<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Well, I have facilitated at least 7 OST events.<div>and I enjoy the culture of reflections in the list,</div><div>Ingrid<br><div><br></div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><div><div><br></div></div></div></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div>Am 15.12.2014 um 01:09 schrieb Juana Anguita via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Hey! Im a "lurcker" and "learner"<br><br>-----Mensaje original-----<br>De: OSList [<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] En nombre de via<br>OSList<br>Enviado el: domingo, 14 de diciembre de 2014 19:17<br>Para: <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>Asunto: OSList Digest, Vol 46, Issue 17<br><br>Send OSList mailing list submissions to<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>oslist-request@lists.openspacetech.org<br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>oslist-owner@lists.openspacetech.org<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?<br> (Markus Wittwer via OSList)<br> 2. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br> (Bhavesh Patel via OSList)<br> 3. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br> (NigelSeys-Phillips via OSList)<br> 4. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br> (Daniel Mezick via OSList)<br> 5. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br> (Elwin and Joan via OSList)<br> 6. Re: ?regular lurker? + our OSTLIST web platform<br> (Elwin and Joan via OSList)<br> 7. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br> (Tova Averbuch via OSList)<br> 8. Re: Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?<br> (Tova Averbuch via OSList)<br> 9. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br> (Arno Baltin via OSList)<br> 10. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br> (paul levy via OSList)<br> 11. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br> (Koos de Heer via OSList)<br> 12. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br> (Thomas Herrmann via OSList)<br> 13. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br> (Eva P Svensson via OSList)<br> 14. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br> (Michael Herman via OSList)<br> 15. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events? (via OSList)<br> 16. Re: Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?<br> (Francois Knuchel via OSList)<br> 17. Community Gardens (Annamarie Pluhar via OSList)<br> 18. Re: How do we define LURKER? (Peggy Holman via OSList)<br> 19. Re: Community Gardens (Michael Herman via OSList)<br> 20. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br> (Suzanne Daigle via OSList)<br> 21. Re: Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br> (Peggy Holman via OSList)<br> 22. Re: How do we define LURKER? (ingrid ebeling ebus via OSList)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 01:19:30 +0100<br>From: Markus Wittwer via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: Daniel Mezick <dan@newtechusa.net>, <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>World wide Open Space<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Technology email list<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?<br>Message-ID: <548CD792.2060504@web.de><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed<br><br>Lurk...<br><br>Am 11.12.2014 um 00:25 schrieb Daniel Mezick via OSList:<br><blockquote type="cite">Some of us were on a call on Tuesday, talking about Open Space....and<br>OSLIST....<br><br>...the participants at the time were....<br><br>Chuni Li<br>Daniel Mezick<br>Karen Davis<br>Linda Stevenson<br>Lucas Cioffi<br>Paul Levy<br>Peggy Holman<br>Skye Hirst<br>Suzanne Daigle<br>Tricia Chirumbole<br>Harold Shinsato<br><br>We discussed OSLIST culture, and how the culture of OSLIST may not<br>actually be very easy to figure out...<br><br>...we talked about how this list has hundreds upon hundreds of members,<br>with just 25 to 45 people (give or take) who post or reply with anything<br>close to a regular frequency, and how some speak with highly<br>authoritative voices.<br><br>...we talked a bit about how the culture of OSLIST /might actually be<br>kind of intimidating for new people/ to participate in.<br><br><br>The Game<br><br>We have no idea how many "regular lurkers" are in the group...we talked<br>about trying to find out.<br><br><br>So: if you are a "regular lurker", someone who examines these OSLIST<br>threads periodically but does not actively participate ... are you<br>willing to play a little game?<br><br><br>The Lurker Game: you are invited to play...<br><br>1. *...The goal* is to collectively get some idea of how many of us on<br>the list are "regular lurkers".<br><br>2. *...The rules* are:<br><br> * If you consider yourself a "regular lurker", consider opting in to<br> the game, by replying...<br> * If you reply, absolutely nothing further will be asked of you. All<br> you are doing is identifying yourself as someone who lurks. That's it.<br><br>3. ...We'll all track *the progress* by watching the thread, and seeing<br>how many reply over time.<br><br>4. ...Participation is *opt-in*.<br><br><br><br>To participate, just hit [Reply List] and enter "hey" and press [Enter]<br>...or...<br><br>... (optionally) just say whatever you might want to say, instead<br><br>We have no idea what might happen next; let's see what develops.<br><br>Thanks!<br>Daniel<br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br><br></blockquote><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 02:43:31 +0200<br>From: Bhavesh Patel via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: Daniel Mezick <dan@newtechusa.net>, <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>World wide Open Space<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Technology email list<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br>Message-ID:<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><CAAho4421VVeVKRNgVC1oGmJcN0dFqNn8CuO6rhTzTs8gv58a2A@mail.gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>?Around 50... just finished one today in Kiev!<br><br><br><br>On 13 December 2014 at 18:34, Daniel Mezick via OSList <<br>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.<br><br>...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience<br>being reported!<br><br>So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ...<br>*explore....*<br><br>So: if you want, *you are cordially invited* to play ... let's call it<br>the OST-7 Game:<br><br><br>========================================<br>*The OST-7** Game*<br>========================================<br><br>*The Goal:*<br>Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7<br>or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth<br></blockquote>of<br><blockquote type="cite">practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership?<br><br>*The Rules:*<br>If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with<br>"hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to<br>say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair<br>color, etc<br><br>*Tracking Progress:*<br>Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # of<br>OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or<br>absolutely any other measures you like<br><br>*Play:*<br>100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer<br>to just watch the game, that's OK too.<br><br>========================================<br><br><br><br>Notes:<br><br> - For this game, "OST" means something like this:<br> http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm<br> - This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've<br> Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime.<br> - Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread<br> stays together, under the same subject<br><br><br>Steps to Play:<br><br> - Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]<br> - Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to<br> say<br><br><br>You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see...<br><br>Daniel<br><br>--<br><br>Daniel Mezick, President<br><br>New Technology Solutions Inc.<br><br>(203) 915 7248 (cell)<br><br>Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog<br><http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter<br><http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.<br><br>Examine my new book: The Culture Game<br><http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the Agile<br>Manager.<br><br>Explore Agile Team Training<br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.<br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/><br><br>Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/><br>Community.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br><br><br></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen<br>ts/20141214/b3bcc73b/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:19:34 +0800<br>From: NigelSeys-Phillips via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: "'Daniel Mezick'" <dan@newtechusa.net>,<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>"'World wide Open Space<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Technology email list'"<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br>Message-ID: <008001d0173c$05819780$1084c680$@com.sg><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Hair colour is an interesting concept??seems to have been getting a lot<br>greyer with time?..<br><br><br><br>Yes indeed ? comfortably over 7 (if not massively so) and still going J<br><br><blockquote type="cite">From 12 ? 250?street children to business executives<br></blockquote><br><br><br>All fun and all Open<br><br><br><br>Oh yes ? it?s hot again here in Malaysia J<br><br><br><br>Nigel<br><br><br><br>Nigel Seys-Phillips<br><br>Fulcrum Business Management Solutions<br><br>Tel: +65 9639 2510<br><br>E-mail: nigel@fulcrum.com.sg<br><br>www.fulcrum.com.sg<br><br><br><br>CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE<br><br><br><br>This communication contains information which is confidential and may also<br>be priveleged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If<br>you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any distribution,<br>copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly<br>prohibited. If you have received this communication in error please notify<br>us by return e-mail and then delete the e-mail and any copies of it.<br><br><br><br>Warning - Although Fulcrum has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no<br>viruses are present in this e-mail, we cannot accept responsibility for any<br>loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or its attachments.<br><br><br><br><br><br>From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of<br>Daniel Mezick via OSList<br>Sent: Sunday, 14 December 2014 12:34 AM<br>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list<br>Subject: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br><br><br><br>Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.<br><br>...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience being<br>reported! <br><br>So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ... explore....<br><br>So: if you want, you are cordially invited to play ... let's call it the<br>OST-7 Game:<br><br><br>========================================<br>The OST-7 Game<br>========================================<br><br>The Goal:<br>Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7 or<br>more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth of<br>practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership?<br><br>The Rules:<br>If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with "hey"<br>... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to say, for<br>example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair color, etc<br><br>Tracking Progress:<br>Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # of<br>OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or<br>absolutely any other measures you like<br><br>Play:<br>100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer to<br>just watch the game, that's OK too. <br><br>========================================<br><br><br><br>Notes:<br><br>*<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>For this game, "OST" means something like this:<br>http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm<br>*<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've<br>Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime.<br>*<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread<br>stays together, under the same subject<br><br><br>Steps to Play:<br><br>*<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]<br>*<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to<br>say<br><br><br>You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see...<br><br>Daniel<br><br>-- <br><br><br><br>Daniel Mezick, President<br><br>New Technology Solutions Inc.<br><br>(203) 915 7248 (cell)<br><br>Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/> . <http://newtechusa.net/blog/><br>Blog. <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/> Twitter. <br><br>Examine my new book: <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/><br>The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager.<br><br>Explore Agile Team <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/><br>Training and <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/><br>Coaching.<br><br>Explore the <http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/> Agile Boston Community.<br><br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen<br>ts/20141214/d8efbc1c/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 21:48:30 -0500<br>From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br>Message-ID: <548CFA7E.4010409@newtechusa.net><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br><br>I used have more hair, and it used to be blond. I think I have <br>Facilitated about 14 or 15 Open Space events in all since about 2009. <br>Since then I've also been responsible for helping arrange many others.<br><br><br>I am primarily interested in bringing the genuine spirit and practice of <br>Open Space into Agile adoptions. This is a huge uphill effort. Most all <br>Agile adoptions are authoritative top-down mandates of practices, <br>instead of inviting and engaging explorations of core principles. As <br>such, I think we might have a big opportunity there, to authentically <br>open up some space, and make a big impact.<br><br> * I used to program computers and teach other folks how to do it for a<br> living. I have a software patent.<br> http://www.google.com/patents/US5872974<br> * Lately I've been drawn to biology and the emerging science of<br> epigenetics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics<br> * I entertain many controversial theories, for example:<br> http://www.panspermia.org/intro.htm.<br><br><br>My Dad was always fond of saying: "you're really good at collecting some <br>very offbeat friends."<br><br>That's certainly been my experience here...<br><br>Daniel<br><br><br>On 12/13/14 8:19 PM, NigelSeys-Phillips wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>Hair colour is an interesting concept??seems to have been getting a <br>lot greyer with time?..<br><br>Yes indeed ? comfortably over 7 (if not massively so) and still going J<br><br>From 12 ? 250?street children to business executives<br><br>All fun and all Open<br><br>Oh yes ? it?s hot again here in Malaysia J<br><br>Nigel<br><br>Nigel Seys-Phillips<br><br>Fulcrum Business Management Solutions<br><br>Tel: +65 9639 2510<br><br>E-mail: nigel@fulcrum.com.sg <mailto:nigel@fulcrum.com.sg><br><br>www.fulcrum.com.sg<br><br>CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE<br><br>This communication contains information which is confidential and may <br>also be priveleged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended <br>recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note <br>that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the <br>information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this <br>communication in error please notify us by return e-mail and then <br>delete the e-mail and any copies of it.<br><br>Warning - Although Fulcrum has taken reasonable precautions to ensure <br>no viruses are present in this e-mail, we cannot accept responsibility <br>for any loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or its <br>attachments.<br><br>*From:*OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] *On <br>Behalf Of *Daniel Mezick via OSList<br>*Sent:* Sunday, 14 December 2014 12:34 AM<br>*To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list<br>*Subject:* [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br><br>Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.<br><br>...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience <br>being reported!<br><br>So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ... <br>/explore..../<br><br>So: if you want, /you are cordially invited/ to play ... let's call it <br>the OST-7 Game:<br><br><br>========================================<br>*The OST-7 Game*<br>========================================<br><br>*The Goal:*<br>Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually <br>Facilitated 7 or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: <br>what is the depth of practical OST facilitation experience across the <br>entire membership?<br><br>*The Rules:*<br>If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with <br>"hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like <br>to say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, <br>your hair color, etc<br><br>*Tracking Progress:*<br>Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, <br># of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, <br>or absolutely any other measures you like<br>*<br>Play:*<br>100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and <br>prefer to just watch the game, that's OK too.<br><br>========================================<br><br><br><br>Notes:<br><br> * For this game, "OST" means something like this:<br> http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm<br> * This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've<br> Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime.<br> * Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the<br> thread stays together, under the same subject<br><br><br>Steps to Play:<br><br> * Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]<br> * Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like<br> to say<br><br><br>You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see...<br><br>Daniel<br><br>-- <br><br>Daniel Mezick, President<br><br>New Technology Solutions Inc.<br><br>(203) 915 7248 (cell)<br><br>Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog <br><http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter <br><http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.<br><br>Examine my new book:The Culture Game <br><http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the <br>Agile Manager.<br><br>Explore Agile Team Training <br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. <br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/><br><br>Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/>Community.<br><br></blockquote><br>-- <br><br>Daniel Mezick, President<br><br>New Technology Solutions Inc.<br><br>(203) 915 7248 (cell)<br><br>Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog <br><http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.<br><br>Examine my new book:The Culture Game <br><http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the <br>Agile Manager.<br><br>Explore Agile Team Training <br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. <br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/><br><br>Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>Community.<br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen<br>ts/20141213/c7e33e43/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 5<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 03:05:35 +0000 (UTC)<br>From: Elwin and Joan via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: Daniel Mezick <dan@newtechusa.net>, <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>World wide Open Space<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Technology email list<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br>Message-ID:<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br><444791752.215425.1418526335304.JavaMail.yahoo@jws100201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>too many to count<br><br> From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> <br>Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 11:34 AM<br>Subject: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br><br>Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.<br><br>...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience being<br>reported! <br><br>So interesting ... so much depth.? Seems like something to ... explore....<br><br>So: if you want, you are cordially invited to play ... let's call it the<br>OST-7 Game:<br><br><br>========================================<br>The OST-7 Game<br>========================================<br><br>The Goal:<br>Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7<br>or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth of<br>practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership?<br><br>The Rules:<br>If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with "hey"<br>... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to say, for<br>example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair color, etc<br><br>Tracking Progress:<br>Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # of<br>OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or<br>absolutely any other measures you like<br><br>Play:<br>100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer<br>to just watch the game, that's OK too. <br><br>========================================<br><br><br><br>Notes:<br><br> - For this game, "OST" means something like this:<br>http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm <br><br> - This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've Facilitated<br>at least 7 of these events in your lifetime. <br><br> - Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread<br>stays together, under the same subject<br><br>Steps to Play:<br><br> - Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]<br> - Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to say<br><br><br><br>You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see...<br><br><br><br>Daniel<br><br>-- <br>#yiv0824750254 p.yiv0824750254p1 {margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px<br>0.0px;font:14.0px Arial;}#yiv0824750254 p.yiv0824750254p2 {margin:0.0px<br>0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:14.0px Arial;color:#0000ee;}#yiv0824750254<br>p.yiv0824750254p3 {margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:14.0px<br>Arial;color:#1a37ee;}#yiv0824750254 span.yiv0824750254s1<br>{text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0824750254 span.yiv0824750254s2<br>{color:#000000;}#yiv0824750254 span.yiv0824750254s3<br>{text-decoration:underline;color:#0000ee;}Daniel Mezick, President New<br>Technology Solutions Inc. (203) 915 7248 (cell) Bio. Blog. Twitter.? Examine<br>my new book:? The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager. Explore Agile<br>Team Training and Coaching. Explore the Agile Boston Community.? <br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br><br><br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen<br>ts/20141214/af64a0a3/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 6<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 03:10:34 +0000 (UTC)<br>From: Elwin and Joan via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: Michael Herman <michael@michaelherman.com>, <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>World wide Open<br>Space<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Technology email list<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] ?regular lurker? + our OSTLIST web platform<br>Message-ID:<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br><1648439348.209475.1418526634418.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10057.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Michael, <br><br>You sir are truly a give of God. <br><br>We all are in your debt.<br>Elwin Guild<br><br> From: Michael Herman via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: Patricia Haines <levelgreen2010@gmail.com>; World wide Open Space<br>Technology email list <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> <br>Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 1:22 PM<br>Subject: Re: [OSList] ?regular lurker? + our OSTLIST web platform<br><br>I think it was about 1998 when murkier, who started the list at boise state<br>univ, suggested moving the list to a fancy up-and-coming platform called<br>egroups. It was a threaded discussion email site. In my memory, must be the<br>biggest and most energized conversation we ever had on this list. In the<br>end, it was rejected. And where is egroups today?<br>At openspaceworld.org, since 1999, we have had discussion forums, wiki,<br>wordpress group blog, but the I think the best thing we did was that I wrote<br>some "about OST" stuff and artur de silva suggested that it ought to be in<br>languages other than English. He volunteered to do Spanish andPortuguese,<br>others did their languages too. The tasks were simple and defined and got<br>done whenever anyone came forward and offered something. Now we have links<br>to intro material in 17 languages I think. All completely unplanned,<br>but?supported by just?keeping the site online.?<br>In the meantime, there is a Wikipedia page, a Facebook group, a Ning<br>community, the os hotline,?and any number of regional lists and groups and<br>meet ups of various shapes and frequencies.?<br>it's easy to design and build a site or platform, but yet another thing to<br>keep it going and up to date. And I don't think we can?build anything and<br>expect it to both replace an established community center and also grow past<br>it, succeeding where every past effort has not.?<br>At the same time, none of those prior offerings really set out to replace<br>anything, I think. They all just offered something else. And that is an<br>approach that seems very open spacey to me, to just do something, try<br>something, offer something and see what happens. It might displace<br>everything or nothing, but that won't matter. It's the offering, I think,<br>that keep us going.?<br>I'm glad to offer sub domain space at openspaceworld.org for anything that<br>wants building and trying. Done this with many language wikis over the<br>years.?<br>I'm also getting ready to cleanup at openspaceworld.org, so anyone who wants<br>to help think and do about that is welcome. It's the one big site/platform<br>we have that's completely unconstrained by the structures imposed by service<br>companies like Facebook. So we can do anything we want there to tie all the<br>other things together, as long as we also find a way to maintain past<br>contributions.?<br>I always keep looking for ways for openspaceworld.org to virtually<br>disappear, into just a set of links, something michael pannwitz suggested to<br>me when the site was still just six months old, and in that way to suggest<br>and?demonstrate?that os is much bigger than any of these platforms.?<br>Michael<br><br><br><br><br>On Saturday, December 13, 2014, Patricia Haines via OSList<br><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><br>Please don't replace this listserv with something complicated!<br><br>Level Green Institute: fostering just & sustainable community through<br>education and the arts<br>On Dec 13, 2014, at 5:35 AM, Arturo Uscategui-Colaboremos via OSList<br><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><br><br><br>Dear All,And what ifwe set a team to design, develop, deliver and maintain<br>our new wonderful OSTLIST web platform,which will be up to the requirements<br>to replace this OSLIST?This teamcould work on an Agile way. I?ll behappy to<br>contribute. I don?t know exactly how, but I?ll be there to do it<br>togetherwith those who wish to do it also. ;)ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT FROM<br>WITHIN<br>www.colaboremos.com?Arturo Usc?tegui Restrepo<br>Transition Facilitator Specialized in Organizational Development.?<br>Helping organizations to collaborate and find their own solutions from<br>within+33 (0)6 52 14 29 09Skype: auscateguirTwitter: @icolaboremosLinked in<br>: fr.linkedin.com/in/arturouscategui/<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br><br><br><br><br>-- <br>?<br>--<br><br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates<br>312-280-7838 (mobile)<br><br>http://MichaelHerman.com<br>http://OpenSpaceWorld.org<br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br><br><br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen<br>ts/20141214/085e45bd/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 7<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 08:45:35 +0200<br>From: Tova Averbuch via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: Bhavesh Patel <bhavmail@gmail.com>,<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>World wide Open Space<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Technology email list<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br>Message-ID: <4F8FAD61-A97A-4305-971A-EC14DCBC8F74@gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>About 500. Since 1999 <br>Tova Averbuch<br><br>???? ??-iPhone ???<br><br>?-Dec 14, 2014, ???? 2:43, Bhavesh Patel via OSList<br><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> ???/?:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">?Around 50... just finished one today in Kiev!<br><br><br><br>On 13 December 2014 at 18:34, Daniel Mezick via OSList<br></blockquote><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.<br><br>...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience<br></blockquote></blockquote>being reported! <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ...<br></blockquote></blockquote>explore....<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>So: if you want, you are cordially invited to play ... let's call it the<br></blockquote></blockquote>OST-7 Game:<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br><br>========================================<br>The OST-7 Game<br>========================================<br><br>The Goal:<br>Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7<br></blockquote></blockquote>or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth of<br>practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership?<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>The Rules:<br>If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with<br></blockquote></blockquote>"hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to<br>say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair<br>color, etc<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Tracking Progress:<br>Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, #<br></blockquote></blockquote>of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or<br>absolutely any other measures you like<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Play:<br>100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer<br></blockquote></blockquote>to just watch the game, that's OK too. <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>========================================<br><br><br><br>Notes:<br>For this game, "OST" means something like this:<br></blockquote></blockquote>http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've Facilitated at<br></blockquote></blockquote>least 7 of these events in your lifetime.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread stays<br></blockquote></blockquote>together, under the same subject<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Steps to Play:<br>Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]<br>Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to say<br><br>You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see...<br><br>Daniel<br><br>-- <br>Daniel Mezick, President<br><br>New Technology Solutions Inc.<br><br>(203) 915 7248 (cell)<br><br>Bio. Blog. Twitter. <br><br>Examine my new book: The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager.<br><br>Explore Agile Team Training and Coaching.<br><br>Explore the Agile Boston Community. <br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen<br>ts/20141214/300829f9/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 8<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 08:51:55 +0200<br>From: Tova Averbuch via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: Markus Wittwer <Markus.Wittwer@web.de>,<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>World wide Open Space<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Technology email list<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?<br>Message-ID: <1451FDD3-3807-4AE3-9C0B-C9258EC639C6@gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Unfortunately in the last 7 years I am not. <br>For seven years (1999-2006) I was both frequent lurker and contributor. And<br>then could not have the time and attention for many reasons. <br>I am in love and it debt to this beautiful community and list and am trying<br>to meet Face to face in WOS on OS events<br><br>Hope to lurk again spoon and meet old and new friends!:)<br>Much love<br>Tova Averbuch<br><br><br>???? ??-iPhone ???<br><br>?-Dec 14, 2014, ???? 2:19, Markus Wittwer via OSList<br><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> ???/?:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Lurk...<br><br>Am 11.12.2014 um 00:25 schrieb Daniel Mezick via OSList:<br><blockquote type="cite">Some of us were on a call on Tuesday, talking about Open Space....and<br>OSLIST....<br><br>...the participants at the time were....<br><br>Chuni Li<br>Daniel Mezick<br>Karen Davis<br>Linda Stevenson<br>Lucas Cioffi<br>Paul Levy<br>Peggy Holman<br>Skye Hirst<br>Suzanne Daigle<br>Tricia Chirumbole<br>Harold Shinsato<br><br>We discussed OSLIST culture, and how the culture of OSLIST may not<br>actually be very easy to figure out...<br><br>...we talked about how this list has hundreds upon hundreds of members,<br>with just 25 to 45 people (give or take) who post or reply with anything<br>close to a regular frequency, and how some speak with highly<br>authoritative voices.<br><br>...we talked a bit about how the culture of OSLIST /might actually be<br>kind of intimidating for new people/ to participate in.<br><br><br>The Game<br><br>We have no idea how many "regular lurkers" are in the group...we talked<br>about trying to find out.<br><br><br>So: if you are a "regular lurker", someone who examines these OSLIST<br>threads periodically but does not actively participate ... are you<br>willing to play a little game?<br><br><br>The Lurker Game: you are invited to play...<br><br>1. *...The goal* is to collectively get some idea of how many of us on<br>the list are "regular lurkers".<br><br>2. *...The rules* are:<br><br>* If you consider yourself a "regular lurker", consider opting in to<br> the game, by replying...<br>* If you reply, absolutely nothing further will be asked of you. All<br> you are doing is identifying yourself as someone who lurks. That's it.<br><br>3. ...We'll all track *the progress* by watching the thread, and seeing<br>how many reply over time.<br><br>4. ...Participation is *opt-in*.<br><br><br><br>To participate, just hit [Reply List] and enter "hey" and press [Enter]<br>...or...<br><br>... (optionally) just say whatever you might want to say, instead<br><br>We have no idea what might happen next; let's see what develops.<br><br>Thanks!<br>Daniel<br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen<br>ts/20141214/c352c2ba/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 9<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 12:39:27 +0200<br>From: Arno Baltin via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: Daniel Mezick <dan@newtechusa.net>, <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>World wide Open Space<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Technology email list<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>, OSLIST<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><OSLIST@listserv.boisestate.edu><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br>Message-ID:<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><CADT+i9fOBXxbCO5O2MkdxGNTE6N7_8aXrBaaEN819y+sbmX7rA@mail.gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Hi!<br><br>7+<br><br>I appreciate your effort Daniel!<br><br>Be well!<br><br>Arno<br><br><br><br><br>2014-12-13 18:34 GMT+02:00 Daniel Mezick via OSList <<br>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.<br><br>...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience<br>being reported!<br><br>So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ...<br>*explore....*<br><br>So: if you want, *you are cordially invited* to play ... let's call it<br>the OST-7 Game:<br><br><br>========================================<br>*The OST-7** Game*<br>========================================<br><br>*The Goal:*<br>Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7<br>or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth<br></blockquote>of<br><blockquote type="cite">practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership?<br><br>*The Rules:*<br>If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with<br>"hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to<br>say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair<br>color, etc<br><br>*Tracking Progress:*<br>Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # of<br>OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or<br>absolutely any other measures you like<br><br>*Play:*<br>100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer<br>to just watch the game, that's OK too.<br><br>========================================<br><br><br><br>Notes:<br><br> - For this game, "OST" means something like this:<br> http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm<br> - This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've<br> Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime.<br> - Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread<br> stays together, under the same subject<br><br><br>Steps to Play:<br><br> - Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]<br> - Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to<br> say<br><br><br>You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see...<br><br>Daniel<br><br>--<br><br>Daniel Mezick, President<br><br>New Technology Solutions Inc.<br><br>(203) 915 7248 (cell)<br><br>Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog<br><http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter<br><http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.<br><br>Examine my new book: The Culture Game<br><http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the Agile<br>Manager.<br><br>Explore Agile Team Training<br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.<br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/><br><br>Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/><br>Community.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br><br><br></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen<br>ts/20141214/15c232a6/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 10<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 10:46:58 +0000<br>From: paul levy via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: Daniel Mezick <dan@newtechusa.net>, <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>World wide Open Space<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Technology email list<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br>Message-ID:<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><CAAnJsbDWSae93m3bQL99m5fBvNP5ZF9okCsZ9Wv03e7rXa3XgA@mail.gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>I've facilictated around 50 gatherings using Open Space Technology.<br><br>And therein lies a possible interesting conundrum.<br><br>Because I have open space thousands of times. I have also never opened<br>space quite like the next time it is going to happen. So the number if many<br>and zero.<br><br>I've also opened space improvising around open space technology. And Open<br>Space Technology has changed around me. Self-organisation has tinkered with<br>the "recipe" - the one in the guide. But that gets talked about a lot less<br>on this list and, increasingly, a bunch of "open spacer" are sharing those<br>stories elsewhere.<br><br>There is no such thing as open space technology. There is no guide. There<br>is no "founder", there are no gatekeepers; yet there are all of these<br>things.<br><br>Tomorrow might just be my first ever Open Space.<br><br>warm wishes<br><br>Paul Levy<br><br>On 13 December 2014 at 16:34, Daniel Mezick via OSList <<br>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.<br><br>...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience<br>being reported!<br><br>So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ...<br>*explore....*<br><br>So: if you want, *you are cordially invited* to play ... let's call it<br>the OST-7 Game:<br><br><br>========================================<br>*The OST-7** Game*<br>========================================<br><br>*The Goal:*<br>Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7<br>or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth<br></blockquote>of<br><blockquote type="cite">practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership?<br><br>*The Rules:*<br>If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with<br>"hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to<br>say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair<br>color, etc<br><br>*Tracking Progress:*<br>Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # of<br>OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or<br>absolutely any other measures you like<br><br>*Play:*<br>100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer<br>to just watch the game, that's OK too.<br><br>========================================<br><br><br><br>Notes:<br><br> - For this game, "OST" means something like this:<br> http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm<br> - This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've<br> Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime.<br> - Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread<br> stays together, under the same subject<br><br><br>Steps to Play:<br><br> - Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]<br> - Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to<br> say<br><br><br>You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see...<br><br>Daniel<br><br>--<br><br>Daniel Mezick, President<br><br>New Technology Solutions Inc.<br><br>(203) 915 7248 (cell)<br><br>Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog<br><http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter<br><http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.<br><br>Examine my new book: The Culture Game<br><http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the Agile<br>Manager.<br><br>Explore Agile Team Training<br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.<br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/><br><br>Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/><br>Community.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br><br><br></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen<br>ts/20141214/e1490be0/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 11<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 12:40:10 +0100<br>From: Koos de Heer via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: Daniel Mezick <dan@newtechusa.net>, <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>World wide Open Space<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Technology<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>email list<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br>Message-ID: <x8lln2pywl5rfbssgq9cmkbx.1418557210720@email.android.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>I have done so many that I have lost count. I always dream of going back in<br>all my calendars and do a count. So far, haven't gotten around to it.<br><br>Happy lurking!<br><br>Met vriendelijke groet,<br><br>Koos de Heer<br><br>Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>schreef:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.<br><br>...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience <br>being reported!<br><br>So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ...<br></blockquote>/explore..../<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>So: if you want, /you are cordially invited/ to play ... let's call it <br>the OST-7 Game:<br><br><br>========================================<br>*The OST-7**Game*<br>========================================<br><br>*The Goal:*<br>Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated <br>7 or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the <br>depth of practical OST facilitation experience across the entire<br></blockquote>membership?<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>*The Rules:*<br>If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with <br>"hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to <br>say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your <br>hair color, etc<br><br>*Tracking Progress:*<br>Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # <br>of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or <br>absolutely any other measures you like<br>*<br>**Play:*<br>100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and <br>prefer to just watch the game, that's OK too.<br><br>========================================<br><br><br><br>Notes:<br><br>* For this game, "OST" means something like this:<br> http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm<br>* This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've<br> Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime.<br>* Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread<br> stays together, under the same subject<br><br><br>Steps to Play:<br><br>* Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]<br>* Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to say<br><br><br>You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see...<br><br>Daniel<br><br>-- <br><br>Daniel Mezick, President<br><br>New Technology Solutions Inc.<br><br>(203) 915 7248 (cell)<br><br>Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog <br><http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter<br></blockquote><http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>Examine my new book:The Culture Game <br><http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the <br>Agile Manager.<br><br>Explore Agile Team Training <br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. <br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/><br><br>Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>Community.<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen<br>ts/20141214/3230492c/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 12<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 12:56:33 +0100<br>From: Thomas Herrmann via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: Arno Baltin <arno@tlu.ee>, World wide Open Space Technology email<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>list<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br>Message-ID:<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><C7D45120-CD7C-430A-BBF3-7E49653D8D86@openspaceconsulting.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Yes<br>Lost count but several hundred these 15yrs. Also trained approx 300 people<br>and I hear often about their opening space all over. A true joy that gives<br>me faith for the future. <br>Thomas Herrmann in Sweden<br><br>Skickat fr?n min iPhone<br><br><blockquote type="cite">14 dec 2014 kl. 11:39 skrev Arno Baltin via OSList<br></blockquote><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>Hi!<br><br>7+<br><br>I appreciate your effort Daniel!<br><br>Be well!<br><br>Arno<br><br><br><br><br>2014-12-13 18:34 GMT+02:00 Daniel Mezick via OSList<br></blockquote><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.<br><br>...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience<br></blockquote></blockquote>being reported! <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ...<br></blockquote></blockquote>explore....<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>So: if you want, you are cordially invited to play ... let's call it the<br></blockquote></blockquote>OST-7 Game:<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br><br>========================================<br>The OST-7 Game<br>========================================<br><br>The Goal:<br>Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7<br></blockquote></blockquote>or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth of<br>practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership?<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>The Rules:<br>If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with<br></blockquote></blockquote>"hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to<br>say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your<br>hair color, etc<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Tracking Progress:<br>Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, #<br></blockquote></blockquote>of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or<br>absolutely any other measures you like<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Play:<br>100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer<br></blockquote></blockquote>to just watch the game, that's OK too. <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>========================================<br><br><br><br>Notes:<br>For this game, "OST" means something like this:<br></blockquote></blockquote>http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've Facilitated at<br></blockquote></blockquote>least 7 of these events in your lifetime.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread stays<br></blockquote></blockquote>together, under the same subject<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Steps to Play:<br>Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]<br>Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to say<br><br>You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see...<br><br>Daniel<br><br>-- <br>Daniel Mezick, President<br><br>New Technology Solutions Inc.<br><br>(203) 915 7248 (cell)<br><br>Bio. Blog. Twitter. <br><br>Examine my new book: The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager.<br><br>Explore Agile Team Training and Coaching.<br><br>Explore the Agile Boston Community. <br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen<br>ts/20141214/108634a1/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 13<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 15:47:08 +0100<br>From: Eva P Svensson via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: Gray <graydancer@gmail.com>, World wide Open Space Technology<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>email list<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br>Message-ID: <10DA2584-609C-4797-8633-3A2042C47525@epshumaninvest.se><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>I have also stopped counting :-)<br>But love doing it whenever it?s possible.<br>:o)<br>Eva<br>Sweden<br><br>B?sta h?lsningar<br><br>Eva P Svensson<br><br>EPS Human Invest AB<br>Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc<br>Medlem i Beyond Performance Group<br><br>"Verksamhetsutveckling genom m?nniskor skapar l?ngsiktigt v?lm?ende f?retag<br>och organisationer"<br><br>An?sbergsv?gen 22, 439 34 ONSALA<br>Bes?ksadress; Norra All?gatan 8, G?teborg<br>Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50<br>www.epshumaninvest.se <http://www.epshumaninvest.se/><br>Skype: eva.p.svensson<br>Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB<br>twitter:@EvaPSvensson<br><br>"Jag kan inte l?ra dig n?got. Allt jag kan g?ra ?r att st?lla fr?gor till<br>dig, och l?ta dig sj?lv finna svaren." Sokrates<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><blockquote type="cite">13 dec 2014 kl. 18:05 skrev Gray via OSList<br></blockquote><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>Um...I've facilitated, at this point, a little over 60. Smallest was 8<br></blockquote>people on Maui. Largest was about 375, in Chicago. Been doing it since 2007.<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>And I say "um..." Because I am still learning, still figuring it out, and<br></blockquote>still hear Lisa Heft in my head saying "be more invisible, Gray..."<br><blockquote type="cite"><br><br><br>?<br>Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox><br><br>On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList<br></blockquote><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>><br>wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.<br><br>...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience<br></blockquote>being reported! <br><blockquote type="cite"><br>So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ... explore....<br><br>So: if you want, you are cordially invited to play ... let's call it the<br></blockquote>OST-7 Game:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br><br>========================================<br>The OST-7 Game<br>========================================<br><br>The Goal:<br>Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7<br></blockquote>or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth of<br>practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership?<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>The Rules:<br>If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with<br></blockquote>"hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to<br>say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair<br>color, etc<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>Tracking Progress:<br>Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # of<br></blockquote>OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or<br>absolutely any other measures you like<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>Play:<br>100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer<br></blockquote>to just watch the game, that's OK too. <br><blockquote type="cite"><br>========================================<br><br><br><br>Notes:<br><br>For this game, "OST" means something like this:<br></blockquote>http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm<br><http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm><br><blockquote type="cite">This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've Facilitated at<br></blockquote>least 7 of these events in your lifetime.<br><blockquote type="cite">Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread stays<br></blockquote>together, under the same subject<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>Steps to Play:<br>Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]<br>Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to say<br><br>You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see...<br><br>Daniel<br><br>-- <br>Daniel Mezick, President<br><br>New Technology Solutions Inc.<br><br>(203) 915 7248 (cell)<br><br>Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog<br></blockquote><http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Examine my new book: The Culture Game?<br></blockquote><http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the Agile<br>Manager.<br><blockquote type="cite">Explore Agile Team Training<br></blockquote><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.<br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/><br><blockquote type="cite">Explore the Agile Boston?<br></blockquote><http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>Community. <br><blockquote type="cite"><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br></blockquote><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen<br>ts/20141214/c1e8b8c2/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 14<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 10:26:16 -0600<br>From: Michael Herman via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: Eva P Svensson <eva@epshumaninvest.se>, <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>World wide Open Space<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Technology email list<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br>Message-ID:<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><CAD8j=QFstho2LWdB2LbGa=SR6+uz2NUoGTDyYUEP3kShHxW1aw@mail.gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>i woke up this morning thinking about this game, thinking in a direction<br>similar to paul levy.<br><br>i am the nominal leader of a community garden now for four years. my<br>management is deeply informed by my learning in and about open space. does<br>it count as 1 or 4?<br><br>i once had a client who flew me in to facilitate a meeting. we also built<br>a weblog and they contacted me a number of times, over several years, with<br>minor technical questions. do the meeting and the blog count as one<br>together, or two separate?<br><br>i taught my grandma to say "ah," as she began the active process of dying.<br>she then repeated that seed syllable, a one-syllable mantra for peace, on<br>every breath of her last week of life. she never opened her eyes but over<br>that week completely relaxed her whole body. was that open space? what<br>about up all night rocking a tiny, sick, neice?<br><br>i saw some new neighbors moving in the other day. our neighborhood has a<br>lot of old houses and everybody moves in and starts updating everything. i<br>offered my tools and experience. if they never take me up on that<br>offer/invitation, does it count? what if they just look for me at my desk<br>in our front window, and wave when they see me, while out walking their<br>dog? that could happen a lot. must count as only once? or maybe it<br>doesn't count at all?<br><br>what about three opening briefings, on three consecutive days of open space<br>trainings i've done? and what about all the things that happen after an<br>event, does the original opener get partial credit for things his/her<br>participants open later on?<br><br>to paul's point, i can ask questions like this about almost every situation<br>where i facilitated a meeting in an open space way, and about many other<br>situations where i was not "facilitating" anything, apparently. this is<br>one of the ways i understand that we live in open space.<br><br>my approach to training folks in and about open space is significantly<br>focused on the crafting of invitations, in the belief that if we make<br>enough invitations, over time, people, groups and good work are going to<br>show up.<br><br>i also focus on discovering all the different ways that whomever i'm<br>"training" has already been opening space in their own lives. i don't<br>think anyone could come to this work without having already done it before.<br>it would be completely un-understandable to them without prior experience.<br>i think people ask for training so they can do what they already know/do<br>better. so i try to build on and from whatever understanding they bring.<br><br>so this question of seven or more is not so easy for me. not sure it's<br>even helpful. i'm more interested in questions like:<br><br>1. when did you first hear about os or ost?<br>2. what was the hook? how did you notice it might have value?<br>3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it inform how you live?<br>4. what has happened since then? what difference does it seem to make?<br><br>and so on. a new game? the next round? maybe. or maybe it's just the<br>game Murli called OSLIST back in 1996?<br><br>michael<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>--<br><br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates<br>312-280-7838 (mobile)<br><br>http://MichaelHerman.com<br>http://OpenSpaceWorld.org<br><br><br>On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Eva P Svensson via OSList <<br>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>I have also stopped counting :-)<br>But love doing it whenever it?s possible.<br>:o)<br>Eva<br>Sweden<br><br>B?sta h?lsningar<br><br><br>Eva P Svensson<br><br><br>*EPS Human Invest AB*<br>*Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc*<br>*Medlem i Beyond Performance Group*<br><br><br>*"Verksamhetsutveckling genom m?nniskor skapar l?ngsiktigt v?lm?ende<br>f?retag och organisationer"*<br><br><br>An?sbergsv?gen 22, 439 34 ONSALA<br>Bes?ksadress; Norra All?gatan 8, G?teborg<br>Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50<br>www.epshumaninvest.se<br>Skype: eva.p.svensson<br>Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB<br>twitter:@EvaPSvensson<br><br>*"Jag kan inte l?ra dig n?got. Allt jag kan g?ra ?r att st?lla fr?gor till<br>dig, och l?ta dig sj?lv finna svaren." Sokrates*<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>13 dec 2014 kl. 18:05 skrev Gray via OSList <<br>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:<br><br>Um...I've facilitated, at this point, a little over 60. Smallest was 8<br>people on Maui. Largest was about 375, in Chicago. Been doing it since<br></blockquote>2007.<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>And I say "um..." Because I am still learning, still figuring it out, and<br>still hear Lisa Heft in my head saying "be more invisible, Gray..."<br><br><br><br>?<br>Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox><br><br><br>On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <<br>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.<br><br>...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience<br>being reported!<br><br>So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ...<br>*explore....*<br><br>So: if you want, *you are cordially invited* to play ... let's call it<br>the OST-7 Game:<br><br><br>========================================<br>*The OST-7** Game*<br>========================================<br><br>*The Goal:*<br>Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7<br>or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth<br></blockquote></blockquote>of<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership?<br><br>*The Rules:*<br>If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with<br>"hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to<br>say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair<br>color, etc<br><br>*Tracking Progress:*<br>Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, #<br>of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or<br>absolutely any other measures you like<br><br>*Play:*<br>100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer<br>to just watch the game, that's OK too.<br><br>========================================<br><br><br><br>Notes:<br><br> - For this game, "OST" means something like this:<br> http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm<br> - This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've<br> Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime.<br> - Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread<br> stays together, under the same subject<br><br><br>Steps to Play:<br><br> - Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]<br> - Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to<br> say<br><br><br>You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see...<br><br>Daniel<br><br>--<br><br>Daniel Mezick, President<br><br>New Technology Solutions Inc.<br><br>(203) 915 7248 (cell)<br>Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog<br><http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter<br><http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.<br>Examine my new book: The Culture Game<br><http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the<br>Agile Manager.<br><br>Explore Agile Team Training<br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.<br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/><br><br>Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/><br>Community.<br><br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br><br><br></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen<br>ts/20141214/73a107de/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 15<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 12:37:22 -0500<br>From: via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: Michael Herman <michael@michaelherman.com>,<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>World wide Open Space<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Technology email list<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br>Message-ID: <A171AD3E-F755-417B-9DE2-9394A0E2D3A1@gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Hi Michael,<br>I enjoyed reading your responses/reflections.<br>You made me think more<br>About the subtleties of working w/others, training, facilitating, & being<br>humanly present.<br>The 7 or more inquiry helped me to process a good number of OS that I have<br>fostered. <br>I am grateful to be conscious now of what had been unconscious.<br>In the stream of things, will this matter or change anything?<br>Probably not.<br>Currently, I have Cancer, receive chemo, & appreciate all recall.<br>Peace & diversity of opinions,<br>Scott<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br><blockquote type="cite">On Dec 14, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Michael Herman via OSList<br></blockquote><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>i woke up this morning thinking about this game, thinking in a direction<br></blockquote>similar to paul levy.<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>i am the nominal leader of a community garden now for four years. my<br></blockquote>management is deeply informed by my learning in and about open space. does<br>it count as 1 or 4? <br><blockquote type="cite"><br>i once had a client who flew me in to facilitate a meeting. we also built<br></blockquote>a weblog and they contacted me a number of times, over several years, with<br>minor technical questions. do the meeting and the blog count as one<br>together, or two separate?<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>i taught my grandma to say "ah," as she began the active process of dying.<br></blockquote>she then repeated that seed syllable, a one-syllable mantra for peace, on<br>every breath of her last week of life. she never opened her eyes but over<br>that week completely relaxed her whole body. was that open space? what<br>about up all night rocking a tiny, sick, neice?<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>i saw some new neighbors moving in the other day. our neighborhood has a<br></blockquote>lot of old houses and everybody moves in and starts updating everything. i<br>offered my tools and experience. if they never take me up on that<br>offer/invitation, does it count? what if they just look for me at my desk<br>in our front window, and wave when they see me, while out walking their dog?<br>that could happen a lot. must count as only once? or maybe it doesn't<br>count at all? <br><blockquote type="cite"><br>what about three opening briefings, on three consecutive days of open<br></blockquote>space trainings i've done? and what about all the things that happen after<br>an event, does the original opener get partial credit for things his/her<br>participants open later on? <br><blockquote type="cite"><br>to paul's point, i can ask questions like this about almost every<br></blockquote>situation where i facilitated a meeting in an open space way, and about many<br>other situations where i was not "facilitating" anything, apparently. this<br>is one of the ways i understand that we live in open space. <br><blockquote type="cite"><br>my approach to training folks in and about open space is significantly<br></blockquote>focused on the crafting of invitations, in the belief that if we make enough<br>invitations, over time, people, groups and good work are going to show up. <br><blockquote type="cite"><br>i also focus on discovering all the different ways that whomever i'm<br></blockquote>"training" has already been opening space in their own lives. i don't think<br>anyone could come to this work without having already done it before. it<br>would be completely un-understandable to them without prior experience. i<br>think people ask for training so they can do what they already know/do<br>better. so i try to build on and from whatever understanding they bring.<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>so this question of seven or more is not so easy for me. not sure it's<br></blockquote>even helpful. i'm more interested in questions like:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>1. when did you first hear about os or ost?<br>2. what was the hook? how did you notice it might have value?<br>3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it inform how you live?<br>4. what has happened since then? what difference does it seem to make?<br><br>and so on. a new game? the next round? maybe. or maybe it's just the<br></blockquote>game Murli called OSLIST back in 1996? <br><blockquote type="cite"><br>michael<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>--<br><br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates<br>312-280-7838 (mobile)<br><br>http://MichaelHerman.com<br>http://OpenSpaceWorld.org<br><br><br><blockquote type="cite">On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Eva P Svensson via OSList<br></blockquote></blockquote><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I have also stopped counting :-)<br>But love doing it whenever it?s possible.<br>:o)<br>Eva<br>Sweden<br><br>B?sta h?lsningar<br><br>Eva P Svensson<br><br>EPS Human Invest AB<br>Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc<br>Medlem i Beyond Performance Group<br><br>"Verksamhetsutveckling genom m?nniskor skapar l?ngsiktigt v?lm?ende<br></blockquote></blockquote>f?retag och organisationer"<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>An?sbergsv?gen 22, 439 34 ONSALA<br>Bes?ksadress; Norra All?gatan 8, G?teborg<br>Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50<br>www.epshumaninvest.se<br>Skype: eva.p.svensson<br>Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB<br>twitter:@EvaPSvensson<br><br>"Jag kan inte l?ra dig n?got. Allt jag kan g?ra ?r att st?lla fr?gor till<br></blockquote></blockquote>dig, och l?ta dig sj?lv finna svaren." Sokrates<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><blockquote type="cite">13 dec 2014 kl. 18:05 skrev Gray via OSList<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Um...I've facilitated, at this point, a little over 60. Smallest was 8<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>people on Maui. Largest was about 375, in Chicago. Been doing it since 2007.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>And I say "um..." Because I am still learning, still figuring it out,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>and still hear Lisa Heft in my head saying "be more invisible, Gray..."<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br><br><br>?<br>Sent from Mailbox<br><br><br><blockquote type="cite">On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.<br><br>...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>being reported! <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ...<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>explore....<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>So: if you want, you are cordially invited to play ... let's call it<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>the OST-7 Game:<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br><br>========================================<br>The OST-7 Game<br>========================================<br><br>The Goal:<br>Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>7 or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth<br>of practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership?<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>The Rules:<br>If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>"hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to<br>say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair<br>color, etc<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Tracking Progress:<br>Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, #<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or<br>absolutely any other measures you like<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Play:<br>100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>prefer to just watch the game, that's OK too. <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>========================================<br><br><br><br>Notes:<br><br>For this game, "OST" means something like this:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've Facilitated<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>at least 7 of these events in your lifetime.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>stays together, under the same subject<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Steps to Play:<br>Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]<br>Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to say<br><br>You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see...<br><br>Daniel<br><br>-- <br>Daniel Mezick, President<br><br>New Technology Solutions Inc.<br><br>(203) 915 7248 (cell)<br><br>Bio. Blog. Twitter. <br>Examine my new book: The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager.<br>Explore Agile Team Training and Coaching.<br><br>Explore the Agile Boston Community. <br><br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br></blockquote><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen<br>ts/20141214/62e80906/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 16<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 18:50:43 -0000<br>From: Francois Knuchel via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?<br>Message-ID: <005301d017ce$dd721f10$98565d30$@open2flow.co.uk><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>Hi Dan<br><br><br><br>BUTTERFLY! (and usually with a delay of a week or two).<br><br><br><br>I don?t consider myself a lurker ? I don?t hide behind somewhere, ready to<br>pounce, I have no evil intentions. But maybe that?s a cultural thing. :) <br><br><br><br>I think butterfly is a more elegant expression, even in the online world.<br><br><br><br>Francois<br><br>London<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of<br>Daniel Mezick via OSList<br>Sent: 10 December 2014 23:25<br>To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org<br>Subject: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?<br><br><br><br>Some of us were on a call on Tuesday, talking about Open Space....and<br>OSLIST....<br><br>...the participants at the time were....<br><br>Chuni Li<br>Daniel Mezick<br>Karen Davis<br>Linda Stevenson<br>Lucas Cioffi<br>Paul Levy<br>Peggy Holman<br>Skye Hirst<br>Suzanne Daigle<br>Tricia Chirumbole<br>Harold Shinsato<br><br>We discussed OSLIST culture, and how the culture of OSLIST may not actually<br>be very easy to figure out...<br><br>...we talked about how this list has hundreds upon hundreds of members, with<br>just 25 to 45 people (give or take) who post or reply with anything close to<br>a regular frequency, and how some speak with highly authoritative voices.<br><br>...we talked a bit about how the culture of OSLIST might actually be kind of<br>intimidating for new people to participate in.<br><br><br>The Game<br><br>We have no idea how many "regular lurkers" are in the group...we talked<br>about trying to find out.<br><br><br>So: if you are a "regular lurker", someone who examines these OSLIST threads<br>periodically but does not actively participate ... are you willing to play<br>a little game? <br><br><br>The Lurker Game: you are invited to play...<br><br>1. ...The goal is to collectively get some idea of how many of us on the<br>list are "regular lurkers".<br><br>2. ...The rules are: <br><br>*<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>If you consider yourself a "regular lurker", consider opting in to<br>the game, by replying...<br>*<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>If you reply, absolutely nothing further will be asked of you. All<br>you are doing is identifying yourself as someone who lurks. That's it. <br><br>3. ...We'll all track the progress by watching the thread, and seeing how<br>many reply over time. <br><br>4. ...Participation is opt-in. <br><br><br><br>To participate, just hit [Reply List] and enter "hey" and press [Enter]<br>...or...<br><br>... (optionally) just say whatever you might want to say, instead<br><br>We have no idea what might happen next; let's see what develops. <br><br>Thanks!<br>Daniel<br><br>-- <br><br><br><br>Daniel Mezick, President<br><br>New Technology Solutions Inc.<br><br>(203) 915 7248 (cell)<br><br>Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/> . <http://newtechusa.net/blog/><br>Blog. <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/> Twitter.? <br><br>Examine my new book:? <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/><br>The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager.<br><br>Explore Agile Team <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/><br>Training and <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/><br>Coaching.<br><br>Explore the <http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/> Agile Boston<br>Community.? <br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen<br>ts/20141214/bfb52e26/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 17<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:55:41 -0500<br>From: Annamarie Pluhar via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: "Michael Herman" <michael@michaelherman.com>,<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>"World wide Open<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Space Technology email list"<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: [OSList] Community Gardens<br>Message-ID:<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><6649B461-B11C-4C0B-A039-949D56CB3E0A@pluharconsulting.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br><br>Hi! (I started to write just to Michael - but realized that others <br>might find the question and answer of interest.)<br><br>How does the nominal leader run the community garden in OS? Most <br>particularly how does the work that needs to be done to manage the <br>garden as a whole get done?<br><br>I ask as secretary of a Governing Committee that came into existence <br>when the original founders alienated too many people (by being arrogant <br>and punitive and authoritarian) and it was decided we needed to have <br>some structure and governance.<br><br>'Nuff said, interested in the answer!<br><br>Peace,<br>Annamarie<br><br>Annamarie Pluhar<br><br>Pluhar Consulting<br>http://www.pluharconsulting.com<br>802.451.1941<br>802.579.5975 (cell)<br><br>On 14 Dec 2014, at 11:26, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">i woke up this morning thinking about this game, thinking in a <br>direction<br>similar to paul levy.<br><br>i am the nominal leader of a community garden now for four years. my<br>management is deeply informed by my learning in and about open space. <br>does<br>it count as 1 or 4?<br><br>i once had a client who flew me in to facilitate a meeting. we also <br>built<br>a weblog and they contacted me a number of times, over several years, <br>with<br>minor technical questions. do the meeting and the blog count as one<br>together, or two separate?<br><br>i taught my grandma to say "ah," as she began the active process of <br>dying.<br>she then repeated that seed syllable, a one-syllable mantra for peace, <br>on<br>every breath of her last week of life. she never opened her eyes but <br>over<br>that week completely relaxed her whole body. was that open space? <br>what<br>about up all night rocking a tiny, sick, neice?<br><br>i saw some new neighbors moving in the other day. our neighborhood <br>has a<br>lot of old houses and everybody moves in and starts updating <br>everything. i<br>offered my tools and experience. if they never take me up on that<br>offer/invitation, does it count? what if they just look for me at my <br>desk<br>in our front window, and wave when they see me, while out walking <br>their<br>dog? that could happen a lot. must count as only once? or maybe it<br>doesn't count at all?<br><br>what about three opening briefings, on three consecutive days of open <br>space<br>trainings i've done? and what about all the things that happen after <br>an<br>event, does the original opener get partial credit for things his/her<br>participants open later on?<br><br>to paul's point, i can ask questions like this about almost every <br>situation<br>where i facilitated a meeting in an open space way, and about many <br>other<br>situations where i was not "facilitating" anything, apparently. this <br>is<br>one of the ways i understand that we live in open space.<br><br>my approach to training folks in and about open space is significantly<br>focused on the crafting of invitations, in the belief that if we make<br>enough invitations, over time, people, groups and good work are going <br>to<br>show up.<br><br>i also focus on discovering all the different ways that whomever i'm<br>"training" has already been opening space in their own lives. i don't<br>think anyone could come to this work without having already done it <br>before.<br>it would be completely un-understandable to them without prior <br>experience.<br>i think people ask for training so they can do what they already <br>know/do<br>better. so i try to build on and from whatever understanding they <br>bring.<br><br>so this question of seven or more is not so easy for me. not sure <br>it's<br>even helpful. i'm more interested in questions like:<br><br>1. when did you first hear about os or ost?<br>2. what was the hook? how did you notice it might have value?<br>3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it inform how you <br>live?<br>4. what has happened since then? what difference does it seem to <br>make?<br><br>and so on. a new game? the next round? maybe. or maybe it's just <br>the<br>game Murli called OSLIST back in 1996?<br><br>michael<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>--<br><br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates<br>312-280-7838 (mobile)<br><br>http://MichaelHerman.com<br>http://OpenSpaceWorld.org<br><br><br>On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Eva P Svensson via OSList <<br>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>I have also stopped counting :-)<br>But love doing it whenever it?s possible.<br>:o)<br>Eva<br>Sweden<br><br>B?sta h?lsningar<br><br><br>Eva P Svensson<br><br><br>*EPS Human Invest AB*<br>*Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc*<br>*Medlem i Beyond Performance Group*<br><br><br>*"Verksamhetsutveckling genom m?nniskor skapar l?ngsiktigt <br>v?lm?ende<br>f?retag och organisationer"*<br><br><br>An?sbergsv?gen 22, 439 34 ONSALA<br>Bes?ksadress; Norra All?gatan 8, G?teborg<br>Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50<br>www.epshumaninvest.se<br>Skype: eva.p.svensson<br>Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB<br>twitter:@EvaPSvensson<br><br>*"Jag kan inte l?ra dig n?got. Allt jag kan g?ra ?r att st?lla <br>fr?gor till<br>dig, och l?ta dig sj?lv finna svaren." Sokrates*<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>13 dec 2014 kl. 18:05 skrev Gray via OSList <<br>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:<br><br>Um...I've facilitated, at this point, a little over 60. Smallest was <br>8<br>people on Maui. Largest was about 375, in Chicago. Been doing it <br>since 2007.<br><br>And I say "um..." Because I am still learning, still figuring it out, <br>and<br>still hear Lisa Heft in my head saying "be more invisible, Gray..."<br><br><br><br>?<br>Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox><br><br><br>On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <<br>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.<br><br>...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of <br>experience<br>being reported!<br><br>So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ...<br>*explore....*<br><br>So: if you want, *you are cordially invited* to play ... let's call <br>it<br>the OST-7 Game:<br><br><br>========================================<br>*The OST-7** Game*<br>========================================<br><br>*The Goal:*<br>Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually <br>Facilitated 7<br>or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the <br>depth of<br>practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership?<br><br>*The Rules:*<br>If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying <br>with<br>"hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might <br>like to<br>say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your <br>hair<br>color, etc<br><br>*Tracking Progress:*<br>Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of <br>countries, #<br>of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, <br>or<br>absolutely any other measures you like<br><br>*Play:*<br>100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and <br>prefer<br>to just watch the game, that's OK too.<br><br>========================================<br><br><br><br>Notes:<br><br>- For this game, "OST" means something like this:<br>http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm<br>- This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've<br>Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime.<br>- Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the <br>thread<br>stays together, under the same subject<br><br><br>Steps to Play:<br><br>- Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]<br>- Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like <br>to<br>say<br><br><br>You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see...<br><br>Daniel<br><br>--<br><br>Daniel Mezick, President<br><br>New Technology Solutions Inc.<br><br>(203) 915 7248 (cell)<br>Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog<br><http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter<br><http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.<br>Examine my new book: The Culture Game<br><http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the<br>Agile Manager.<br><br>Explore Agile Team Training<br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.<br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/><br><br>Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/><br>Community.<br><br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br><br><br></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen<br>ts/20141214/bb6ad83f/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 18<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:59:12 -0800<br>From: Peggy Holman via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: Open Listserv <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] How do we define LURKER?<br>Message-ID: <EC359507-C1E9-430C-9B15-A3AC6ED5266A@peggyholman.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>I have played with the term "active readers" rather than lurkers. Has a<br>different tone.<br><br><br>The compulsive historian in me wants to mention that in November, 2009, a<br>message called Roll Call: Present was sent by Erik Fabian (who contributed<br>about 15 messages from June to November of that year.) He asked people just<br>to respond with a ?present?. While he used the term lurkers, he included in<br>a larger framing (below).<br><br>By his count, it brought 100+ responses, similar in tone to those responding<br>now. Ironically, Erik?s reflections on the roll call (also below) was his<br>last message to the list.<br><br><br>appreciatively,<br>Peggy<br><br><br>ROLL CALL: PRESENT<br><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 24, 2009, at 1:13 AM, Erik Fabian <erik@DOUBLEHAPPINESSNYC.COM><br></blockquote>wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>I was intrigued by Phelim's observation that the OSLIST, not being a<br></blockquote>physical space, lacks the <br><blockquote type="cite">information that comes from people sitting silent or choosing to leave.<br><br>I invite the many folks, the lurkers, the newbies, the old hands, the<br></blockquote>folks with better things to do, <br><blockquote type="cite">anyone really...to respond to this message with a "present" if you would<br></blockquote>like to be noted as attending <br><blockquote type="cite">to this virtual space.<br><br>I know it won't solve the exiting problem but it might perhaps give a<br></blockquote>sense of scale to the ratio of <br><blockquote type="cite">talkers to the silent.<br><br>Erik - present<br><br>*<br><br></blockquote><br><br>REFLECTING ON THE ROLL CALL<br><br><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 29, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Erik Fabian <erik@DOUBLEHAPPINESSNYC.COM><br></blockquote>wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>Hi all,<br><br>1st thing: I don't mean to stop the Roll Call if folks would still like to<br></blockquote>chime in. Feel welcome.<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>2nd: I was quite struck by the 100+ voices that have called present so far<br></blockquote>in the Roll Call. Your <br><blockquote type="cite">responses reoriented my sense of scale on this list and created a<br></blockquote>fascinating moment where I <br><blockquote type="cite">didn't know what was going to happen next...I felt like I watching a<br></blockquote>filibuster or something. <br><blockquote type="cite"><br>I was also struck by the sense of willingness to continue to be present in<br></blockquote>this OSLIST conversation <br><blockquote type="cite">despite disagreements, other options, shyness, busy lives, etc. That felt<br></blockquote>like some kind of bedrock <br><blockquote type="cite">to me.<br><br>The momentum has slowed and the thread has mixed back into the stream of<br></blockquote>multiple <br><blockquote type="cite">conversations on the list. I have also started to hear some reflection<br></blockquote>from Michael (here: <br><blockquote type="cite">http://tinyurl.com/ygupaax) & Harold (here: http://tinyurl.com/ykx3scs)<br></blockquote>and so it seems <br><blockquote type="cite">appropriate to put out a broader invitation to reflect on the Roll Call.<br><br>I suppose I should say, I viewed the Roll Call responses in the context of<br></blockquote>a couple weeks of debate <br><blockquote type="cite">about OS, where the online OS community should find its home, differing<br></blockquote>values around online <br><blockquote type="cite">communication styles, and thoughts about OS and change.<br><br>Peggy asked an interesting question recently: How do the Open Space<br></blockquote>principles help us both <br><blockquote type="cite">support and resist change and what does that mean for the evolution of OST<br></blockquote>and opening space? <br><blockquote type="cite">(http://tinyurl.com/yzg8nh9)<br><br>So I invite anyone, anyone who was present or silently sat aside, who<br></blockquote>would like to reflect on the <br><blockquote type="cite">Roll Call to feel welcome to do so, and to perhaps consider the Roll Call<br></blockquote>in the light of recent <br><blockquote type="cite">debates on this list or Peggy's question about change and the future of<br></blockquote>OS.<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>Cheers,<br>Erik<br><br>*<br></blockquote>*<br><br><br><br><br>_________________________________<br>Peggy Holman<br>Executive Director<br>Journalism that Matters<br>15347 SE 49th Place<br>Bellevue, WA 98006<br>425-746-6274<br>www.journalismthatmatters.net<br>www.peggyholman.com<br>Twitter: @peggyholman<br>JTM Twitter: @JTMStream<br><br>Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning?Upheaval into<br>Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com/><br>Check out my series on what's?emerging in the news &?information ecosystem<br><http://www.journalismthatmatters.net/the_emerging_news_and_information_eco_<br>system><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><blockquote type="cite">On Dec 11, 2014, at 10:23 AM, openspacedk1 via OSList<br></blockquote><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>Hello all,<br><br>Given we are a community working with open space,<br><br>therefore able or learning to be absolutely present<br>and absolutely invisible<br><br>isn't what we see the only thing that could happen ?<br><br><br>Greetings Gerard, Denmark<br><br><br><br>ichael Herman via OSList skrev den 2014-12-11 17:08:<br><blockquote type="cite">Perhaps a bit of conflict in the definition, as it seems to say that<br>listening isn't active participation.<br>My working definition for leadership, in any field, is practice made<br>visible. Maybe visible is useful in place of active.<br>Yes, this suggests a distinction between lurkers and leaders, but it<br>also allows for the definition of leader and our leadership ranks here<br>to expand.<br>I have been very visible here in the past but less so in recent years.<br>Reading most everything, but not so visible.<br>I think every single posting leads some us somewhere, even if those<br>places aren't so obvious.<br>Enjoying seeing so many familiar names mixed in with new ones.<br>Michael<br>On Thursday, December 11, 2014, Daniel Mezick via OSList<br><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">In the game, as described, the definition of [lurker] is clear:<br>"...someone who examines these OSLIST threads periodically but does<br>not actively participate."<br>The definition is purposefully loose, so anyone can self-identify<br>with it, and optionally play the game.<br>Daniel<br>On 12/11/14 9:32 AM, Carmela Ariza via OSList wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Dear all,<br>It is very interesting - that asking who are lurkers - encouraged<br>the lurkers to come out and write a few sentences...<br>I am curious - how do we really define LURKERS?<br>Would love to listen to your thoughts on this....<br>Carms<br>True happiness is a state of mind.<br>Happiness is not a consequence of things that happen.<br>Do not pursue happiness - practice it.<br>Sing, even if you do not sound good.<br>Smile, even when things go wrong.<br>Create happiness, and happy you will be.<br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to<br>OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br></blockquote>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br><blockquote type="cite">[1]<br></blockquote>--<br>Daniel Mezick, President<br>New Technology Solutions Inc.<br>(203) 915 7248 (cell)<br>Bio [2]. Blog [3]. Twitter [4].<br>Examine my new book: The Culture Game [5]: Tools for the Agile<br>Manager.<br>Explore Agile Team Training [6] and Coaching. [7]<br>Explore the Agile Boston [8]Community.<br></blockquote>--<br>--<br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates<br>312-280-7838 (mobile)<br>http://MichaelHerman.com [9]<br>http://OpenSpaceWorld.org [10]<br>Links:<br>------<br>[1] http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br>[2] http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/<br>[3] http://newtechusa.net/blog/<br>[4] http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/<br>[5] http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/<br>[6] http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/<br>[7] http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/<br>[8] http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/<br>[9] http://MichaelHerman.com<br>[10] http://OpenSpaceWorld.org<br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br></blockquote><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen<br>ts/20141214/b3741cb0/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 19<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 14:04:52 -0600<br>From: Michael Herman via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: Annamarie Pluhar <annamarie@pluharconsulting.com>,<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>OSLIST<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><OSList@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Community Gardens<br>Message-ID:<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><CAD8j=QHG+Yxm2M=xADZoeuMiJVXZToexZoBboBbRpzva0_nmKw@mail.gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>hi annamarie,<br><br>in our space, we have 18 plots in one large raised bed. plots are assigned<br>on first-come basis.<br><br>the previous garden leader and the guy who cut the grass in the park took 6<br>of the 18 plots for themselves, what seemed like the sunniest and best<br>plots. the first thing i did was take no plot. one other garden leader<br>takes one plot. everybody's equal, nobody gets more than one plot.<br><br>the next thing i did was set up an email group. when people ask for a<br>plot, i ask them to join the list. if they don't join, they never get the<br>information needed to sign up. so i ask them to take some responsibility<br>for their interest right away. it's not about a transaction that they pay<br>their little fee for their little plot. they have to actually show up in<br>the list.<br><br>then all the info goes out on the list. everything is done as<br>transparently as possible. assignments are done on a tenure basis, first<br>pick to returning gardeners, then in order of joining the list.<br><br>i invite/suggest tilling the whole bet together in the spring. my wife and<br>i live without a car, so i ask for somebody to pickup the rental tiller,<br>and volunteers come out throughout the day to take turns using it. some<br>don't show, and a few guys have a lot of fun giving the whole thing second<br>and third coats with the powertool. some people have perennials to be<br>saved, and they are responsible for getting those marked for the tillers.<br><br>through the summer, the list allows folks to ask others to water their<br>stuff while they go away. ask questions about various issues, who's<br>stealing tomatoes, what to do about the homeless guy sleeping in the park,<br>is he the guy stealing tomatoes? what about tree trimming? or what about<br>the big tree that shattered in the storm, the expert says it should come<br>down, but can it be saved? always my thing is putting out as much info as<br>i have and asking what anyone thinks, and what anyone can do to contribute.<br>and yes, the shattered tree has been saved for a few years now because a<br>couple of people on the list jumped to do what was needed to make that<br>happen.<br><br>we've had conflict of sorts, at least differences of opinion/agenda over<br>spreading weed poison in the park where the plots are. so that required a<br>fair amount of space holding on the list and in relations with my<br>neighbors. the neighbors were mostly willing to chip in and buy the poison<br>service. the gardeners we're willing to chip in and help dig up the<br>dandelions, also to do research on alternative sprays. one gardener's<br>father was an ag scientiest for one of the chemical companies. so we ended<br>up having a lot of good information, found an organic alternative, had to<br>have only one nasty treatment, and the gardeners worked to dig weeds within<br>the area closest to the garden bed.<br><br>mostly i ask a lot more questions and feed a lot more info into the list,<br>our "wall" and don't hardly ever tell anyone what they need to do. got a<br>little dicey in the weeds process, when a good friend and neighbor who<br>lives right next to the park, and led the weed poison charge, wanted and<br>expected me to do just that -- tell everybody how it was going to be. in<br>the end, my mailbox ends up being where organic weed treatment donations<br>are dropped off by neighbors and gardeners. of course, i am also the<br>keeper of the neighborhood contact info directory page and the neighbors<br>email list. in the garden there are a set of rules posted, as guides, but<br>enforcement is left to the group.<br><br>i guess i should also say that this land is held by a non-profit in chicago<br>that holds or leases claim to 70 or 80 green spaces. they handle<br>insurance, water bills, and other admin issues and contract with a<br>community group (the neighborhood association, in our case) and at least<br>three local garden leaders. the way i came into this is that i saw the<br>previous leadership running a very exclusive, controlling process and<br>happened to meet the director of the non-profit, who mentioned that he'd<br>not heard from our garden leaders for years. i helped him reconnect, but<br>also helped him re-write their contract with community group and leaders,<br>adding a larger section for "stakeholder" signatures. expanding the<br>circle, if you will. so i went around and had this new contract signed by<br>lots of neighbors and had a chance to talk to a lot of folks about what<br>they thought of the park and the garden and the neighborhood. then the old<br>leader got bothered that he'd not be in sole control, and walked out. the<br>neighborhood association took a while to figure out that i wasn't the<br>devil, but over time that's been borne out by the work i've done to engage<br>everyone in an open, expanding, resilient, emerging sort of process.<br><br>for my next trick, i try to get out and go take a nap for a year, or at<br>least get out of some of the stuff like collecting fees, assigning plots,<br>inviting the tiller day to happen. we'll see!<br><br>does that answer the question?<br><br><br>--<br><br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates<br>312-280-7838 (mobile)<br><br>http://MichaelHerman.com<br>http://OpenSpaceWorld.org<br><br><br>On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Annamarie Pluhar <<br>annamarie@pluharconsulting.com> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>Hi! (I started to write just to Michael - but realized that others might<br>find the question and answer of interest.)<br><br>How does the nominal leader run the community garden in OS? Most<br>particularly how does the work that needs to be done to manage the garden<br>as a whole get done?<br><br>I ask as secretary of a Governing Committee that came into existence when<br>the original founders alienated too many people (by being arrogant and<br>punitive and authoritarian) and it was decided we needed to have some<br>structure and governance.<br><br>'Nuff said, interested in the answer!<br><br>Peace,<br>Annamarie<br><br>Annamarie Pluhar<br><br>Pluhar Consulting<br>http://www.pluharconsulting.com<br>802.451.1941<br>802.579.5975 (cell)<br><br>On 14 Dec 2014, at 11:26, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:<br><br>i woke up this morning thinking about this game, thinking in a direction<br>similar to paul levy.<br><br>i am the nominal leader of a community garden now for four years. my<br>management is deeply informed by my learning in and about open space. does<br>it count as 1 or 4?<br><br>i once had a client who flew me in to facilitate a meeting. we also built<br>a weblog and they contacted me a number of times, over several years, with<br>minor technical questions. do the meeting and the blog count as one<br>together, or two separate?<br><br>i taught my grandma to say "ah," as she began the active process of dying.<br>she then repeated that seed syllable, a one-syllable mantra for peace, on<br>every breath of her last week of life. she never opened her eyes but over<br>that week completely relaxed her whole body. was that open space? what<br>about up all night rocking a tiny, sick, neice?<br><br>i saw some new neighbors moving in the other day. our neighborhood has a<br>lot of old houses and everybody moves in and starts updating everything. i<br>offered my tools and experience. if they never take me up on that<br>offer/invitation, does it count? what if they just look for me at my desk<br>in our front window, and wave when they see me, while out walking their<br>dog? that could happen a lot. must count as only once? or maybe it<br>doesn't count at all?<br><br>what about three opening briefings, on three consecutive days of open<br></blockquote>space<br><blockquote type="cite">trainings i've done? and what about all the things that happen after an<br>event, does the original opener get partial credit for things his/her<br>participants open later on?<br><br>to paul's point, i can ask questions like this about almost every<br></blockquote>situation<br><blockquote type="cite">where i facilitated a meeting in an open space way, and about many other<br>situations where i was not "facilitating" anything, apparently. this is<br>one of the ways i understand that we live in open space.<br><br>my approach to training folks in and about open space is significantly<br>focused on the crafting of invitations, in the belief that if we make<br>enough invitations, over time, people, groups and good work are going to<br>show up.<br><br>i also focus on discovering all the different ways that whomever i'm<br>"training" has already been opening space in their own lives. i don't<br>think anyone could come to this work without having already done it<br></blockquote>before.<br><blockquote type="cite">it would be completely un-understandable to them without prior experience.<br>i think people ask for training so they can do what they already know/do<br>better. so i try to build on and from whatever understanding they bring.<br><br>so this question of seven or more is not so easy for me. not sure it's<br>even helpful. i'm more interested in questions like:<br><br> 1. when did you first hear about os or ost?<br> 2. what was the hook? how did you notice it might have value?<br> 3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it inform how you<br> live?<br> 4. what has happened since then? what difference does it seem to make?<br><br>and so on. a new game? the next round? maybe. or maybe it's just the<br>game Murli called OSLIST back in 1996?<br><br>michael<br><br>--<br><br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates<br>312-280-7838 (mobile)<br><br>http://MichaelHerman.com<br>http://OpenSpaceWorld.org<br><br>On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Eva P Svensson via OSList <<br>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><br>I have also stopped counting :-)<br>But love doing it whenever it?s possible.<br>:o)<br>Eva<br>Sweden<br><br>B?sta h?lsningar<br><br>Eva P Svensson<br><br>*EPS Human Invest AB*<br>*Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc*<br>*Medlem i Beyond Performance Group*<br><br><br>*"Verksamhetsutveckling genom m?nniskor skapar l?ngsiktigt v?lm?ende<br>f?retag och organisationer"*<br><br>An?sbergsv?gen 22, 439 34 ONSALA<br>Bes?ksadress; Norra All?gatan 8, G?teborg<br>Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50<br>www.epshumaninvest.se<br>Skype: eva.p.svensson<br>Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB<br>twitter:@EvaPSvensson<br><br><br>*"Jag kan inte l?ra dig n?got. Allt jag kan g?ra ?r att st?lla fr?gor till<br>dig, och l?ta dig sj?lv finna svaren." Sokrates*<br><br>13 dec 2014 kl. 18:05 skrev Gray via OSList <<br>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:<br><br>Um...I've facilitated, at this point, a little over 60. Smallest was 8<br>people on Maui. Largest was about 375, in Chicago. Been doing it since<br>2007.<br><br>And I say "um..." Because I am still learning, still figuring it out, and<br>still hear Lisa Heft in my head saying "be more invisible, Gray..."<br><br>?<br>Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox<br><br>On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <<br>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><br>Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.<br><br>...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience<br>being reported!<br><br>So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ...<br>*explore....*<br><br>So: if you want, *you are cordially invited* to play ... let's call it<br>the OST-7 Game:<br><br>========================================<br>*The OST-7** Game*<br><br>*The Goal:*<br>Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7<br>or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth<br></blockquote>of<br><blockquote type="cite">practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership?<br><br>*The Rules:*<br>If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with<br>"hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to<br>say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair<br>color, etc<br><br>*Tracking Progress:*<br>Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, #<br>of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or<br>absolutely any other measures you like<br><br>*Play:*<br>100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer<br>to just watch the game, that's OK too.<br><br>========================================<br><br>Notes:<br><br> - For this game, "OST" means something like this:<br> http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm<br> - This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've<br> Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime.<br> - Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread<br> stays together, under the same subject<br><br>Steps to Play:<br><br> - Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]<br> - Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to<br> say<br><br>You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see...<br><br>Daniel<br><br>--<br><br>Daniel Mezick, President<br><br>New Technology Solutions Inc.<br><br>(203) 915 7248 (cell)<br>Bio http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/. Blog<br>http://newtechusa.net/blog/. 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So much more to learn and live, the Open<br>Space of life.<br><br>Enjoying the game. This too is new learning for me. Thank you Daniel.<br>Suzanne<br>On Dec 14, 2014 12:38 PM, "via OSList" <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Hi Michael,<br>I enjoyed reading your responses/reflections.<br>You made me think more<br>About the subtleties of working w/others, training, facilitating, & being<br>humanly present.<br>The 7 or more inquiry helped me to process a good number of OS that I have<br>fostered.<br>I am grateful to be conscious now of what had been unconscious.<br>In the stream of things, will this matter or change anything?<br>Probably not.<br>Currently, I have Cancer, receive chemo, & appreciate all recall.<br>Peace & diversity of opinions,<br>Scott<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>On Dec 14, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Michael Herman via OSList <<br>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><br>i woke up this morning thinking about this game, thinking in a direction<br>similar to paul levy.<br><br>i am the nominal leader of a community garden now for four years. my<br>management is deeply informed by my learning in and about open space.<br></blockquote>does<br><blockquote type="cite">it count as 1 or 4?<br><br>i once had a client who flew me in to facilitate a meeting. we also built<br>a weblog and they contacted me a number of times, over several years, with<br>minor technical questions. do the meeting and the blog count as one<br>together, or two separate?<br><br>i taught my grandma to say "ah," as she began the active process of dying.<br>she then repeated that seed syllable, a one-syllable mantra for peace, on<br>every breath of her last week of life. she never opened her eyes but over<br>that week completely relaxed her whole body. was that open space? what<br>about up all night rocking a tiny, sick, neice?<br><br>i saw some new neighbors moving in the other day. our neighborhood has a<br>lot of old houses and everybody moves in and starts updating everything.<br></blockquote>i<br><blockquote type="cite">offered my tools and experience. if they never take me up on that<br>offer/invitation, does it count? what if they just look for me at my desk<br>in our front window, and wave when they see me, while out walking their<br>dog? that could happen a lot. must count as only once? or maybe it<br>doesn't count at all?<br><br>what about three opening briefings, on three consecutive days of open<br>space trainings i've done? and what about all the things that happen<br></blockquote>after<br><blockquote type="cite">an event, does the original opener get partial credit for things his/her<br>participants open later on?<br><br>to paul's point, i can ask questions like this about almost every<br>situation where i facilitated a meeting in an open space way, and about<br>many other situations where i was not "facilitating" anything, apparently.<br>this is one of the ways i understand that we live in open space.<br><br>my approach to training folks in and about open space is significantly<br>focused on the crafting of invitations, in the belief that if we make<br>enough invitations, over time, people, groups and good work are going to<br>show up.<br><br>i also focus on discovering all the different ways that whomever i'm<br>"training" has already been opening space in their own lives. i don't<br>think anyone could come to this work without having already done it<br></blockquote>before.<br><blockquote type="cite">it would be completely un-understandable to them without prior<br></blockquote>experience.<br><blockquote type="cite">i think people ask for training so they can do what they already know/do<br>better. so i try to build on and from whatever understanding they bring.<br><br>so this question of seven or more is not so easy for me. not sure it's<br>even helpful. i'm more interested in questions like:<br><br>1. when did you first hear about os or ost?<br>2. what was the hook? how did you notice it might have value?<br>3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it inform how you live?<br>4. what has happened since then? what difference does it seem to make?<br><br>and so on. a new game? the next round? maybe. or maybe it's just the<br>game Murli called OSLIST back in 1996?<br><br>michael<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>--<br><br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates<br>312-280-7838 (mobile)<br><br>http://MichaelHerman.com<br>http://OpenSpaceWorld.org<br><br><br>On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Eva P Svensson via OSList <<br>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>I have also stopped counting :-)<br>But love doing it whenever it?s possible.<br>:o)<br>Eva<br>Sweden<br><br>B?sta h?lsningar<br><br><br>Eva P Svensson<br><br><br>*EPS Human Invest AB*<br>*Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc*<br>*Medlem i Beyond Performance Group*<br><br><br>*"Verksamhetsutveckling genom m?nniskor skapar l?ngsiktigt v?lm?ende<br>f?retag och organisationer"*<br><br><br>An?sbergsv?gen 22, 439 34 ONSALA<br>Bes?ksadress; Norra All?gatan 8, G?teborg<br>Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50<br>www.epshumaninvest.se<br>Skype: eva.p.svensson<br>Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB<br>twitter:@EvaPSvensson<br><br>*"Jag kan inte l?ra dig n?got. Allt jag kan g?ra ?r att st?lla fr?gor<br>till dig, och l?ta dig sj?lv finna svaren." Sokrates*<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>13 dec 2014 kl. 18:05 skrev Gray via OSList <<br>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:<br><br>Um...I've facilitated, at this point, a little over 60. Smallest was 8<br>people on Maui. Largest was about 375, in Chicago. Been doing it since<br></blockquote></blockquote>2007.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>And I say "um..." Because I am still learning, still figuring it out, and<br>still hear Lisa Heft in my head saying "be more invisible, Gray..."<br><br><br><br>?<br>Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox><br><br><br>On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <<br>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.<br><br>...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience<br>being reported!<br><br>So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ...<br>*explore....*<br><br>So: if you want, *you are cordially invited* to play ... let's call it<br>the OST-7 Game:<br><br><br>========================================<br>*The OST-7** Game*<br>========================================<br><br>*The Goal:*<br>Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated<br>7 or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>depth<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">of practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership?<br><br>*The Rules:*<br>If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with<br>"hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to<br>say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>hair<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">color, etc<br><br>*Tracking Progress:*<br>Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, #<br>of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or<br>absolutely any other measures you like<br><br>*Play:*<br>100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and<br>prefer to just watch the game, that's OK too.<br><br>========================================<br><br><br><br>Notes:<br><br> - For this game, "OST" means something like this:<br> http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm<br> - This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've<br> Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime.<br> - Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the<br> thread stays together, under the same subject<br><br><br>Steps to Play:<br><br> - Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]<br> - Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like<br> to say<br><br><br>You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see...<br><br>Daniel<br><br>--<br><br>Daniel Mezick, President<br><br>New Technology Solutions Inc.<br><br>(203) 915 7248 (cell)<br>Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog<br><http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter<br><http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.<br>Examine my new book: The Culture Game<br><http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the<br>Agile Manager.<br><br>Explore Agile Team Training<br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.<br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/><br><br>Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/><br>Community.<br><br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br><br>_______________________________________________<br></blockquote>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br><br><br></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen<br>ts/20141214/228ee0b2/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 21<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 12:59:56 -0800<br>From: Peggy Holman via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: Open Listserv <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?<br>Message-ID: <0F20C8E2-FA61-45F1-9487-2AA462A8F402@peggyholman.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Michael,<br><br>Thanks for the reframing. It reminds me of a question that informed the<br>stewards of Spirited Work, an Open Space learning community that met in OS 4<br>times a year for 7 years: What does it mean to live one?s life in Open<br>Space? Living in that question has been and continues to be a journey! <br><br>I?ve never counted the number of times I?ve walked the circle, formally<br>opening space. My first experience with OST was in 1994 and since then, I?ve<br>worked with groups as small as 5 and as large as 2,100 from all different<br>sectors ? business, government, nonprofit, community and on 5 continents. I<br>know there?s no way I would have had to courage to run an OS with 1,800<br>street kids and 300 teachers in Bogota, Colombia in a language I don?t speak<br>if it hadn?t been for the deep learning that came from years of being on<br>this list!!<br><br>Daniel?s question had me reflecting on the path I?ve traveled as part of<br>this community. Your gift of openspaceworld.org <http://openspaceworld.org/><br>gave us an early presence on the web. That was and is huge. Some of my<br>activities, done, as you noted, because I felt inspired to do them:<br><br>1995 Produced U S WEST Open Space Video. At Harrison?s suggestion, produced<br>a video about a 250-ish person OS at U S WEST Communications in Arizona.<br>It?s now on Vimeo: http://vimeo.com/25251316 <http://vimeo.com/25251316>.<br>When we made it, 16 minutes was considered short!<br><br>1996 Co-founded Open Space Institute-US. I was one of seven at a gathering<br>with Harrison in Seattle. It was part of a larger vision of OSIs around the<br>world. Brian Bainbridge took the lead in Australia and Larry Peterson,<br>Birgitt Williams, and Diane Gibeault (I think) did the same in Canada.<br><br>1996 Involved with starting the OS listserv. Part of the original dozen or<br>so folks who joined this list that Murli Nagasandurum set up for us, a<br>spontaneous act of generosity prompted by a message we sent out to everyone<br>on Harrison?s emailing list when we were getting OSI-US going.<br><br>1998 Co-hosted the 6th annual OSonOS in Monterrey, California. Right after<br>the first not done by Harrison held in Toronto hosted by Birgitt Williams<br>and Larry Peterson and right before Chicago, hosted by Michael Hermann,<br>which was the last before it left North America for Berlin, hosted by<br>Michael M Pannwitz.<br><br>1999 Produced Understanding Open Space. I put a mike on Harrison during an<br>OST workshop we co-hosted in Seattle and produced a 5-CD audio set called<br>Understanding Open Space. Harold Shinsato has turned it into a series of<br>podcasts. He?ll have to provide the details on how to access it. Those who<br>have heard it say it?s a treat! (My personal favorite line is the very last<br>thing he says on the last track. How?s that for a teaser?)<br><br><br>I look at those dates and wonder where did the time go? It all was so long<br>ago! Yet people who are nearest and dearest to me are people I have met<br>through the years in this community. As quiet as I?ve been in the last few<br>years, I still consider this community a home base.<br><br>I?m better because of OSlist. And because of the people I?ve come to love<br>along the way.<br><br>Peggy<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>_________________________________<br>Peggy Holman<br>Executive Director<br>Journalism that Matters<br>15347 SE 49th Place<br>Bellevue, WA 98006<br>425-746-6274<br>www.journalismthatmatters.net<br>www.peggyholman.com<br>Twitter: @peggyholman<br>JTM Twitter: @JTMStream<br><br>Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning?Upheaval into<br>Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com/><br>Check out my series on what's?emerging in the news &?information ecosystem<br><http://www.journalismthatmatters.net/the_emerging_news_and_information_eco_<br>system><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><blockquote type="cite">On Dec 14, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Michael Herman via OSList<br></blockquote><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>i woke up this morning thinking about this game, thinking in a direction<br></blockquote>similar to paul levy.<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>i am the nominal leader of a community garden now for four years. my<br></blockquote>management is deeply informed by my learning in and about open space. does<br>it count as 1 or 4? <br><blockquote type="cite"><br>i once had a client who flew me in to facilitate a meeting. we also built<br></blockquote>a weblog and they contacted me a number of times, over several years, with<br>minor technical questions. do the meeting and the blog count as one<br>together, or two separate?<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>i taught my grandma to say "ah," as she began the active process of dying.<br></blockquote>she then repeated that seed syllable, a one-syllable mantra for peace, on<br>every breath of her last week of life. she never opened her eyes but over<br>that week completely relaxed her whole body. was that open space? what<br>about up all night rocking a tiny, sick, neice?<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>i saw some new neighbors moving in the other day. our neighborhood has a<br></blockquote>lot of old houses and everybody moves in and starts updating everything. i<br>offered my tools and experience. if they never take me up on that<br>offer/invitation, does it count? what if they just look for me at my desk<br>in our front window, and wave when they see me, while out walking their dog?<br>that could happen a lot. must count as only once? or maybe it doesn't<br>count at all? <br><blockquote type="cite"><br>what about three opening briefings, on three consecutive days of open<br></blockquote>space trainings i've done? and what about all the things that happen after<br>an event, does the original opener get partial credit for things his/her<br>participants open later on? <br><blockquote type="cite"><br>to paul's point, i can ask questions like this about almost every<br></blockquote>situation where i facilitated a meeting in an open space way, and about many<br>other situations where i was not "facilitating" anything, apparently. this<br>is one of the ways i understand that we live in open space. <br><blockquote type="cite"><br>my approach to training folks in and about open space is significantly<br></blockquote>focused on the crafting of invitations, in the belief that if we make enough<br>invitations, over time, people, groups and good work are going to show up. <br><blockquote type="cite"><br>i also focus on discovering all the different ways that whomever i'm<br></blockquote>"training" has already been opening space in their own lives. i don't think<br>anyone could come to this work without having already done it before. it<br>would be completely un-understandable to them without prior experience. i<br>think people ask for training so they can do what they already know/do<br>better. so i try to build on and from whatever understanding they bring.<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>so this question of seven or more is not so easy for me. not sure it's<br></blockquote>even helpful. i'm more interested in questions like:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>1. when did you first hear about os or ost?<br>2. what was the hook? how did you notice it might have value?<br>3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it inform how you live?<br>4. what has happened since then? what difference does it seem to make?<br><br>and so on. a new game? the next round? maybe. or maybe it's just the<br></blockquote>game Murli called OSLIST back in 1996? <br><blockquote type="cite"><br>michael<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>--<br><br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates<br>312-280-7838 (mobile)<br><br>http://MichaelHerman.com <http://michaelherman.com/><br>http://OpenSpaceWorld.org <http://openspaceworld.org/><br><br><br>On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Eva P Svensson via OSList<br></blockquote><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>><br>wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">I have also stopped counting :-)<br>But love doing it whenever it?s possible.<br>:o)<br>Eva<br>Sweden<br><br>B?sta h?lsningar<br><br>Eva P Svensson<br><br>EPS Human Invest AB<br>Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc<br>Medlem i Beyond Performance Group<br><br>"Verksamhetsutveckling genom m?nniskor skapar l?ngsiktigt v?lm?ende<br></blockquote>f?retag och organisationer"<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>An?sbergsv?gen 22, 439 34 ONSALA<br>Bes?ksadress; Norra All?gatan 8, G?teborg<br>Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50<br>www.epshumaninvest.se <http://www.epshumaninvest.se/><br>Skype: eva.p.svensson<br>Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB<br>twitter:@EvaPSvensson<br><br>"Jag kan inte l?ra dig n?got. Allt jag kan g?ra ?r att st?lla fr?gor till<br></blockquote>dig, och l?ta dig sj?lv finna svaren." Sokrates<br><blockquote type="cite"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><blockquote type="cite">13 dec 2014 kl. 18:05 skrev Gray via OSList<br></blockquote></blockquote><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>:<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Um...I've facilitated, at this point, a little over 60. Smallest was 8<br></blockquote></blockquote>people on Maui. Largest was about 375, in Chicago. Been doing it since 2007.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>And I say "um..." Because I am still learning, still figuring it out, and<br></blockquote></blockquote>still hear Lisa Heft in my head saying "be more invisible, Gray..."<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br><br><br>?<br>Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox><br><br>On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList<br></blockquote></blockquote><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>><br>wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.<br><br>...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience<br></blockquote></blockquote>being reported! <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ...<br></blockquote></blockquote>explore....<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>So: if you want, you are cordially invited to play ... let's call it the<br></blockquote></blockquote>OST-7 Game:<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br><br>========================================<br>The OST-7 Game<br>========================================<br><br>The Goal:<br>Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7<br></blockquote></blockquote>or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth of<br>practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership?<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>The Rules:<br>If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with<br></blockquote></blockquote>"hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to<br>say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair<br>color, etc<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Tracking Progress:<br>Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, #<br></blockquote></blockquote>of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or<br>absolutely any other measures you like<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Play:<br>100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer<br></blockquote></blockquote>to just watch the game, that's OK too. <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>========================================<br><br><br><br>Notes:<br><br>For this game, "OST" means something like this:<br></blockquote></blockquote>http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm<br><http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've Facilitated at<br></blockquote></blockquote>least 7 of these events in your lifetime.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread stays<br></blockquote></blockquote>together, under the same subject<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Steps to Play:<br>Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]<br>Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to say<br><br>You are invited. What might happen next? Let's see...<br><br>Daniel<br><br>-- <br>Daniel Mezick, President<br><br>New Technology Solutions Inc.<br><br>(203) 915 7248 <tel:%28203%29%20915%207248> (cell)<br><br>Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog<br></blockquote></blockquote><http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Examine my new book: The Culture Game?<br></blockquote></blockquote><http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the Agile<br>Manager.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Explore Agile Team Training<br></blockquote></blockquote><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.<br><http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Explore the Agile Boston?<br></blockquote></blockquote><http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>Community. <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br></blockquote></blockquote><mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br></blockquote></blockquote><mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br></blockquote></blockquote><http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org><br><blockquote type="cite"><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br></blockquote><mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org><br><blockquote type="cite">To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br></blockquote><mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org><br><blockquote type="cite">To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br></blockquote><http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org><br><blockquote type="cite"><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br></blockquote><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachmen<br>ts/20141214/f2bee30b/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 22<br>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 23:15:50 +0100<br>From: ingrid ebeling ebus via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>To: Peggy Holman <peggy@peggyholman.com>,<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>World wide Open Space<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Technology email list<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br>Subject: Re: [OSList] How do we define LURKER?<br>Message-ID: <F2866DBF-F883-4DBE-89DA-05F528DC1621@institut-ebus.de><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br><br>I feel like an ?active reader? and like a lurker alternately.<br>Ingrid<br><br><br>Ingrid Ebeling, EBUS <br>Institut f?r Entwicklungsberatung und Supervision<br><br>Systemische OE-Prozessberatung und -Designs <br>Executive-Coaching ? Gro?gruppen-Interventionen<br><br>Am Alten Geh?ge 6 ? D- 30657 Hannover<br>fon +49-511-336 03 30 ? fax +49-511-336 03 47<br>mobile +49-172-5145179<br>ie@institut-ebus.de ? http://www.institut-ebus.de<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Am 14.12.2014 um 20:59 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList<br><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">I have played with the term "active readers" rather than lurkers. Has a<br></blockquote>different tone.<br><blockquote type="cite"><br><br>The compulsive historian in me wants to mention that in November, 2009, a<br></blockquote>message called Roll Call: Present was sent by Erik Fabian (who contributed<br>about 15 messages from June to November of that year.) He asked people just<br>to respond with a ?present?. While he used the term lurkers, he included in<br>a larger framing (below).<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>By his count, it brought 100+ responses, similar in tone to those<br></blockquote>responding now. Ironically, Erik?s reflections on the roll call (also below)<br>was his last message to the list.<br><blockquote type="cite"><br><br>appreciatively,<br>Peggy<br><br><br>ROLL CALL: PRESENT<br><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 24, 2009, at 1:13 AM, Erik Fabian <erik@DOUBLEHAPPINESSNYC.COM><br></blockquote></blockquote>wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>I was intrigued by Phelim's observation that the OSLIST, not being a<br></blockquote></blockquote>physical space, lacks the <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">information that comes from people sitting silent or choosing to leave.<br><br>I invite the many folks, the lurkers, the newbies, the old hands, the<br></blockquote></blockquote>folks with better things to do, <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">anyone really...to respond to this message with a "present" if you would<br></blockquote></blockquote>like to be noted as attending <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">to this virtual space.<br><br>I know it won't solve the exiting problem but it might perhaps give a<br></blockquote></blockquote>sense of scale to the ratio of <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">talkers to the silent.<br><br>Erik - present<br><br>*<br><br></blockquote><br><br>REFLECTING ON THE ROLL CALL<br><br><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 29, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Erik Fabian <erik@DOUBLEHAPPINESSNYC.COM><br></blockquote></blockquote>wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Hi all,<br><br>1st thing: I don't mean to stop the Roll Call if folks would still like<br></blockquote></blockquote>to chime in. Feel welcome.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>2nd: I was quite struck by the 100+ voices that have called present so<br></blockquote></blockquote>far in the Roll Call. Your <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">responses reoriented my sense of scale on this list and created a<br></blockquote></blockquote>fascinating moment where I <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">didn't know what was going to happen next...I felt like I watching a<br></blockquote></blockquote>filibuster or something. <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>I was also struck by the sense of willingness to continue to be present<br></blockquote></blockquote>in this OSLIST conversation <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">despite disagreements, other options, shyness, busy lives, etc. That felt<br></blockquote></blockquote>like some kind of bedrock <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">to me.<br><br>The momentum has slowed and the thread has mixed back into the stream of<br></blockquote></blockquote>multiple <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">conversations on the list. I have also started to hear some reflection<br></blockquote></blockquote>from Michael (here: <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">http://tinyurl.com/ygupaax) & Harold (here: http://tinyurl.com/ykx3scs)<br></blockquote></blockquote>and so it seems <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">appropriate to put out a broader invitation to reflect on the Roll Call.<br><br>I suppose I should say, I viewed the Roll Call responses in the context<br></blockquote></blockquote>of a couple weeks of debate <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">about OS, where the online OS community should find its home, differing<br></blockquote></blockquote>values around online <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">communication styles, and thoughts about OS and change.<br><br>Peggy asked an interesting question recently: How do the Open Space<br></blockquote></blockquote>principles help us both <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">support and resist change and what does that mean for the evolution of<br></blockquote></blockquote>OST and opening space? <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">(http://tinyurl.com/yzg8nh9)<br><br>So I invite anyone, anyone who was present or silently sat aside, who<br></blockquote></blockquote>would like to reflect on the <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Roll Call to feel welcome to do so, and to perhaps consider the Roll Call<br></blockquote></blockquote>in the light of recent <br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">debates on this list or Peggy's question about change and the future of<br></blockquote></blockquote>OS.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Cheers,<br>Erik<br><br>*<br></blockquote>*<br><br><br><br><br>_________________________________<br>Peggy Holman<br>Executive Director<br>Journalism that Matters<br>15347 SE 49th Place<br>Bellevue, WA 98006<br>425-746-6274<br>www.journalismthatmatters.net<br>www.peggyholman.com<br>Twitter: @peggyholman<br>JTM Twitter: @JTMStream<br><br>Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into<br></blockquote>Opportunity<br><blockquote type="cite">Check out my series on what's emerging in the news & information ecosystem<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><blockquote type="cite">On Dec 11, 2014, at 10:23 AM, openspacedk1 via OSList<br></blockquote></blockquote><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Hello all,<br><br>Given we are a community working with open space,<br><br>therefore able or learning to be absolutely present<br>and absolutely invisible<br><br>isn't what we see the only thing that could happen ?<br><br><br>Greetings Gerard, Denmark<br><br><br><br>ichael Herman via OSList skrev den 2014-12-11 17:08:<br><blockquote type="cite">Perhaps a bit of conflict in the definition, as it seems to say that<br>listening isn't active participation.<br>My working definition for leadership, in any field, is practice made<br>visible. Maybe visible is useful in place of active.<br>Yes, this suggests a distinction between lurkers and leaders, but it<br>also allows for the definition of leader and our leadership ranks here<br>to expand.<br>I have been very visible here in the past but less so in recent years.<br>Reading most everything, but not so visible.<br>I think every single posting leads some us somewhere, even if those<br>places aren't so obvious.<br>Enjoying seeing so many familiar names mixed in with new ones.<br>Michael<br>On Thursday, December 11, 2014, Daniel Mezick via OSList<br><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">In the game, as described, the definition of [lurker] is clear:<br>"...someone who examines these OSLIST threads periodically but does<br>not actively participate."<br>The definition is purposefully loose, so anyone can self-identify<br>with it, and optionally play the game.<br>Daniel<br>On 12/11/14 9:32 AM, Carmela Ariza via OSList wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Dear all,<br>It is very interesting - that asking who are lurkers - encouraged<br>the lurkers to come out and write a few sentences...<br>I am curious - how do we really define LURKERS?<br>Would love to listen to your thoughts on this....<br>Carms<br>True happiness is a state of mind.<br>Happiness is not a consequence of things that happen.<br>Do not pursue happiness - practice it.<br>Sing, even if you do not sound good.<br>Smile, even when things go wrong.<br>Create happiness, and happy you will be.<br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To unsubscribe send an email to<br>OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org<br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br></blockquote>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org<br><blockquote type="cite">[1]<br></blockquote>--<br>Daniel Mezick, President<br>New Technology Solutions Inc.<br>(203) 915 7248 (cell)<br>Bio [2]. 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