<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Michael,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks for the reframing. It reminds me of a question that informed the stewards of Spirited Work, an Open Space learning community that met in OS 4 times a year for 7 years: What does it mean to live one’s life in Open Space? Living in that question has been and continues to be a journey! </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’ve never counted the number of times I’ve walked the circle, formally opening space. My first experience with OST was in 1994 and since then, I’ve worked with groups as small as 5 and as large as 2,100 from all different sectors — business, government, nonprofit, community and on 5 continents. I know there’s no way I would have had to courage to run an OS with 1,800 street kids and 300 teachers in Bogota, Colombia in a language I don’t speak if it hadn’t been for the deep learning that came from years of being on this list!!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Daniel’s question had me reflecting on the path I’ve traveled as part of this community. Your gift of <a href="http://openspaceworld.org" class="">openspaceworld.org</a> gave us an early presence on the web. That was and is huge. Some of my activities, done, as you noted, because I felt inspired to do them:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">1995 Produced U S WEST Open Space Video</b>. At Harrison’s suggestion, produced a video about a 250-ish person OS at U S WEST Communications in Arizona. It’s now on Vimeo: <a href="http://vimeo.com/25251316" class="">http://vimeo.com/25251316</a>. When we made it, 16 minutes was considered short!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">1996 Co-founded Open Space Institute-US</b>. I was one of seven at a gathering with Harrison in Seattle. It was part of a larger vision of OSIs around the world. Brian Bainbridge took the lead in Australia and Larry Peterson, Birgitt Williams, and Diane Gibeault (I think) did the same in Canada.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">1996 Involved with starting the OS listserv. </b>Part of the original dozen or so folks who joined this list that Murli Nagasandurum set up for us, a spontaneous act of generosity prompted by a message we sent out to everyone on Harrison’s emailing list when we were getting OSI-US going.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">1998 Co-hosted the 6th annual OSonOS in Monterrey, California.</b> Right after the first not done by Harrison held in Toronto hosted by Birgitt Williams and Larry Peterson and right before Chicago, hosted by Michael Hermann, which was the last before it left North America for Berlin, hosted by Michael M Pannwitz.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">1999 Produced Understanding Open Space</b>. I put a mike on Harrison during an OST workshop we co-hosted in Seattle and produced a 5-CD audio set called Understanding Open Space. Harold Shinsato has turned it into a series of podcasts. He’ll have to provide the details on how to access it. Those who have heard it say it’s a treat! (My personal favorite line is the very last thing he says on the last track. How’s that for a teaser?)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I look at those dates and wonder where did the time go? It all was so long ago! Yet people who are nearest and dearest to me are people I have met through the years in this community. As quiet as I’ve been in the last few years, I still consider this community a home base.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m better because of OSlist. And because of the people I’ve come to love along the way.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Peggy</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 14, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Michael Herman via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">i woke up this morning thinking about this game, thinking in a direction similar to paul levy.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">i am the nominal leader of a community garden now for four years. my management is deeply informed by my learning in and about open space. does it count as 1 or 4? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">i once had a client who flew me in to facilitate a meeting. we also built a weblog and they contacted me a number of times, over several years, with minor technical questions. do the meeting and the blog count as one together, or two separate?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">i taught my grandma to say "ah," as she began the active process of dying. she then repeated that seed syllable, a one-syllable mantra for peace, on every breath of her last week of life. she never opened her eyes but over that week completely relaxed her whole body. was that open space? what about up all night rocking a tiny, sick, neice?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">i saw some new neighbors moving in the other day. our neighborhood has a lot of old houses and everybody moves in and starts updating everything. i offered my tools and experience. if they never take me up on that offer/invitation, does it count? what if they just look for me at my desk in our front window, and wave when they see me, while out walking their dog? that could happen a lot. must count as only once? or maybe it doesn't count at all? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">what about three opening briefings, on three consecutive days of open space trainings i've done? and what about all the things that happen after an event, does the original opener get partial credit for things his/her participants open later on? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">to paul's point, i can ask questions like this about almost every situation where i facilitated a meeting in an open space way, and about many other situations where i was not "facilitating" anything, apparently. this is one of the ways i understand that we live in open space. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">my approach to training folks in and about open space is significantly focused on the crafting of invitations, in the belief that if we make enough invitations, over time, people, groups and good work are going to show up. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">i also focus on discovering all the different ways that whomever i'm "training" has already been opening space in their own lives. i don't think anyone could come to this work without having already done it before. it would be completely un-understandable to them without prior experience. i think people ask for training so they can do what they already know/do better. so i try to build on and from whatever understanding they bring.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">so this question of seven or more is not so easy for me. not sure it's even helpful. i'm more interested in questions like:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1. when did you first hear about os or ost?</div><div class="">2. what was the hook? how did you notice it might have value?</div><div class="">3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it inform how you live?</div><div class="">4. what has happened since then? what difference does it seem to make?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">and so on. a new game? the next round? maybe. or maybe it's just the game Murli called OSLIST back in 1996? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">michael</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_signature"> <br class="">--<br class=""><br class="">Michael Herman<br class="">Michael Herman Associates<br class="">312-280-7838 (mobile)<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://michaelherman.com/" target="_blank" class="">http://MichaelHerman.com</a><br class=""><a href="http://openspaceworld.org/" target="_blank" class="">http://OpenSpaceWorld.org</a><br class=""><br class=""></div></div>
<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Eva P Svensson via OSList <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">I have also stopped counting :-)<div class="">But love doing it whenever it’s possible.</div><div class="">:o)</div><div class="">Eva</div><div class="">Sweden<br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">13 dec 2014 kl. 18:05 skrev Gray via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="h5"><span style="font-family:Corbel;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class="">Um...I've facilitated, at this point, a little over 60. Smallest was 8 people on Maui. Largest was about 375, in Chicago. Been doing it since 2007.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And I say "um..." Because I am still learning, still figuring it out, and still hear Lisa Heft in my head saying "be more invisible, Gray..."</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></span><div style="font-family:Corbel;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class=""><br class="">—<br class="">Sent from<span class=""> </span><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox" target="_blank" class="">Mailbox</a></div><br style="font-family:Corbel;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class=""><br style="font-family:Corbel;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class=""><div class="gmail_quote" style="font-family:Corbel;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><p class="">On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList<span class=""> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><span class=""> </span>wrote:<br class=""></p><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><p class="">Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.<br class=""><br class="">...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of experience being reported!<span class=""> </span><br class=""><br class="">So interesting ... so much depth. Seems like something to ...<span class=""> </span><i class="">explore....</i><br class=""><br class="">So: if you want,<span class=""> </span><i class="">you are cordially invited</i><span class=""> </span>to play ... let's call it the OST-7 Game:<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">========================================<br class=""><b class="">The OST-7</b><b class=""><span class=""> </span>Game</b><br class="">========================================<br class=""><br class=""><b class="">The Goal:</b><br class="">Get a collective idea of how many people here have actually Facilitated 7 or more OST events in their lifetime. Put another way: what is the depth of practical OST facilitation experience across the entire membership?<br class=""><br class=""><b class="">The Rules:</b><br class="">If you have Facilitated at least 7 OST events, consider replying with "hey" ... or optionally, with absolutely anything else you might like to say, for example: where you are located, last time you did one, your hair color, etc<br class=""><br class=""><b class="">Tracking Progress:</b><br class="">Watch the thread to track progress, by: # of replies, # of countries, # of OST events, replies per unit of time, # of people with red hair, or absolutely any other measures you like<br class=""><b class=""><br class=""></b><b class="">Play:</b><br class="">100% optional. Play if you like. If you've done more 7 or more and prefer to just watch the game, that's OK too.<span class=""> </span><br class=""><br class="">========================================<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Notes:<br class=""></p><ul class=""><li class="">For this game, "OST" means something like this:<span class=""> </span><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm" target="_blank" class="">http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm</a><br class=""></li><li class="">This is for Facilitating only; consider replying if you've Facilitated at least 7 of these events in your lifetime.<br class=""></li><li class="">Please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply List], so the thread stays together, under the same subject</li></ul><br class="">Steps to Play:<br class=""><ul class=""><li class="">Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]</li><li class="">Reply with "hey" or with absolutely anything else you might like to say<br class=""></li></ul><br class="">You are invited. 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