that some self
organizing happens by invitation and some happens by
coercion/force? " <o:p></o:p></p>
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Great question Lucas!<br>
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The [invitation] wall-poster you suggest feels wall-worthy to
me, so long as no one is obligated to examine it... or even
look at it.<br>
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My turn to ask a question: What might a world "void of
manipulation" and "replete with invitation" actually look
like?<br>
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Daniel<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 8/31/15 9:57 AM, Lucas Cioffi via
OSList wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi All, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is it accurate to say that some
self organizing happens by invitation and some happens
by coercion/force? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For example, from the perspective
of someone who lives outside of Iraq, the way
the Ba'ath Party took charge of Iraq through a coup
seems like an example of self-organizing by force to
us, because we're outside the system of Iraq. I
welcome some thoughts on this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Over the past few months (and
working with Michael Herman for VOSonOS) I've seen
that the spirit of invitation shouldn't end with the
writing of the invitation, and instead it should be
present throughout the open space. When someone posts
a topic on the marketplace wall, they are inviting
others to a conversation, not taking over a time slot
(like having a coup and taking over a small country).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">When someone wants to be a
"dictator" of their open space session, yes others can
use their two feet and walk out, but that comes at a
cost to the social fabric of the organization. A
better outcome would be that the would-be dictator
holds a welcoming space from the start. So I'd
recommend that another sign worth posting on the wall
near "Law of Two Feet" would be "Spirit of
Invitation". I think it's wall-worthy, do you?<o:p></o:p></p>
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