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Ha Harrison,<br>
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"...<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Enjoy
yourself. But I don’t think I would go to work for a large,
overstaffed, overcharging, “major” consultancy. <big><b>They
could be an endangered species?</b></big>"<br>
<br>
I'm guessing, but....probably not. Something about PT Barnum?<br>
<br>
Daniel <br>
<br>
See also:<br>
</span><br>
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">"...Many
people are gullible, and we can expect this to continue."<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute</a><br>
<br>
</span><br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/26/15 8:31 AM, Harrison via OSList
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Your belief has been my experience. (“as a single person
company (not alone, because in a good network, and therefore
very much Agile !) , I believe that if i sell less days to
my clients it will give me more time to find other clients
who could make good use of my/our knowhow. and therefore,
contribute better and faster to a better world if a greater
number of firms self organize...”) Back in the old days,
BOST (Before Open Space), I used to have clients. Not many,
but they paid very well, and quite regularly. I used to work
with each of them for a year or two, and every quarter, I
sent them a bill. Wonderful!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Then
I drank the martinis. And the result was major financial
adjustment, not to say disaster. I discovered to my chagrin
that my clients were accomplishing in 4-5 days what used to
take several years. You can imagine what happened to my
billable hours. And that’s when the fun really began....and
has continued for the next 30 years.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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yourself. But I don’t think I would go to work for a large,
overstaffed, overcharging, “major” consultancy. They could
be an endangered species?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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OSList [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Béatrice MELIN via OSList<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 26, 2015 1:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Harold Shinsato; World wide Open Space
Technology email list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] Open Space- A little too open
for "Agile enablement" firms?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">thanks a lot, Daniel and Harold
and all of you people for sharing this very interesting
conversation<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>the video is great and the conversation you have about OST
being "too usefull or too quick" and leading to selling less
days, I love it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I understand it can be a real worry for big or medium
consultancy firms (obviously with big or medium expenses
difficult to lower quickly) who buit their business models on
selling a certain amount of days per year to a specific number
of clients...and selling less days can be a threat to their
stability<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>as a single person company (not alone, beacause in a good
network, and therefore very much Agile !) , I believe that if
i sell less days to my clients it will give me more time to
find other clients who could make good use of my/our knowhow.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>and therefore, contribute better and faster to a better world
if a greater number of firms self organize...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>thanks again for this in depth sunday reflection :)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>have a nice day, warm thoughts, Béatrice<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Béatrice Melin<br>
06.12.05.75.08<br>
Skype : bea0102<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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<span style="color:fuchsia">pour les professionnels</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:#FF6600">pour les particuliers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.alidade-conseil.fr">www.alidade-conseil.fr</a>
<span style="color:green">coaching et facilitation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Message du 25/07/15 17:10<br>
> De : "Harold Shinsato via OSList" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a></a>><br>
> A : "World wide Open Space Technology email list" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a></a>><br>
> Copie à : <br>
> Objet : Re: [OSList] Open Space- A little too open for
"Agile enablement" firms?<br>
> <br>
>Yes! I first learned about the light bulb conspiracy
from Paul Wheaton (a renowned Permaculture promoter) at an
Open Space event, the one I organize in Montana, Missoula
Barcamp 2013.<br>
> <br>
> Highly recommend this 2010 documentary about it - "The
Light Bulb Conspiracy: The Untold Story of Planned
Obsolenscence" -<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfbbF3oxf-E">https://vimeo.com/109014324</a><br>
> <br>
> It is a case study of a specific planned obsolescence
conspiracy, and a successful one. But the movie is really
about how it's everywhere. Planned obsolescence is standard
practice everywhere, especially in computing. And agile is
being destructively used to produce more and faster to be
thrown away - including coaching transactions.<br>
> <br>
> Open Space can play a critical role in reversing this
unsustainable soul polluting trend that is consuming and
destroying the planet for some temporary profits for a small
minority. And doing it in agile adoptions is a leading edge
for Open Space directly into the heart of this destructive
and recent (less than 100 year old) practice. This quote
from an African in the movie is very telling - and
challenging.<br>
> <br>
> "Posterity will never forgive us. Posterity will
suddenly find out about the throw away lifestyles of people
in the advanced countries."<br>
> <br>
> Harold<br>
> <br>
> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 7/25/15 7:31 AM, Daniel Mezick via
OSList wrote:<br>
><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Most all Agile adoptions do not
(repeat) do not begin in Open Space. Curious, isn't it? I
mean, why not? <br>
> <br>
> Something about having to explain about engagement,
invitation, opt-in participation, and self-organization to
executives. <br>
> <br>
> When selling, simple is better. The less said- the
better. Sell them what they are buying! And be quiet about
everything else. <br>
> <br>
> Open Space is super-efficient. It encourages
self-organization. At scale. <br>
> <br>
> This efficiency reduces the number of Agile coaching
& Agile consulting days that can effectively be sold.
<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> When Agile adoptions start in Open Space and then
periodic OST events are scheduled periodically, something
curious happens: genuine agility sprouts. Authentic
self-organization and self-management ensues, little by
little... more and more. <br>
> <br>
> Once this happens, business-as-usual (for the
consultant) usually includes vacating the premises. <br>
> <br>
> OST optimizes on transformations, not transactions. <br>
> <br>
> Perhaps OST is a little too efficient? Kind of like
the original design for the light bulb?<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <o:p></o:p></p>
<h3><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2014/10/the-light-bulb-cartel-and-planned-obsolescence.html"><span
style="color:black;text-decoration:none">'The Light
Bulb Cartel and Planned Obsolescence'</span></a><o:p></o:p></h3>
<div>
<div>
<p>> Busy day today -- a couple of quick ones for
now. This is Tim Taylor:<o:p></o:p></p>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://conversableeconomist.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-light-bulb-cartel-and-planned.html">The
Light Bulb Cartel and Planned Obsolescence</a>:
The old 1951 movie "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0044876/">The
Man in the White Suit,"</a> starring Alec
Guinness, is both an entertaining adventure/comedy
and a meditation on technology and planned
obsolescence. The Alec Guinness character invents a
wonderful new fabric that will never get dirty and
never wear out. He sees a future where ordinary
people will save money on clothes and cleaning
expenses. People marvel at the invention at first,
but soon everyone is against him: the textile and
clothing companies fear his cloth will put them out
of business, the workers in those companies fear
losing their jobs, and those who do the washing fear
losing work, too. Near the end of the movie, one
character notes wryly that markets won't function if
the products work too well. He says: “What do you
think happened to all the other things? The razor
blade that doesn’t get blunt? The car that runs on
water with a pinch of something else?”<o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal">It's harder to come up with
clear-cut real-world example of where companies
sought to reduce the quality of a product in order
to boost sales. But in the October 2014 issue of
IEEE Spectrum, Markus Krajewski tells the story of "<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://spectrum.ieee.org/geek-life/history/the-great-lightbulb-conspiracy">The
Great Lightbulb Conspiracy: The Phoebus cartel
engineered a shorter-lived lightbulb and gave
birth to planned obsolescence."</a> ...<o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
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> <o:p></o:p></p>
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> <o:p></o:p></p>
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