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    Welcome, Judith! <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/6/15 5:28 AM, AoH Kenya via OSList
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAKH_MwavuORUsngx-_aBbxOtkW2ORU-dswr2ZpO9_e4R1EVmPw@mail.gmail.com"
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          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">Hello
          everybody,</span>
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          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">I
          am new to this list (applied in October) and fairly new using
          OS for facilitation - I am definitely a chick among you ;-)</div>
        <div
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">Hence
          so far I was only lurking… feel I have nothing to contribute
          but to listen/read and learn (if my inbox is not full with
          other urgent things).</div>
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          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">I
          liked the comment from Paul Levy and Michael Hermann to this
          OSList game and would like to reply to the questions from
          Michael.</div>
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          <blockquote type="cite">1. when did you first hear about os or
            ost?<br>
          </blockquote>
          2009 at an Art of Hosting training<br>
          <blockquote type="cite">2. what was the hook?  how did you
            notice it might have value?<br>
          </blockquote>
          I love the simplicity and the self-organisation. As well as
          the “honesty” how OS works because the first time as caller I
          had first non and at the end one participant - it she was the
          right person for me.</div>
        <div
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">Further
          OS fits to my spiritual and business values in life.<br>
          <blockquote type="cite">3. when did you notice that you'd
            started letting it inform how you live?<br>
          </blockquote>
          During an OS training I realised that this is exactly the
          method I love to use and personally need more because I learn
          more and more how to let go and trust the process of the team.
          The principles are perfect guidelines in every gathering too!<br>
          <blockquote type="cite">4. what has happened since then?  what
            difference does it seem to make?</blockquote>
          …listening, observing, waiting. Everything needs its time. If
          I pull on the grass it will not grow faster ;-)</div>
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          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">Regarding
          readability in this OSList:</div>
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          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">Is
          there the technical possibility if someone replies to an email
          (that was already a reply to one or more other emails) to hid
          the original email(s)?</div>
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          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">A
          kind of drop down menu that I can open optional the emails
          below to which it is referring?</div>
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          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">I
          would feel that this would make it easier to read it.
          Otherwise I get lost when I scroll down… and usually never get
          until the end because it is so long.</div>
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          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">Best
          wishes & warm regards from Kenya,</div>
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          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">Judith</div>
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          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">NB:
          sorry for the late response but first I faced technical
          problems and than I was on holidays</div>
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            <blockquote type="cite"><br>
              Am 11.12.2014 um 00:25 schrieb Daniel Mezick via OSList:<br>
              <blockquote type="cite">Some of us were on a call on
                Tuesday, talking about Open Space....and<br>
                OSLIST....<br>
                <br>
                ...the participants at the time were....<br>
                <br>
                Chuni Li<br>
                Daniel Mezick<br>
                Karen Davis<br>
                Linda Stevenson<br>
                Lucas Cioffi<br>
                Paul Levy<br>
                Peggy Holman<br>
                Skye Hirst<br>
                Suzanne Daigle<br>
                Tricia Chirumbole<br>
                Harold Shinsato<br>
                <br>
                We discussed OSLIST culture, and how the culture of
                OSLIST may not<br>
                actually be very easy to figure out...<br>
                <br>
                ...we talked about how this list has hundreds upon
                hundreds of members,<br>
                with just 25 to 45 people (give or take) who post or
                reply with anything<br>
                close to a regular frequency, and how some speak with
                highly<br>
                authoritative voices.<br>
                <br>
                ...we talked a bit about how the culture of OSLIST
                /might actually be<br>
                kind of intimidating for new people/ to participate in.<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                The Game<br>
                <br>
                We have no idea how many "regular lurkers" are in the
                group...we talked<br>
                about trying to find out.<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                So: if you are a "regular lurker", someone who examines
                these OSLIST<br>
                threads periodically but does not actively participate
                ...  are you<br>
                willing to play a little game?<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                The Lurker Game: you are invited to play...<br>
                <br>
                1. *...The goal* is to collectively get some idea of how
                many of us on<br>
                the list are "regular lurkers".<br>
                <br>
                2. *...The rules* are:<br>
                <br>
                 * If you consider yourself a "regular lurker", consider
                opting in to<br>
                   the game, by replying...<br>
                 * If you reply, absolutely nothing further will be
                asked of you. All<br>
                   you are doing is identifying yourself as someone who
                lurks. That's it.<br>
                <br>
                3. ...We'll all track *the progress* by watching the
                thread, and seeing<br>
                how many reply over time.<br>
                <br>
                4. ...Participation is *opt-in*.<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <br>
                To participate, just hit [Reply List] and enter "hey"
                and press [Enter]<br>
                ...or...<br>
                <br>
                ... (optionally) just say whatever you might want to
                say, instead<br>
                <br>
                We have no idea what might happen next; let's see what
                develops.<br>
                <br>
                Thanks!<br>
                Daniel<br>
                <br>
                <br>
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              Message: 10<br>
              Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 10:46:58 +0000<br>
              From: paul levy via OSList <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>
              To: Daniel Mezick <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:dan@newtechusa.net">dan@newtechusa.net</a>>, <span
                class="" style="white-space:pre"> </span>World wide
              Open Space<br>
              <span class="" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Technology
              email list<span class="" style="white-space:pre"> </span><<a
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              Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST
              events?<br>
              Message-ID:<br>
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              I've facilictated around 50 gatherings using Open Space
              Technology.<br>
              <br>
              And therein lies a possible interesting conundrum.<br>
              <br>
              Because I have open space thousands of times. I have also
              never opened<br>
              space quite like the next time it is going to happen. So
              the number if many<br>
              and zero.<br>
              <br>
              I've also opened space improvising around open space
              technology. And Open<br>
              Space Technology has changed around me. Self-organisation
              has tinkered with<br>
              the "recipe" - the one in the guide. But that gets talked
              about a lot less<br>
              on this list and, increasingly, a bunch of "open spacer"
              are sharing those<br>
              stories elsewhere.<br>
              <br>
              There is no such thing as open space technology. There is
              no guide. There<br>
              is no "founder", there are no gatekeepers; yet there are
              all of these<br>
              things.<br>
              <br>
              Tomorrow might just be my first ever Open Space.<br>
              <br>
              warm wishes<br>
              <br>
              Paul Levy<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              Message: 14<br>
              Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 10:26:16 -0600<br>
              From: Michael Herman via OSList <<a
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              To: Eva P Svensson <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:eva@epshumaninvest.se">eva@epshumaninvest.se</a>>, <span
                class="" style="white-space:pre"> </span>World wide
              Open Space<br>
              <span class="" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Technology
              email list<span class="" style="white-space:pre"> </span><<a
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              Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST
              events?<br>
              Message-ID:<br>
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              i woke up this morning thinking about this game, thinking
              in a direction<br>
              similar to paul levy.<br>
              <br>
              i am the nominal leader of a community garden now for four
              years.  my<br>
              management is deeply informed by my learning in and about
              open space.  does<br>
              it count as 1 or 4?<br>
              <br>
              i once had a client who flew me in to facilitate a
              meeting.  we also built<br>
              a weblog and they contacted me a number of times, over
              several years, with<br>
              minor technical questions.  do the meeting and the blog
              count as one<br>
              together, or two separate?<br>
              <br>
              i taught my grandma to say "ah," as she began the active
              process of dying.<br>
              she then repeated that seed syllable, a one-syllable
              mantra for peace, on<br>
              every breath of her last week of life.  she never opened
              her eyes but over<br>
              that week completely relaxed her whole body.  was that
              open space?  what<br>
              about up all night rocking a tiny, sick, neice?<br>
              <br>
              i saw some new neighbors moving in the other day.  our
              neighborhood has a<br>
              lot of old houses and everybody moves in and starts
              updating everything.  i<br>
              offered my tools and experience.  if they never take me up
              on that<br>
              offer/invitation, does it count?  what if they just look
              for me at my desk<br>
              in our front window, and wave when they see me, while out
              walking their<br>
              dog?  that could happen a lot.  must count as only once?
               or maybe it<br>
              doesn't count at all?<br>
              <br>
              what about three opening briefings, on three consecutive
              days of open space<br>
              trainings i've done?  and what about all the things that
              happen after an<br>
              event, does the original opener get partial credit for
              things his/her<br>
              participants open later on?<br>
              <br>
              to paul's point, i can ask questions like this about
              almost every situation<br>
              where i facilitated a meeting in an open space way, and
              about many other<br>
              situations where i was not "facilitating" anything,
              apparently.  this is<br>
              one of the ways i understand that we live in open space.<br>
              <br>
              my approach to training folks in and about open space is
              significantly<br>
              focused on the crafting of invitations, in the belief that
              if we make<br>
              enough invitations, over time, people, groups and good
              work are going to<br>
              show up.<br>
              <br>
              i also focus on discovering all the different ways that
              whomever i'm<br>
              "training" has already been opening space in their own
              lives.  i don't<br>
              think anyone could come to this work without having
              already done it before.<br>
              it would be completely un-understandable to them without
              prior experience.<br>
              i think people ask for training so they can do what they
              already know/do<br>
              better.  so i try to build on and from whatever
              understanding they bring.<br>
              <br>
              so this question of seven or more is not so easy for me.
               not sure it's<br>
              even helpful.  i'm more interested in questions like:<br>
              <br>
              1. when did you first hear about os or ost?<br>
              2. what was the hook?  how did you notice it might have
              value?<br>
              3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it
              inform how you live?<br>
              4. what has happened since then?  what difference does it
              seem to make?<br>
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              and so on.  a new game?  the next round?  maybe.  or maybe
              it's just the<br>
              game Murli called OSLIST back in 1996?<br>
              <br>
              michael<br>
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