<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body >Chris I've always appreciated your work across borders of all kinds. Great story!<div><br></div><div>Jeff</div><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan@gmail.com> <br>Date:12/15/2014 6:26 PM (GMT-08:00) <br>To: Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com>,World wide Open Space Technology email list <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> <br>Cc: Harold Shinsato <harold@shinsato.com> <br>Subject: Re: [OSList] “regular lurker” + our OSTLIST web platform <br><br>I was once stopped at the US border and asked what work I was doing in the USA. I told the border officer that I was facilitating Open Space Technology.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">He paused for a moment and then narrowed his eyes and said “I didn’t know our space technology WAS open. And I can’t imagine what or who you are facilitating with it.”</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I spent two hours in secondary screening, which including looking through websites with another border officer who concluded that “this is cool.”</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Strike one for the good guys. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Chris</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Thanks Harold. Great work.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">I note with sly smile that some people who join the Facebook group</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">"Open Space Technology" turn out to be interested in cool topics like</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">satellite traffic around the Earth, and traveling to other galaxies</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">thru wormholes.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">While this has a certain resonance with our topics, we're not yet at</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">the level of blending these domains. I look forward to that day...</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Jeff</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">On 12/15/14, Harold Shinsato via OSList <</span><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">> wrote:</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Thanks for all the input about OSLIST. I manage the OSLIST on behalf of<br class="">the Open Space Institute U.S., and we hold this responsibility very<br class="">seriously. There is no plan to replace the OSLIST. But it is always<br class="">possible that changes may become a good idea, or necessary. When our<br class="">ListServ at Boise State was going to expire, the OSLIST moved from<br class="">ListServ to Gnu Mailman. The functionality is essentially the same,<br class="">although the email address changed as did the management software and<br class="">out internet service provider (thank to World Blu certified DreamHost<br class="">for their free hosting of 501(c)(3) non-profit organizations!) But given<br class="">how well our simple email interface works for us, I can't imagine that<br class="">changing anytime soon.<br class=""><br class="">I like what Michael Herman said about adding offerings. Although there<br class="">is a strong call not to make any changes, I hope that folks will not be<br class="">discouraged from thinking of adding to (or augmenting) the set of<br class="">platforms our community can use - even if many people like what we have<br class="">now. The membership on the facebook and linkedin Open Space lists are<br class="">growing much more rapidly that the OSLIST - and even though the depth<br class="">and engagement on those platforms is vastly inferior to what we have<br class="">managed to accomplish here - it seems wise to pay attention. To me at<br class="">least, it would be a shame if private corporations managed to take<br class="">ownership of our community membership list and archives because the<br class="">OSLIST failed to keep up with the needs of our community.<br class=""><br class="">The OSI-US is meeting today in an hour. Given how useful Daniel Mezick's<br class="">games have been, we are likely to run a small survey to our community<br class="">around a temperature check on the user experience of the OSLIST, our<br class="">culture, and solicit feedback about ways we can get better that won't<br class="">require posting to the whole community. Please feel free to message me<br class="">privately, or the entire list, if you have suggestions about such a survey.<br class=""><br class="">Thanks everyone for contributing to both the "meeting" facilitation<br class="">process and the wonderful way of being that is Open Space.<br class=""><br class=""> Regards,<br class=""> Harold<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 12/15/14 2:02 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">OSLIST is not merely a tool, it is a culture.<br class=""><br class="">Replacing it will create a radical disruption to the culture that has<br class="">been around for almost 20 years. So there’s that.<br class=""><br class="">I don’t see a reason to change the list or replace it, and I’m not<br class="">especially inspired by any other ways to connect around OST practice.<br class="">The best is those of you that actively blog and share your learnings<br class="">online. I get all those in my feed reader, although folks seem to be<br class="">blogging less and less these days in favour of facebook it seems. But<br class="">no matter. OSLIST trucks along.<br class=""><br class="">Chris<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Dec 13, 2014, at 7:10 PM, Elwin and Joan via OSList<br class=""><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br class=""><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" class="">mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Michael,<br class=""><br class="">You sir are truly a give of God.<br class=""><br class="">We all are in your debt.<br class=""><br class="">Elwin Guild<br class=""><br class="">------------------------------------------------------------------------<br class="">*From:* Michael Herman via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br class=""><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" class="">mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>><br class="">*To:* Patricia Haines <<a href="mailto:levelgreen2010@gmail.com" class="">levelgreen2010@gmail.com</a><br class=""><<a href="mailto:levelgreen2010@gmail.com" class="">mailto:levelgreen2010@gmail.com</a>>>; World wide Open Space Technology<br class="">email list <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br class=""><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" class="">mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>><br class="">*Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2014 1:22 PM<br class="">*Subject:* Re: [OSList] “regular lurker” + our OSTLIST web platform<br class=""><br class="">I think it was about 1998 when murkier, who started the list at boise<br class="">state univ, suggested moving the list to a fancy up-and-coming<br class="">platform called egroups. It was a threaded discussion email site. In<br class="">my memory, must be the biggest and most energized conversation we<br class="">ever had on this list. In the end, it was rejected. And where is<br class="">egroups today?<br class=""><br class="">At<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://openspaceworld.org/" class="">openspaceworld.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="http://openspaceworld.org/" class="">http://openspaceworld.org/</a>>, since 1999, we<br class="">have had discussion forums, wiki, wordpress group blog, but the I<br class="">think the best thing we did was that I wrote some "about OST" stuff<br class="">and artur de silva suggested that it ought to be in languages other<br class="">than English. He volunteered to do Spanish andPortuguese, others did<br class="">their languages too. The tasks were simple and defined and got done<br class="">whenever anyone came forward and offered something. Now we have links<br class="">to intro material in 17 languages I think. All completely unplanned,<br class="">but supported by just keeping the site online.<br class=""><br class="">In the meantime, there is a Wikipedia page, a Facebook group, a Ning<br class="">community, the os hotline, and any number of regional lists and<br class="">groups and meet ups of various shapes and frequencies.<br class=""><br class="">it's easy to design and build a site or platform, but yet another<br class="">thing to keep it going and up to date. And I don't think we can build<br class="">anything and expect it to both replace an established community<br class="">center and also grow past it, succeeding where every past effort has<br class="">not.<br class=""><br class="">At the same time, none of those prior offerings really set out to<br class="">replace anything, I think. They all just offered something else. And<br class="">that is an approach that seems very open spacey to me, to just do<br class="">something, try something, offer something and see what happens. It<br class="">might displace everything or nothing, but that won't matter. It's the<br class="">offering, I think, that keep us going.<br class=""><br class="">I'm glad to offer sub domain space at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://openspaceworld.org/" class="">openspaceworld.org</a><br class=""><<a href="http://openspaceworld.org/" class="">http://openspaceworld.org/</a>> for anything that wants building and<br class="">trying. Done this with many language wikis over the years.<br class=""><br class="">I'm also getting ready to cleanup at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://openspaceworld.org/" class="">openspaceworld.org</a><br class=""><<a href="http://openspaceworld.org/" class="">http://openspaceworld.org/</a>>, so anyone who wants to help think and<br class="">do about that is welcome. It's the one big site/platform we have<br class="">that's completely unconstrained by the structures imposed by service<br class="">companies like Facebook. So we can do anything we want there to tie<br class="">all the other things together, as long as we also find a way to<br class="">maintain past contributions.<br class=""><br class="">I always keep looking for ways for<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://openspaceworld.org/" class="">openspaceworld.org</a><br class=""><<a href="http://openspaceworld.org/" class="">http://openspaceworld.org/</a>> to virtually disappear, into just a set<br class="">of links, something michael pannwitz suggested to me when the site<br class="">was still just six months old, and in that way to suggest<br class="">and demonstrate that os is much bigger than any of these platforms.<br class=""><br class="">Michael<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On Saturday, December 13, 2014, Patricia Haines via OSList<br class=""><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br class=""><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" class="">mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""> Please don't replace this listserv with something complicated!<br class=""><br class=""> Level Green Institute: fostering just & sustainable community<br class=""> through education and the arts<br class=""><br class=""> On Dec 13, 2014, at 5:35 AM, Arturo Uscategui-Colaboremos via<br class=""> OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""> Dear All,<br class=""> And what if we set a team to design, develop, deliver and<br class=""> maintain our new wonderful OSTLIST web platform, which will be<br class=""> up to the requirements to replace this OSLIST?<br class=""> This team could work on an Agile way.<br class=""> I’ll be happy to contribute. I don’t know exactly how, but I’ll<br class=""> be there to do it together with those who wish to do it also.<br class=""> ;)<br class=""> ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT FROM WITHIN<br class=""> <a href="http://www.colaboremos.com/" class="">www.colaboremos.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="http://www.colaboremos.com/" class="">http://www.colaboremos.com/</a>><br class=""> Arturo Uscátegui Restrepo<br class=""> Transition Facilitator Specialized in Organizational Development.<br class=""> Helping organizations to collaborate and find their own<br class=""> solutions from within<br class=""> +33 (0)6 52 14 29 09<br class=""> Skype: auscateguir<br class=""> Twitter: @icolaboremos<br class=""> Linked in :<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://fr.linkedin.com/in/arturouscategui/" class="">fr.linkedin.com/in/arturouscategui/</a><br class=""> <<a href="http://fr.linkedin.com/in/arturouscategui/" 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