<div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">Hello everybody,</span><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">I am new to this list (applied in October) and fairly new using OS for facilitation - I am definitely a chick among you ;-)</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">Hence so far I was only lurking… feel I have nothing to contribute but to listen/read and learn (if my inbox is not full with other urgent things).</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">I liked the comment from Paul Levy and Michael Hermann to this OSList game and would like to reply to the questions from Michael.</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><blockquote type="cite">1. when did you first hear about os or ost?<br></blockquote>2009 at an Art of Hosting training<br><blockquote type="cite">2. what was the hook? how did you notice it might have value?<br></blockquote>I love the simplicity and the self-organisation. As well as the “honesty” how OS works because the first time as caller I had first non and at the end one participant - it she was the right person for me.</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">Further OS fits to my spiritual and business values in life.<br><blockquote type="cite">3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it inform how you live?<br></blockquote>During an OS training I realised that this is exactly the method I love to use and personally need more because I learn more and more how to let go and trust the process of the team. The principles are perfect guidelines in every gathering too!<br><blockquote type="cite">4. what has happened since then? what difference does it seem to make?</blockquote>…listening, observing, waiting. Everything needs its time. If I pull on the grass it will not grow faster ;-)</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">Regarding readability in this OSList:</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">Is there the technical possibility if someone replies to an email (that was already a reply to one or more other emails) to hid the original email(s)?</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">A kind of drop down menu that I can open optional the emails below to which it is referring?</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">I would feel that this would make it easier to read it. Otherwise I get lost when I scroll down… and usually never get until the end because it is so long.</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">Best wishes & warm regards from Kenya,</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">Judith</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">NB: sorry for the late response but first I faced technical problems and than I was on holidays</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><div><div><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></b></div><div><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Art of Hosting Kenya<br></b><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Bikundo Onyari & Judith Stemerdink-Herret<div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Phone: Bikundo +254 721 339 389</div><div dir="ltr"> Judith +254 788 516 866<br></div><div dir="ltr">Facebook Group: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/660375360688912/" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/groups/660375360688912/</a> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.artofhosting.org/home/" target="_blank">www.artofhosting.org</a><br><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div><i>"If the branch is to flower, it must honour its roots."</i></div><div dir="ltr"> African Proverb</div></div></div></div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><br>Am 11.12.2014 um 00:25 schrieb Daniel Mezick via OSList:<br><blockquote type="cite">Some of us were on a call on Tuesday, talking about Open Space....and<br>OSLIST....<br><br>...the participants at the time were....<br><br>Chuni Li<br>Daniel Mezick<br>Karen Davis<br>Linda Stevenson<br>Lucas Cioffi<br>Paul Levy<br>Peggy Holman<br>Skye Hirst<br>Suzanne Daigle<br>Tricia Chirumbole<br>Harold Shinsato<br><br>We discussed OSLIST culture, and how the culture of OSLIST may not<br>actually be very easy to figure out...<br><br>...we talked about how this list has hundreds upon hundreds of members,<br>with just 25 to 45 people (give or take) who post or reply with anything<br>close to a regular frequency, and how some speak with highly<br>authoritative voices.<br><br>...we talked a bit about how the culture of OSLIST /might actually be<br>kind of intimidating for new people/ to participate in.<br><br><br>The Game<br><br>We have no idea how many "regular lurkers" are in the group...we talked<br>about trying to find out.<br><br><br>So: if you are a "regular lurker", someone who examines these OSLIST<br>threads periodically but does not actively participate ... are you<br>willing to play a little game?<br><br><br>The Lurker Game: you are invited to play...<br><br>1. *...The goal* is to collectively get some idea of how many of us on<br>the list are "regular lurkers".<br><br>2. *...The rules* are:<br><br> * If you consider yourself a "regular lurker", consider opting in to<br> the game, by replying...<br> * If you reply, absolutely nothing further will be asked of you. All<br> you are doing is identifying yourself as someone who lurks. That's it.<br><br>3. ...We'll all track *the progress* by watching the thread, and seeing<br>how many reply over time.<br><br>4. ...Participation is *opt-in*.<br><br><br><br>To participate, just hit [Reply List] and enter "hey" and press [Enter]<br>...or...<br><br>... (optionally) just say whatever you might want to say, instead<br><br>We have no idea what might happen next; let's see what develops.<br><br>Thanks!<br>Daniel<br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><br><br></blockquote><br><br>Message: 10<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 10:46:58 +0000<br>From: paul levy via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>To: Daniel Mezick <<a href="mailto:dan@newtechusa.net">dan@newtechusa.net</a>>, <span class="" style="white-space:pre"> </span>World wide Open Space<br><span class="" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Technology email list<span class="" style="white-space:pre"> </span><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br>Message-ID:<br><span class="" style="white-space:pre"> </span><<a href="mailto:CAAnJsbDWSae93m3bQL99m5fBvNP5ZF9okCsZ9Wv03e7rXa3XgA@mail.gmail.com">CAAnJsbDWSae93m3bQL99m5fBvNP5ZF9okCsZ9Wv03e7rXa3XgA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>I've facilictated around 50 gatherings using Open Space Technology.<br><br>And therein lies a possible interesting conundrum.<br><br>Because I have open space thousands of times. I have also never opened<br>space quite like the next time it is going to happen. So the number if many<br>and zero.<br><br>I've also opened space improvising around open space technology. And Open<br>Space Technology has changed around me. Self-organisation has tinkered with<br>the "recipe" - the one in the guide. But that gets talked about a lot less<br>on this list and, increasingly, a bunch of "open spacer" are sharing those<br>stories elsewhere.<br><br>There is no such thing as open space technology. There is no guide. There<br>is no "founder", there are no gatekeepers; yet there are all of these<br>things.<br><br>Tomorrow might just be my first ever Open Space.<br><br>warm wishes<br><br>Paul Levy<br><br><br><br><br>Message: 14<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 10:26:16 -0600<br>From: Michael Herman via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>To: Eva P Svensson <<a href="mailto:eva@epshumaninvest.se">eva@epshumaninvest.se</a>>, <span class="" style="white-space:pre"> </span>World wide Open Space<br><span class="" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Technology email list<span class="" style="white-space:pre"> </span><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br>Message-ID:<br><span class="" style="white-space:pre"> </span><<a href="mailto:CAD8j=QFstho2LWdB2LbGa=SR6+uz2NUoGTDyYUEP3kShHxW1aw@mail.gmail.com">CAD8j=QFstho2LWdB2LbGa=SR6+uz2NUoGTDyYUEP3kShHxW1aw@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>i woke up this morning thinking about this game, thinking in a direction<br>similar to paul levy.<br><br>i am the nominal leader of a community garden now for four years. my<br>management is deeply informed by my learning in and about open space. does<br>it count as 1 or 4?<br><br>i once had a client who flew me in to facilitate a meeting. we also built<br>a weblog and they contacted me a number of times, over several years, with<br>minor technical questions. do the meeting and the blog count as one<br>together, or two separate?<br><br>i taught my grandma to say "ah," as she began the active process of dying.<br>she then repeated that seed syllable, a one-syllable mantra for peace, on<br>every breath of her last week of life. she never opened her eyes but over<br>that week completely relaxed her whole body. was that open space? what<br>about up all night rocking a tiny, sick, neice?<br><br>i saw some new neighbors moving in the other day. our neighborhood has a<br>lot of old houses and everybody moves in and starts updating everything. i<br>offered my tools and experience. if they never take me up on that<br>offer/invitation, does it count? what if they just look for me at my desk<br>in our front window, and wave when they see me, while out walking their<br>dog? that could happen a lot. must count as only once? or maybe it<br>doesn't count at all?<br><br>what about three opening briefings, on three consecutive days of open space<br>trainings i've done? and what about all the things that happen after an<br>event, does the original opener get partial credit for things his/her<br>participants open later on?<br><br>to paul's point, i can ask questions like this about almost every situation<br>where i facilitated a meeting in an open space way, and about many other<br>situations where i was not "facilitating" anything, apparently. this is<br>one of the ways i understand that we live in open space.<br><br>my approach to training folks in and about open space is significantly<br>focused on the crafting of invitations, in the belief that if we make<br>enough invitations, over time, people, groups and good work are going to<br>show up.<br><br>i also focus on discovering all the different ways that whomever i'm<br>"training" has already been opening space in their own lives. i don't<br>think anyone could come to this work without having already done it before.<br>it would be completely un-understandable to them without prior experience.<br>i think people ask for training so they can do what they already know/do<br>better. so i try to build on and from whatever understanding they bring.<br><br>so this question of seven or more is not so easy for me. not sure it's<br>even helpful. i'm more interested in questions like:<br><br>1. when did you first hear about os or ost?<br>2. what was the hook? how did you notice it might have value?<br>3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it inform how you live?<br>4. what has happened since then? what difference does it seem to make?<br><br>and so on. a new game? the next round? maybe. or maybe it's just the<br>game Murli called OSLIST back in 1996?<br><br>michael<br><br>--<br><br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates<br>312-280-7838 (mobile)<br><br><a href="http://michaelherman.com/">http://MichaelHerman.com</a><br><a href="http://openspaceworld.org/">http://OpenSpaceWorld.org</a></blockquote></div></div>
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