<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Daniel, I hear you mention repeatedly, that mandating stuff doesn't work.<br><br></div>I fully agree with you. <br></div>"Mandating stuff is a recipe for disaster."<br></div>I agree. <br><br></div>What's happening at Zappo's is nuts.<br></div>I agree.<br><br></div>I also agree with Harrison about the power and prevalence of the informal organization, everywhere.<br></div>And, about the power of Open Space Technology to offer a "speeded up, concentrated experience of self-organization in action."<br><br></div>what I was curious about (and I realize I didn't express it so clearly...) was about what happens <i>after</i> OST events...<br></div>I'm curious to know, whether people in the organizations you know, generally remain content with having the hierarchical<br></div>"patterns and flows of energy" remain in place (maybe as a sort of decoy??) while the informal organization continues in a more energized manner...<br><br></div>or, if you have seen sometimes, a self-organizing move to create a "pattern or flow of energy" that "flash-framed", looks different than a triangle. <br><br></div>(again.. NOT like what happened at Zappos. NOT "mandated from above".)<br><br></div>I realize I have been making a (possibly unfounded) assumption that this is not happening very much. <br></div>And, it may be that I am just uninformed...<br><br></div>Another way of wording it... <br>I'm curious to learn about instances where the already-happening-everywhere-self-organization,<br></div>after being "speeded up and concentrated" via OST, <br></div>leads to new structures (i.e. "freeze-framed patterns and flows of energy")<br></div>that look different than the older ones.<br><br></div>Feels like a valid question to me,<br></div>yet not sure if this is the place to ask it...<br><br>and, I am still sad that the tragically flawed circus at Zappos is giving participatory management a bad name. <br></div><div>I do wish they had listened to you, Daniel. <br></div><div><br>And/ or, to anyone else who might have helped them understand, <br></div><div>that it's crazy-making and doomed to "mandate participation".<br><br></div><div>with all best wishes,<br><br></div><div>Rosa <br></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span><i>Rosa Zubizarreta<br></i></span></div><div><span><i><a href="http://www.DiaPraxis.com" target="_blank"><b>www.DiaPraxis.com</b></a><br><br></i></span><div>Author of <a href="http://www.conflict2creativity.com" target="_blank"><b>From Conflict to Creative Collaboration</b></a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><b>recent Dynamic Facilitation deep dives:</b> </span><span> <br>May 26-28<b> </b>near<b> <a href="http://tinyurl.com/DFGermany2015" target="_blank">Bonn, Germany</a>;</b> June 12-16 in <b><a href="http://www.solutiongeneratorsnetwork.org/1.0/dynamic-facilitation/" target="_blank">Durham, NC</a></b></span><a href="http://www.solutiongeneratorsnetwork.org/1.0/dynamic-facilitation/" target="_blank"> </a> </div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><span></span><br><span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I join Harrison is what he is saying. <br>
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"...<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">if
we want a speeded up, concentrated experience of self organization
in action, we know what to do."</span><br>
<br>
One time on the phone talking about this, Harrison (paraphasing,)
you said: <br>
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"..the real operating system is self-organization. Everything is is
[an app.]"<br>
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I like that quote.<br>
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Quoting the NYT article: some interesting items in it....<br>
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"The end result was what he refers to as an “operating system” for
organizations."<br>
<br>
...stop right there: <br>
the holacracy people are really pushing this metaphor. "holacracy as
operating system." Maybe not? Or maybe (scary idea) organizations
are not machines at all. Maybe they are living systems? Which are
not quite so easy to describe, manipulate, "program" ...and control?<br>
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"...
Everyone must use the Holacracy software, called Glass Frog."<br>
<br>
...wait:<br>
Everyone MUST use? Really? How's that mandate actually working out?<br>
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"...
Holacracy has been met with everything from cautious embrace to
outright revulsion at Zappos, but little unequivocal enthusiasm."<br>
<br>
...stop right there.<br>
Maybe coercion is actually a bad idea?<br>
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"....I have five hours of meetings today.”"<br>
<br>
...stop right there:<br>
Are these meeting mandatory to attend? Can you opt-out of any of
these "holacracy" meetings? Guessing no...<br>
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"...
Mr. Hsieh sent a 4,700-word email to the entire company with an
ultimatum: Embrace Holacracy or accept a buyout. "<br>
<br>
...wait: an ultimatum? Does that actually work?<br>
The spin is that all remaining employees are now "all-in." The
reality is probably quite far from that:<br>
<a href="https://medium.com/@DanielMezick/zappos-holacracy-and-real-options-don-t-commit-early-unless-you-know-why-ba8a7741b1b" target="_blank">https://medium.com/@DanielMezick/zappos-holacracy-and-real-options-don-t-commit-early-unless-you-know-why-ba8a7741b1b</a><br>
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"...
For all of the talk of self-management and consensus building, the
decision to go down this path was Mr. Hsieh’s alone."<br>
<br>
Wait:<br>
Is this a command, from authority, to self-organize? If so, how does
that actually work?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
"...Mr. Hsieh
he emphasized that learning Holacracy was like learning a sport — it
would take years to get good at it."<br>
<br>
stop.right.there:<br>
Could this be code for "it could take years to <b><i>replace</i></b>
everyone." ???? <br>
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If so, is this the new normal? Replace everyone? Does that actually
count as a successful change/innovation program? <br>
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<a href="https://medium.com/@DanielMezick/adopting-holacracy-at-zappos-6664d70c0b5d" target="_blank">https://medium.com/@DanielMezick/adopting-holacracy-at-zappos-6664d70c0b5d</a><br>
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Self-organization: Do coercive mandates actually work?<br>
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If not: Is this what actually might scale? Is this what actually
might work?<br>
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<div>On 7/18/15 8:05 AM, Harrison via OSList
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Rosa
said...</span> “<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
do think it would be kinda fun for all of that
self-organizing that is already happening anyway, to come up
with some alternative structures to the regular old pyramids
we see all over the place...a bit of color in the landscape,
as it were...” <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Rosa
--There is a big secret. “All that self-organizing” is
coming up with new structures every moment. “Structure” is
actually an inaccurate way of talking about what is
happening... more like patterns or flow of energy. “Flash
framed” it does look like a structure, but that is really an
illusion. An artifact of our perception. But it sort of
works. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Anyhow,
it seems to me that there is some 13.7 billion years worth
of examples of just precisely what you are talking about. It
is only very recently that we (Homo sapiens) tried doing our
own thing. Lots of wonderful names (Process re-engineering,
etc) but precious little positive impact that I can see. Yes
I know sometimes it seems that these marvelous inventions of
ours seem to work...and of course lots of people make lots
of money maintaining the illusion. But in moments of
honesty, usually over a drink, everybody who has been
around, even for a little bit, is totally aware that nothing
ever happened according to the plan, design, etc... When
pushed for source, the usual answer (given very quietly) is
“The Informal System,” which by definition nobody organized.
And that drives Management to despair. In fact they try to
kill “the informal system” at every opportunity. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Amazing,
folks are busily containing, controlling, and destroying the
one thing that enables organizations to function. Is that
nuts? Seems to me that before we design anything new, it
would be well to sit quietly and fully appreciate what is
already there, and doing quite well. Thank you. And of
course if we want a speeded up, concentrated experience of
self organization in action, we know what to do. Works every
time as long as we don’t try to organize it. Wonderful!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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OSList [<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Rosa Zubizarreta via OSList</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 17, 2015 10:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniel Mezick; World wide Open Space Technology
email list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] Zappos Being Zapped<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Yes,
Daniel, as you wrote, "mandating a
process change is a recipe for
disaster."<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">REGARDLESS
of what the process is... <br>
but ESPECIALLY if it's one that's
supposed to "help people feel more
empowered". <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">for me, it's sad to see
what's happening at Zappo's.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">especially because i
happen to think that interlocking circles is
a fairly decent structure,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">as far as structures
go...<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm not so much of a fan of
the decision-making aspect of
holocracy/sociocracy...<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">but
the structural part feels fairly sound to me.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">i know the orthodoxy around
here is that "it's all self-organizing anyway"...<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">at the same time, I do think it
would be kinda fun for all of that self-organizing
that is already happening anyway,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">to come up with some alternative
structures to the regular old pyramids we see all over
the place...<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">a bit of color in the landscape, as
it were... <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">i guess
we're just not that evolved yet! :-) <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">with all
best wishes,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Daniel
Mezick via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sheesh. Yes, and...<br>
<br>
..I did some consulting for Zappos in prior years. As
part of that, I know Tony and have taken some meals with
him, some at his home. <br>
<br>
In early 2014, I had lunch with Tony and some of his
staff. A very dear friend arranged the meeting.<br>
<br>
The purpose was to introduce him to Open Space and
discuss how it might be a good tool for helping
encourage self-organization at the Downtown project
(DTP) and Zappos proper. During that meal, I left him
with a printed copy of the BRIEF GUIDE, and some
pictures of what OST in action looks like. Not too much
stuff, just enough to hopefully get him interested. A
kind of invitation as it were.<br>
<br>
At the time, he described some issues with "holacracy"
at the DTP and Zappos itself. I explained how OST might
actually be perfect given the situation an timing. I
left the meeting upbeat and thinking he might go all the
way. <br>
<br>
It didn't take. <br>
<br>
Later in March 2014, I wrote this:<br>
<a href="http://newtechusa.net/agile/the-mandate-of-holacracy-at-zappos/" target="_blank">http://newtechusa.net/agile/the-mandate-of-holacracy-at-zappos/</a><br>
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<br>
The self-organizing universe creates stories you just
cannot make up. <br>
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Example: <br>
<a href="https://pando.com/2015/07/08/staff-tony-hsiehs-downtown-project-voted-abandon-holacracy-nine-months-ago/fcbd6b7081af428b88d24fddd3fbadfbee6910ea/" target="_blank">https://pando.com/2015/07/08/staff-tony-hsiehs-downtown-project-voted-abandon-holacracy-nine-months-ago/fcbd6b7081af428b88d24fddd3fbadfbee6910ea/</a><br>
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Daniel <u></u><u></u></p>
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the New York Times: <a href="http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=InCMR7g4BCKC2wiZPkcVUlDMaFOsPrCW&user_id=d0877bb1019932ce3160783833511913&email_type=eta&task_id=1437166724712134®i_id=0" target="_blank"><b>http://nyti.ms/1Jn1nwh </b></a> Do
Love this story. Zappo is going to install
holarchical, self organizing management
systems. How many oxymoron’s can you get in one
sentence? And according to the Times, the big
problem is that nobody can understand what is
going on. Marvelous! – As bright as Homo sapiens
may be, we really don’t have clue when it comes
to the complex, interconnected world on which we
are momentarily passengers. But no worries. It
really doesn’t depend on “our understanding.” A
fact that “we” all experience each and every
time we have the privilege of “Opening Space.”
We don’t understand it. We don’t “do it.” Seems
to happen pretty much by itself. Just
marvelous... Holarchical, self organizing,
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