<div dir="ltr">Yes, and here's a link to see the guitar strings each vibrating in their own way and together harmonies are created,  and also one of artist Lisa Sparks with feelings vibrations in bowls of water.  I hope you can see a relation to what is happening in OS wherever, whenever life is happening.

















<p class="MsoNormal"><span style><span class=""><a href="http://www.thelisapark.com/#/">http://www.thelisapark.com/#/</a></span></span><span style>   </span>Lisa Sparks Vibrations</p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style><span class=""><a href="http://youtu.be/TKF6nFzpHBU">http://youtu.be/TKF6nFzpHBU</a></span></span><span style>      </span>Guitar
Vibrations</p>





</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Hi Anne,<br>
    <br>
    Roberta my wife and I recently viewed a show on TV together (NOVA)
    about "sociobiology." And there was this scientist E.O. Wilson. He's
    this weird guy that studies ants. And this term "stigmergy" comes up
    during the viewing.<br>
    <br>
    Later, we discuss the topics of ants and signaling. We discuss ants,
    signs, signals, symbols and words. Words like "music." We discuss
    how some truly great musicians play from pure feel, and cannot
    "read" music at all, and may in fact "be illiterate." They play the
    instrument using here-and-now sensing, and feelings. They make
    amazing sounds.<br>
    <br>
    How the instrument physically makes sound can be precisely
    described. Yet how the musician makes his or her sound cannot. And
    we discuss how some people are very good at using the instrument to
    make a very specific sound (without being able to clearly explain
    how) while others are good at describing in general terms how the
    instrument can produce many sounds (without being good at making any
    pleasing sounds at all with the instrument.)<br>
    <br>
    Today we talked about Open Space in light of the word 'stigmergy'
    and this show on NOVA, and music. <br>
    <br>
    And how perhaps Open Space is maybe a kind of instrument. That
    produces vibrations. Some folks just know how to play the instrument
    to produce very specific, purposeful, pleasing vibrations. Another
    set of people can clearly explain how the instrument can produce
    arbitrary vibrations. And how maybe some people belong to both
    groups, and can play the instrument well, and also clearly explain
    how it actually the instrument makes various vibrations.<br>
    <br>
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    <br>
    Daniel<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 11/30/14 12:12 AM, Anne Stadler via
      OSList wrote:<br>
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          <div>Re studying self-organization<br>
            Thanks all. </div>
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          </div>
          <div>Yes HO all IS self-organization.</div>
          <div>However i'm not interested in just any kind of self
            organization.  OST or Opening space is oriented to
            facilitating self authorization; ease of emergence; rapid
            achievement of flow state and high degree of coherence.
             That's my experience gained in a seven year experiment in
            using OST to evolve an Open Space Learning Community of
            Practice (Spirited Work).  </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>So one thing that pops out for me if one were to research
            this, maybe one needs to track a few things:</div>
          <div>1.  Level of self authorization?</div>
          <div>2.  Ease of initiating </div>
          <div>3.  Ease of emergence </div>
          <div>4.  Level of group flow state?</div>
          <div>5.  Level of group coherence?</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Another observation: re using "well-established words".
             As an example you gave us "stigmergy", Daniel. Where is
            that "well-established"?  Except in certain academic fields?
             I am a "first follower" Open Spacer (that is literally
            true! Since 1989).  I have no idea what you're talking
            about, i'm sorry to say.  So If you're also interested in
            influencing and involving users of OST, I would encourage no
            professional jargon, if possible. It renders the enterprise
            meaningless to an person for whom OST taps into natural
            human patterns and ways of collaboration. </div>
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          <div>Thanks for this conversation you all!</div>
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          <div>Anne</div>
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            On Nov 29, 2014, at 8:10 PM, via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
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              <span>Today's Topics:</span><br>
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              <span>   1. Re: Summer research project idea: 'self
                organisation'</span><br>
              <span>      (John Baxter via OSList)</span><br>
              <span>   2. Re: Summer research project idea: 'self
                organisation'</span><br>
              <span>      (John Baxter via OSList)</span><br>
              <span>   3. Re: Summer research project idea: 'self
                organisation'</span><br>
              <span>      (John Baxter via OSList)</span><br>
              <span>   4. Re: Summer research project idea: 'self
                organisation'</span><br>
              <span>      (Harrison Owen via OSList)</span><br>
              <span>   5. Re: Summer research project idea: 'self
                organisation'</span><br>
              <span>      (Julie Smith via OSList)</span><br>
              <span>   6. Re: Summer research project idea: 'self
                organisation'</span><br>
              <span>      (Artur Silva via OSList)</span><br>
              <span>   7. Re: Summer research project idea: 'self
                organisation'</span><br>
              <span>      (Artur Silva via OSList)</span><br>
              <span>   8. Re: Summer research project idea: 'self
                organisation'</span><br>
              <span>      (Harrison Owen via OSList)</span><br>
              <span>   9. Dec 9 - Membership Open Space for OSI-US</span><br>
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              <span>Message: 1</span><br>
              <span>Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:18:46 +1030</span><br>
              <span>From: John Baxter via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br>
              <span>To: Daniel Mezick <<a href="mailto:dan@newtechusa.net" target="_blank">dan@newtechusa.net</a>>,
                   World wide Open Space</span><br>
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              <span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea:
                'self</span><br>
              <span>    organisation'</span><br>
              <span>Message-ID:</span><br>
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              <span>Great idea Daniel</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Stigmergy I am familiar with (from Mark et al from
                Collabforge in Melbourne</span><br>
              <span>- did his PhD on stigmergy and collaboration! Public
                book in the works</span><br>
              <span>now), but I know there is much more there.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>The main references to self organisation in the
                sciences I have come across</span><br>
              <span>so far, I have not been able to track down due to
                being out of print and</span><br>
              <span>the like...</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Tracking down such refs and mapping the gems from
                them is exactly the kind</span><br>
              <span>of thing I imagine myself doing over summer.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>I've now saved those links to my reference list : )</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>If anyone can recommend a good primer or iconic text
                in self-org systems</span><br>
              <span>from the sciences (or otherwise) I'd appreciate your
                recommendation.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Cheers</span><br>
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              <span>On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Daniel Mezick via
                OSList <</span><br>
              <span><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
                wrote:</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span> There are many
                  well-established words that are used to more precisely</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>discuss self "organization"
                  in the biological and social sciences. I wonder</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>if actively using some of
                  these well-defined words might be helpful in the</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>discussion.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Example: stigmergy</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=define+stigmergy" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?q=define+stigmergy</a></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>*Stigmergy* is a mechanism
                  of indirect coordination between agents or</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>actions. The principle is
                  that the trace left in the environment by an</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>action stimulates the
                  performance of a next action, by the same or a</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>different agent.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>More details</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/Stigmergy.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/Stigmergy.html</a></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/StigmergyAndSelf.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/StigmergyAndSelf.html</a></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/FourPrinciples.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/FourPrinciples.html</a></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/IntertwinedPrinciples.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/IntertwinedPrinciples.html</a></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>On 11/26/14 8:25 PM, John
                  Baxter via OSList wrote:</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span> Hello facilitators of self
                  organisation</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span> Let's take a moment to
                  consider self organisation, as 'field' or</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>'practice'.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span> I am scoping a summer
                  project at the moment (in the southern</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>hemisphere!).</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span> I have been reading and
                  learning all I can about self org.  There is</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>less than I expected at the
                  heart of self org practice, but much more than</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>I realised in intersecting
                  fields (e.g. in governance, democracy, community</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>organising, management,
                  change, systems...).  There are also unanswered Qs</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>about what 'self org' *is*
                  (indeed, if it is anything at all).</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span> It might be worthwhile
                  formalising this, through a focused research</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>project, and sharing the
                  results in a report or the like.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span> Possible focus questions
                  that come to mind for me are</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>- what does someone need to
                  know to say "I do self organisation"?</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>- what would someone need to
                  know to be an 'expert' in self org?</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span> Would appreciate your
                  perspective, as a practitioner-facilitator-fellow</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>wave rider:</span><br>
              </blockquote>
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              <blockquote type="cite"><span> What (if anything) do you
                  think deserves to be done?</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Who should be involved in
                  doing it?</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span> ?Thank you for contributing
                  to the quest!</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span> *John Baxter*</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>*Cocreation Consultant &
                  ?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator*</span><br>
              </blockquote>
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                  <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>>
                  | <a href="http://CoCreateADL.com" target="_blank">CoCreateADL.com</a></span><br>
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              <blockquote type="cite"><span>0405 447 829</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>? | ?</span><br>
              </blockquote>
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              <blockquote type="cite"><span> *Thank you to everyone who
                  came, helped or spread the good word about</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>City Grill ? ? !*</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>*Summary and links: <a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/" target="_blank">cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/" target="_blank">http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a>>*</span><br>
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              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Manager.</span><br>
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              <span>Message: 2</span><br>
              <span>Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:41:01 +1030</span><br>
              <span>From: John Baxter via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br>
              <span>To: Patricia Haines <<a href="mailto:levelgreen2010@gmail.com" target="_blank">levelgreen2010@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
              <span>Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br>
              <span>    <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br>
              <span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea:
                'self</span><br>
              <span>    organisation'</span><br>
              <span>Message-ID:</span><br>
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              <span>Thanks for the steer Patricia, I will look into self
                advocacy.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>I hope I can produce something by the end of summer
                that would be very</span><br>
              <span>useful for challenges like yours with org
                management!  (And mean me not</span><br>
              <span>writing this all out by hand)</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Some of the loose ends I have collected so far that
                might be relevant</span><br>
              <span>(though they might also be rabbit holes)...</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Some of the general concepts:</span><br>
              <span>- 'agile' management... in fact there is agile or
                lean *everything* these</span><br>
              <span>days... and Kaizen</span><br>
              <span><<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Creating-Kaizen-Culture-Organization-Breakthrough/dp/0071826858/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1385383786&sr=8-1&keywords=jon+miller+kaizen" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Creating-Kaizen-Culture-Organization-Breakthrough/dp/0071826858/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1385383786&sr=8-1&keywords=jon+miller+kaizen</a>>,</span><br>
              <span>and other concepts from software and manufacturing</span><br>
              <span>- 'adaptive' leadership, management and everything
                else</span><br>
              <span>- generative organisation</span><br>
              <span><<a href="http://authenticorganizations.com/harquail/2013/12/11/whats-a-generative-organization/#comment-56686" target="_blank">http://authenticorganizations.com/harquail/2013/12/11/whats-a-generative-organization/#comment-56686</a>></span><br>
              <span>(and</span><br>
              <span>thriveability)</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>More specific models:</span><br>
              <span>- Holocracy governance model (TEDx video of main
                concept</span><br>
              <span><<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR-8AOccyj4&feature=youtube_gdata_player" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR-8AOccyj4&feature=youtube_gdata_player</a>>,</span><br>
              <span>solid review in context of governance practices</span><br>
              <span><<a href="http://enterprise20blog.com/2014/01/09/holacracy-logical-step-evolution-organization/" target="_blank">http://enterprise20blog.com/2014/01/09/holacracy-logical-step-evolution-organization/</a>></span><br>
              <span>)</span><br>
              <span>- Swarmwise</span><br>
              <span><<a href="http://falkvinge.net/2013/02/14/swarmwise-the-tactical-manual-to-changing-the-world-chapter-one/" target="_blank">http://falkvinge.net/2013/02/14/swarmwise-the-tactical-manual-to-changing-the-world-chapter-one/</a>>,</span><br>
              <span>tactical manual for operating a Pirate Party (as per
                Sweden)</span><br>
              <span>- Collective Impact</span><br>
              <span><<a href="http://go.delicious.com/?id=63408X1518852&xs=1&url=http://vibrantcanada.ca/content/making-collective-impact-work&sref=https://delicious.com/jsbaxter/search/collective" target="_blank">http://go.delicious.com/?id=63408X1518852&xs=1&url=http://vibrantcanada.ca/content/making-collective-impact-work&sref=https://delicious.com/jsbaxter/search/collective</a>></span><br>
              <span>(it's not specifically for organisations, but yes it
                is a model for</span><br>
              <span>governance-without-control, this has lots of good
                articles</span><br>
              <span><<a href="http://collectiveimpactaustralia.com/" target="_blank">http://collectiveimpactaustralia.com/</a>>)</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>And relevant for 'how to be a manager'</span><br>
              <span>- Harrison's *Wave Rider* (obviously)</span><br>
              <span>- Peter Block's *Stewardship*</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Interested to hear what references and ideas you
                find most useful Patricia.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Cheers</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>*John Baxter*</span><br>
              <span>*Cocreation Consultant & ?Co?Create Adelaide
                Facilitator*</span><br>
              <span><a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au" target="_blank">jsbaxter.com.au</a> <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>>
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              <span>0405 447 829</span><br>
              <span>? | ?</span><br>
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              <span></span><br>
              <span>*Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread
                the good word about City</span><br>
              <span>Grill!*</span><br>
              <span>*Summary and links: <a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/" target="_blank">cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a></span><br>
              <span><<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/" target="_blank">http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a>>*</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 2:31 AM, Patricia Haines
                <<a href="mailto:levelgreen2010@gmail.com" target="_blank">levelgreen2010@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
              <span>wrote:</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>I like this idea. There's an
                  important movement among and for adults with</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>developmental disabilities
                  called "self advocacy". This is self-organizing</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>on individual, group and
                  organizational levels.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>I'm also interested in how
                  OS and self-organization can play out in</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>non-profit management. I'm
                  reorganizing the Level Green Board, want to</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>operate on OS principles.
                  Any thoughts along such lines?</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Patricia Gooding (aka
                  Haines)</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Level Green Institute:
                  fostering just & sustainable community through</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>education and the arts, in
                  the democratic spirit of the Grundtvigian Folk</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>School</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>On Nov 26, 2014, at 8:25 PM,
                  John Baxter via OSList <</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
                  wrote:</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Hello facilitators of self
                  organisation</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Let's take a moment to
                  consider self organisation, as 'field' or</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>'practice'.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>I am scoping a summer
                  project at the moment (in the southern hemisphere!).</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>I have been reading and
                  learning all I can about self org.  There is less</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>than I expected at the heart
                  of self org practice, but much more than I</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>realised in intersecting
                  fields (e.g. in governance, democracy, community</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>organising, management,
                  change, systems...).  There are also unanswered Qs</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>about what 'self org' *is*
                  (indeed, if it is anything at all).</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>It might be worthwhile
                  formalising this, through a focused research</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>project, and sharing the
                  results in a report or the like.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Possible focus questions
                  that come to mind for me are</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>- what does someone need to
                  know to say "I do self organisation"?</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>- what would someone need to
                  know to be an 'expert' in self org?</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Would appreciate your
                  perspective, as a practitioner-facilitator-fellow</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>wave rider:</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>What (if anything) do you
                  think deserves to be done?</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Who should be involved in
                  doing it?</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>?Thank you for contributing
                  to the quest!</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>*John Baxter*</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>*Cocreation Consultant &
                  ?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator*</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au" target="_blank">jsbaxter.com.au</a>
                  <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>>
                  | <a href="http://CoCreateADL.com" target="_blank">CoCreateADL.com</a></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>0405 447 829</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>? | ?</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>@jsbaxter_ <<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>*Thank you to everyone who
                  came, helped or spread the good word about City</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Grill??!*</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>*Summary and links: <a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/" target="_blank">cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/" target="_blank">http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a>>*</span><br>
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              <span>Message: 3</span><br>
              <span>Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:50:02 +1030</span><br>
              <span>From: John Baxter via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br>
              <span>To: K?ri Gunnarsson <<a href="mailto:kari.gunnarsson@simnet.is" target="_blank">kari.gunnarsson@simnet.is</a>></span><br>
              <span>Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br>
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              <span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea:
                'self</span><br>
              <span>    organisation'</span><br>
              <span>Message-ID:</span><br>
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              <span>Hi Kari</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>We might be thinking more in parallel than aligned.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>I very much doubt I will submit anything to an
                academic journal... I can't</span><br>
              <span>imagine many processes less pleasant!  Though I
                could find parts to spin</span><br>
              <span>off into trade journals and the like.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>But if others are already researching in an aligned
                field (are you</span><br>
              <span>yourself?) I would be very happy to partner or pass
                on anything I produce</span><br>
              <span>for publication.  Could you imagine a situation like
                that?</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>In the context of the rigours and process of
                academic research, my own</span><br>
              <span>thoughts are closer to a literature review than a
                genuine research question.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Cheers</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>*John Baxter*</span><br>
              <span>*Cocreation Consultant & ?Co?Create Adelaide
                Facilitator*</span><br>
              <span><a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au" target="_blank">jsbaxter.com.au</a> <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>>
                | <a href="http://CoCreateADL.com" target="_blank">CoCreateADL.com</a></span><br>
              <span>0405 447 829</span><br>
              <span>? | ?</span><br>
              <span>@jsbaxter_ <<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>*Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread
                the good word about City</span><br>
              <span>Grill!*</span><br>
              <span>*Summary and links: <a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/" target="_blank">cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a></span><br>
              <span><<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/" target="_blank">http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a>>*</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 2:25 AM, K?ri Gunnarsson
                <<a href="mailto:kari.gunnarsson@simnet.is" target="_blank">kari.gunnarsson@simnet.is</a>></span><br>
              <span>wrote:</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi John</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>As an academic researcher I
                  say ... yes, this needs to become, ... I like</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>to see theorizing and
                  testing, and more papers in academic journals for me</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>to site.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>If we take the hypothesis
                  from Owen that there is always self-organization</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>at work, now in what
                  conditions is this self-organization not functioning</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>well.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>I would argue that we can
                  find cultural elements that are toxic to</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>self-organization, site
                  lining it, driving it away from open discourse.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>When is such toxic
                  environment the only solution, even if it dose not
                  work</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>seems to be to get ride of
                  the people dealing behind the curtains and</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>enforcing a strict and
                  over-bloated management scheme to squeezes the</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>profit out of the people.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>An example from ecology.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Like lets say I grow round
                  up resistant GMO feed grass, and I plant out</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>the GMO seeds and put the
                  chemical fertilizers and the roundup to kill of</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>anything else. I have
                  created a toxic environment but there is this one</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>homogenous thing that can
                  survive it.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Now lets say my brother is
                  not as addicted to proprietary DNA crops and</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>has chosen to select many
                  plant to grow in harmony where they feed off each</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>other and reads all these
                  aquaculture journals. He saves a ton in crop</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>interventions and is more
                  resilient to weather changes and pest attacks,</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>loosing only 5% or perhaps
                  10% in a bad incident, while my toxic homogenous</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>growing is devastated while
                  I am ruined.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>ok... fun example.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>If we can identify the
                  cultural elements that makes the space hostile,</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>that is not-safe or simply
                  closed, then we can offer the middle managers a</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>tool to measure there
                  cultural aspect of there organizational health,</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>innovation, learning and
                  efficiency. Then we can propose an intervention</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>(in the form of an open
                  space), on how to move the organization from</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>unhealthy culture to a
                  healthy one where we marginalize the violence of</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>silencing and where we keep
                  the space save for us humans to grow and</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>prosper. As this is needed
                  for all leading organizational cultures.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>...</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>so for the questions...</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>To find what one needs to
                  know to do self-organization, I would argue that</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>one needs to understand how
                  to make the space safe and how to invite</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>participation for a bodily
                  real theme. This is a sponsors job, but he</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>sometimes needs a teacher to
                  help him know the difference. Basically the</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>precondition and the how to
                  stuff we preach as open spacers every day.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>To find out what one needs
                  to know in order to be an expert in</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>self-organization, I would
                  argue that one needs to understand many of the</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>different ways one can throw
                  a spanner in the works and be able to identify</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>when it is the cultural norm
                  of the management and/or owners to do so, and</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>also for what reasons this
                  is done. This is interesting for me as I would</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>love to grow in
                  understanding on when things are wrong in the culture
                  but</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>tolerated for the cases I
                  work with. It could bring out new themes to open</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>space on, and to energize
                  people to open it everywhere where the</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>preconditions are present. I
                  think a little research will help us do just</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>that.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>/ K?ri</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>On 27 November 2014 at
                  01:25, John Baxter via OSList <</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
                  wrote:</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>Hello facilitators of self
                    organisation</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>Let's take a moment to
                    consider self organisation, as 'field' or</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>'practice'.</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>I am scoping a summer
                    project at the moment (in the southern hemisphere!).</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>I have been reading and
                    learning all I can about self org.  There is less</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>than I expected at the
                    heart of self org practice, but much more than I</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>realised in intersecting
                    fields (e.g. in governance, democracy, community</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>organising, management,
                    change, systems...).  There are also unanswered Qs</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>about what 'self org' *is*
                    (indeed, if it is anything at all).</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>It might be worthwhile
                    formalising this, through a focused research</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>project, and sharing the
                    results in a report or the like.</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>Possible focus questions
                    that come to mind for me are</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>- what does someone need
                    to know to say "I do self organisation"?</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>- what would someone need
                    to know to be an 'expert' in self org?</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>Would appreciate your
                    perspective, as a practitioner-facilitator-fellow</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>wave rider:</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>What (if anything) do you
                    think deserves to be done?</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>Who should be involved in
                    doing it?</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>?Thank you for
                    contributing to the quest!</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>*John Baxter*</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>*Cocreation Consultant
                    & ?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator*</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au" target="_blank">jsbaxter.com.au</a>
                    <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>>
                    | <a href="http://CoCreateADL.com" target="_blank">CoCreateADL.com</a></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>0405 447 829</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>? | ?</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>@jsbaxter_ <<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>*Thank you to everyone who
                    came, helped or spread the good word about</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>City Grill??!*</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>*Summary and links: <a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/" target="_blank">cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/" target="_blank">http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a>>*</span><br>
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              <span>Message: 4</span><br>
              <span>Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 10:46:50 -0500</span><br>
              <span>From: Harrison Owen via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br>
              <span>To: "'John Baxter'" <<a href="mailto:john@jsbaxter.com.au" target="_blank">john@jsbaxter.com.au</a>>,
                   "'World wide Open Space</span><br>
              <span>    Technology email list'"    <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br>
              <span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea:
                'self</span><br>
              <span>    organisation'</span><br>
              <span>Message-ID:
                <000001d00beb$b1aa9130$14ffb390$@net></span><br>
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              <span>John ? the literature on self organization is
                massive, and to be honest a number of years have passed
                since I felt myself to be marginally informed. That
                said, there are three books that I found to be most
                helpful, and all ? to the best of my knowledge ? are
                still in print. In historical order they are: ?Order out
                of Chaos,? Ilya Prigogine, ?Chaos,?  James Gleick, and
                ?At home in the Universe? Stuart Kauffmann. I would
                suggest starting with ?Chaos? ? which is the best
                written and pulls together lots of wonderful strands. </span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Harrison</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Winter Address</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>7808 River Falls Drive</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Potomac, MD 20854</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span><a href="tel:301-365-2093" value="+13013652093" target="_blank">301-365-2093</a></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Summer Address</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>189 Beaucaire Ave.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Camden, ME 04843</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span><a href="tel:207-763-3261" value="+12077633261" target="_blank">207-763-3261</a></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Websites</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com" target="_blank">www.openspaceworld.com</a></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span><a href="http://www.ho-image.com" target="_blank">www.ho-image.com</a></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
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              <span></span><br>
              <span>From: OSList [<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>]
                On Behalf Of John Baxter via OSList</span><br>
              <span>Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 10:49 PM</span><br>
              <span>To: Daniel Mezick; World wide Open Space Technology
                email list</span><br>
              <span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea:
                'self organisation'</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Great idea Daniel</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Stigmergy I am familiar with (from Mark et al from
                Collabforge in Melbourne - did his PhD on stigmergy and
                collaboration! Public book in the works now), but I know
                there is much more there.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>The main references to self organisation in the
                sciences I have come across so far, I have not been able
                to track down due to being out of print and the like...</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Tracking down such refs and mapping the gems from
                them is exactly the kind of thing I imagine myself doing
                over summer.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>I've now saved those links to my reference list : )</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>If anyone can recommend a good primer or iconic text
                in self-org systems from the sciences (or otherwise) I'd
                appreciate your recommendation.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Cheers</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>John Baxter</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Cocreation Consultant & ?Co?Create Adelaide
                Facilitator</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span> <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>>
                <a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au" target="_blank">jsbaxter.com.au</a>
                | <a href="http://CoCreateADL.com" target="_blank">CoCreateADL.com</a></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>0405 447 829</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>? | ?</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>@ <<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>>
                jsbaxter_</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the
                good word about City Grill!</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Summary and links: <a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/" target="_blank">cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Daniel Mezick via
                OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
                wrote:</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>There are many well-established words that are used
                to more precisely discuss self "organization" in the
                biological and social sciences. I wonder if actively
                using some of these well-defined words might be helpful
                in the discussion.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Example: stigmergy</span><br>
              <span><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=define+stigmergy" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?q=define+stigmergy</a></span><br>
              <span>Stigmergy is a mechanism of indirect coordination
                between agents or actions. The principle is that the
                trace left in the environment by an action stimulates
                the performance of a next action, by the same or a
                different agent.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>More details</span><br>
              <span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/Stigmergy.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/Stigmergy.html</a></span><br>
              <span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/StigmergyAndSelf.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/StigmergyAndSelf.html</a></span><br>
              <span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/FourPrinciples.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/FourPrinciples.html</a></span><br>
              <span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/IntertwinedPrinciples.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/IntertwinedPrinciples.html</a></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Daniel</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>On 11/26/14 8:25 PM, John Baxter via OSList wrote:</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Hello facilitators of self organisation</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Let's take a moment to consider self organisation,
                as 'field' or 'practice'.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>I am scoping a summer project at the moment (in the
                southern hemisphere!).</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>I have been reading and learning all I can about
                self org.  There is less than I expected at the heart of
                self org practice, but much more than I realised in
                intersecting fields (e.g. in governance, democracy,
                community organising, management, change, systems...).
                 There are also unanswered Qs about what 'self org' is
                (indeed, if it is anything at all).</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>It might be worthwhile formalising this, through a
                focused research project, and sharing the results in a
                report or the like.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Possible focus questions that come to mind for me
                are</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>- what does someone need to know to say "I do self
                organisation"?</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>- what would someone need to know to be an 'expert'
                in self org?</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Would appreciate your perspective, as a
                practitioner-facilitator-fellow wave rider:</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>What (if anything) do you think deserves to be done?</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Who should be involved in doing it?</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>?Thank you for contributing to the quest!</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>John Baxter</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Cocreation Consultant & ?Co?Create Adelaide
                Facilitator</span><br>
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              <span>Message: 5</span><br>
              <span>Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 09:17:52 -0900</span><br>
              <span>From: Julie Smith via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br>
              <span>To: Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>>,
                   World wide Open Space</span><br>
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              <span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea:
                'self</span><br>
              <span>    organisation'</span><br>
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              <span>Dear all ~</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>In Not-Two Is Peace Adi Da sometimes lists
                self-organizing with self-rightening and self-correcting
                in a way that infers these are complementary concepts.
                 I wonder if in some ways these terms are
                interchangeable.  I?m thinking about this question
                because I recently noticed this statement about the
                relationship between systems and self-correction:</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>?Systems self-correct, but when you bypass the
                system, as is now the case globally, then the system
                cannot correct itself anymore.  It is just careening
                downhill with a stave shoved in the wheels.  It is
                inevitable that it is going to self-destruct.?</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>The context for this comment is an essay on
                rightening the current global instability, but perhaps
                there is something in the essay that may move the more
                general conversation about self-organization forward.
                 This is a brief essay, so I?ll share it in its entirety
                here for anyone who might be interested:</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>On Establishing Rules of Participation For A Global
                Cooperative Order</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>6.1  Presently, the international community has no
                effective way of dealing with geopolitical issues,
                because it is fundamentally about ?tribes? in
                competition with one another.  There is no force that
                embodies everybody and that, therefore, can effectively
                deal with the system as a whole.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>6.2  Bits of the system are always confronting one
                another.  Therefore, those who hold out or want to ?play
                it hard? wind up controlling the whole system.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>6.3  In general, the so-called ?big powers? are
                bypassing rules and playing for dominance.  But
                everybody is playing their part in the ?tribal?
                struggle-game, which is not in the interest of
                humankind, and it is not survivable.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>6.4  Rules and accountability are essential for any
                system.  Any notion that you can bypass such
                accountability is a lie in the name of serving some kind
                of ?self?-interest.  And this disposition is creating
                every crisis.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>6.5  Systems self-correct, but when you bypass the
                system, as is now the case globally, then the system
                cannot correct itself anymore.  It is just careening
                downhill with a stave shoved in the wheels.  It is
                inevitable that it is going to self-destruct.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>6.6  Therefore, the international power-struggles
                have to be replaced by a systems-based order with rules
                and limits established.  It is only when the system can
                represent itself as a totality and keep its rules in
                front of everyone that the system can correct itself.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>6.7  A rational and positive global situation
                requires rules for participation, based on global
                interdependence and prior unity?rather than being based
                on nation-states or other groups engaging in reactive
                measures in the face of being provoked or (otherwise)
                acting aggressively to extend their influence.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>6.8  The process for dealing with global realities
                should not be merely punitive.  Rules for participation
                should be established?and then doors would be either
                opened or closed, based on whether any given
                nation-state or other entity abides by those rules.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>6.9  Participation should be the one thing everybody
                values?not competition, not dominance and victory over
                all, but participation in a global system that allows
                every nation-state, every human domain, to survive and
                enjoy essential well-being and the growth potential and
                benefits of participation in the whole.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>6.10  The rules of participation in the global
                community should not be arbitrary, or set up to favor
                certain parties over others.  The rules of participation
                should establish positive and equal participation for
                everyone, with no double standards that require some to
                obey the rules while others do not.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>6.11  The Global Cooperative Forum is the system of
                everybody-all-at-once reasserting itself and
                establishing rules of participation that put all matters
                of global business equitably on the table?including
                matters of severe chronic conflict, competition for
                resources, degradation of the environment and disruption
                of weather-patterns, poverty, disease, and so forth.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>6.12  Right rules of participation will establish an
                entirely different principle than nation-state
                competitiveness.  It will allow humankind as a whole to
                become a functioning system?a system to which all
                parties get access by fulfilling certain obligations and
                responsibilities, which apply everywhere.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>The full text of Not-Two Is Peace is available
                through bookstores, via Kindle download, or at <a href="http://www.da-peace.org" target="_blank">http://www.da-peace.org</a>
                <<a href="http://www.da-peace.org/" target="_blank">http://www.da-peace.org/</a>>.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>All best wishes ~</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Julie</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>On Nov 29, 2014, at 6:46 AM,
                  Harrison Owen via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
                  wrote:</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>John ? the literature on
                  self organization is massive, and to be honest a
                  number of years have passed since I felt myself to be
                  marginally informed. That said, there are three books
                  that I found to be most helpful, and all ? to the best
                  of my knowledge ? are still in print. In historical
                  order they are: ?Order out of Chaos,? Ilya Prigogine,
                  ?Chaos,?  James Gleick, and ?At home in the Universe?
                  Stuart Kauffmann. I would suggest starting with
                  ?Chaos? ? which is the best written and pulls together
                  lots of wonderful strands. </span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Harrison</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Winter Address</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>7808 River Falls Drive</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Potomac, MD 20854</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="tel:301-365-2093" value="+13013652093" target="_blank">301-365-2093</a></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Summer Address</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>189 Beaucaire Ave.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Camden, ME 04843</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="tel:207-763-3261" value="+12077633261" target="_blank">207-763-3261</a></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Websites</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com" target="_blank">www.openspaceworld.com</a>
                  <x-msg://2/%<a href="http://20www.openspaceworld.com" target="_blank">20www.openspaceworld.com</a>></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.ho-image.com" target="_blank">www.ho-image.com</a>
                  <x-msg://2/<a href="http://www.ho-image.com" target="_blank">www.ho-image.com</a>></span><br>
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              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
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              <blockquote type="cite"><span>From: OSList [<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>]
                  On Behalf Of John Baxter via OSList</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Friday, November 28,
                  2014 10:49 PM</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>To: Daniel Mezick; World
                  wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Summer
                  research project idea: 'self organisation'</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Great idea Daniel</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Stigmergy I am familiar with
                  (from Mark et al from Collabforge in Melbourne - did
                  his PhD on stigmergy and collaboration! Public book in
                  the works now), but I know there is much more there.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>The main references to self
                  organisation in the sciences I have come across so
                  far, I have not been able to track down due to being
                  out of print and the like...</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Tracking down such refs and
                  mapping the gems from them is exactly the kind of
                  thing I imagine myself doing over summer.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>I've now saved those links
                  to my reference list : )</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>If anyone can recommend a
                  good primer or iconic text in self-org systems from
                  the sciences (or otherwise) I'd appreciate your
                  recommendation.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Cheers</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>John Baxter</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Cocreation Consultant &
                  ?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator</span><br>
              </blockquote>
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              <blockquote type="cite"><span>? | ?</span><br>
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              <blockquote type="cite"><span>@jsbaxter_ <<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
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              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Thank you to everyone who
                  came, helped or spread the good word about City Grill!</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Summary and links: <a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/" target="_blank">cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a>
                  <<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/" target="_blank">http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a>></span><br>
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              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at
                  10:50 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>
                  <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>>
                  wrote:</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>There are many
                  well-established words that are used to more precisely
                  discuss self "organization" in the biological and
                  social sciences. I wonder if actively using some of
                  these well-defined words might be helpful in the
                  discussion.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Example: stigmergy</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=define+stigmergy" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?q=define+stigmergy</a>
                  <<a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=define+stigmergy" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?q=define+stigmergy</a>></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Stigmergy is a mechanism of
                  indirect coordination between agents or actions. The
                  principle is that the trace left in the environment by
                  an action stimulates the performance of a next action,
                  by the same or a different agent.</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>More details</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/Stigmergy.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/Stigmergy.html</a>
                  <<a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/Stigmergy.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/Stigmergy.html</a>></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/StigmergyAndSelf.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/StigmergyAndSelf.html</a>
                  <<a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/StigmergyAndSelf.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/StigmergyAndSelf.html</a>></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/FourPrinciples.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/FourPrinciples.html</a>
                  <<a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/FourPrinciples.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/FourPrinciples.html</a>></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/IntertwinedPrinciples.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/IntertwinedPrinciples.html</a>
                  <<a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/IntertwinedPrinciples.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/IntertwinedPrinciples.html</a>></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><span>On 11/26/14 8:25 PM, John
                  Baxter via OSList wrote:</span><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>Hello facilitators of self
                    organisation</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>Let's take a moment to
                    consider self organisation, as 'field' or
                    'practice'.</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>I am scoping a summer
                    project at the moment (in the southern hemisphere!).</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>I have been reading and
                    learning all I can about self org.  There is less
                    than I expected at the heart of self org practice,
                    but much more than I realised in intersecting fields
                    (e.g. in governance, democracy, community
                    organising, management, change, systems...).  There
                    are also unanswered Qs about what 'self org' is
                    (indeed, if it is anything at all).</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>It might be worthwhile
                    formalising this, through a focused research
                    project, and sharing the results in a report or the
                    like.</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>Possible focus questions
                    that come to mind for me are</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>- what does someone need
                    to know to say "I do self organisation"?</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>- what would someone need
                    to know to be an 'expert' in self org?</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>Would appreciate your
                    perspective, as a practitioner-facilitator-fellow
                    wave rider:</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>What (if anything) do you
                    think deserves to be done?</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>Who should be involved in
                    doing it?</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>?Thank you for
                    contributing to the quest!</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>John Baxter</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>Cocreation Consultant
                    & ?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au" target="_blank">jsbaxter.com.au</a>
                    <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>>
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                    <<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/" target="_blank">http://cocreateadl.com/</a>></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>0405 447 829</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>? | ?</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>@jsbaxter_ <<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>></span><br>
                </blockquote>
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              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>Thank you to everyone who
                    came, helped or spread the good word about City
                    Grill </span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>? ?</span><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>!</span><br>
                </blockquote>
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              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>Summary and links: <a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/" target="_blank">cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a>
                    <<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/" target="_blank">http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a>></span><br>
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                <blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br>
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              <blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel Mezick, President</span><br>
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              <span>Message: 6</span><br>
              <span>Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 18:32:17 +0000 (UTC)</span><br>
              <span>From: Artur Silva via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br>
              <span>To: Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>>,
                'John Baxter'</span><br>
              <span>    <<a href="mailto:john@jsbaxter.com.au" target="_blank">john@jsbaxter.com.au</a>>,
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              <span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea:
                'self</span><br>
              <span>    organisation'</span><br>
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              <span>Hi people out there,</span><br>
              <span>I wouldalso recommend ?Order out of Chaos,? from
                Prigogine and Stengers and, also fromthe same authors: "
                "The New Alliance: Metamorphosis of Science". (Idon't
                know if there is an English translation: as I only find
                it in French,Spanish and Italian...). They are both
                written by a Physicist and an Anthropologist,but are
                written for the lay person.?</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>?</span><br>
              <span>And,yes, ?At home in the Universe? by Kauffmann ?is
                a must,even if more complex.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>?</span><br>
              <span>I have manydoubts about Gleick's book on "Chaos", as
                there is not even a single reference to Prigogine. He is
                not even mentioned in the entire book. Itis like writing
                about "The Evolution of the Species" withoutreferring
                Darwin... ?</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>?</span><br>
              <span>Regards</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>?</span><br>
              <span>Artur</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>      From: Harrison Owen via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br>
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              <span> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:46 PM</span><br>
              <span> Subject: Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea:
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                the literature on self organization is massive, and to
                be honest a number of years have passed since I felt
                myself to be marginally informed. That said, there are
                three books that I found to be most helpful, and all ?
                to the best of my knowledge ? are still in print. In
                historical order they are: ?Order out of Chaos,? Ilya
                Prigogine, ?Chaos,? ?James Gleick, and ?At home in the
                Universe? Stuart Kauffmann. I would suggest starting
                with ?Chaos? ? which is the best written and pulls
                together lots of wonderful strands.  ?Harrison ?Winter
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              <span>From: OSList [<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>]
                On Behalf Of John Baxter via OSList</span><br>
              <span>Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 10:49 PM</span><br>
              <span>To: Daniel Mezick; World wide Open Space Technology
                email list</span><br>
              <span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea:
                'self organisation' ?Great idea Daniel ?Stigmergy I am
                familiar with (from Mark et al from Collabforge in
                Melbourne - did his PhD on stigmergy and collaboration!
                Public book in the works now), but I know there is much
                more there. ?The main references to self organisation in
                the sciences I have come across so far, I have not been
                able to track down due to being out of print and the
                like... ?Tracking down such refs and mapping the gems
                from them is exactly the kind of thing I imagine myself
                doing over summer. ?I've now saved those links to my
                reference list : ) ?If anyone can recommend a good
                primer or iconic text in self-org systems from the
                sciences (or otherwise) I'd appreciate your
                recommendation. ?Cheers</span><br>
              <span> ?John BaxterCocreation Consultant & ?Co?Create
                Adelaide <a href="http://Facilitatorjsbaxter.com.au" target="_blank">Facilitatorjsbaxter.com.au</a>?|
                CoCreateADL.com0405 447 829? | ?@jsbaxter_ ?Thank you to
                everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about
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                ? ?On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Daniel Mezick via
                OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
                wrote:There are many well-established words that are
                used to more precisely discuss self "organization" in
                the biological and social sciences. I wonder if actively
                using some of these well-defined words might be helpful
                in the discussion.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Example: stigmergy</span><br>
              <span><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=define+stigmergy" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?q=define+stigmergy</a></span><br>
              <span>Stigmergy is a mechanism of indirect coordination
                between agents or actions. The principle is that the
                trace left in the environment by an action stimulates
                the performance of a next action, by the same or a
                different agent.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>More details</span><br>
              <span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/Stigmergy.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/Stigmergy.html</a></span><br>
              <span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/StigmergyAndSelf.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/StigmergyAndSelf.html</a></span><br>
              <span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/FourPrinciples.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/FourPrinciples.html</a></span><br>
              <span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/IntertwinedPrinciples.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/IntertwinedPrinciples.html</a></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Daniel</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>On 11/26/14 8:25 PM, John Baxter via OSList wrote:</span><br>
              <span>Hello facilitators of self organisation ?Let's take
                a moment to consider self organisation, as 'field' or
                'practice'. ?I am scoping a summer project at the moment
                (in the southern hemisphere!). ?I have been reading and
                learning all I can about self org.? There is less than I
                expected at the heart of self org practice, but much
                more than I realised in intersecting fields (e.g. in
                governance, democracy, community organising, management,
                change, systems...).? There are also unanswered Qs about
                what 'self org' is?(indeed, if it is anything at all).
                ?It might be worthwhile formalising this, through a
                focused research project, and sharing the results in a
                report or the like. ?Possible focus questions that come
                to mind for me are- what does someone need to know to
                say "I do self organisation"?- what would someone need
                to know to be an 'expert' in self org? ?Would appreciate
                your perspective, as a practitioner-facilitator-fellow
                wave rider: ?What (if anything) do you think deserves t</span><br>
              <span> o be done?Who should be involved in doing it?
                ??Thank you for contributing to the quest! ?John
                BaxterCocreation Consultant & ?Co?Create Adelaide <a href="http://Facilitatorjsbaxter.com.au" target="_blank">Facilitatorjsbaxter.com.au</a>?|
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              <span>Message: 7</span><br>
              <span>Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 18:32:17 +0000 (UTC)</span><br>
              <span>From: Artur Silva via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br>
              <span>To: Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>>,
                'John Baxter'</span><br>
              <span>    <<a href="mailto:john@jsbaxter.com.au" target="_blank">john@jsbaxter.com.au</a>>,
                   'World wide Open Space Technology email list'</span><br>
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              <span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea:
                'self</span><br>
              <span>    organisation'</span><br>
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              <span>Hi people out there,</span><br>
              <span>I wouldalso recommend ?Order out of Chaos,? from
                Prigogine and Stengers and, also fromthe same authors: "
                "The New Alliance: Metamorphosis of Science". (Idon't
                know if there is an English translation: as I only find
                it in French,Spanish and Italian...). They are both
                written by a Physicist and an Anthropologist,but are
                written for the lay person.?</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>?</span><br>
              <span>And,yes, ?At home in the Universe? by Kauffmann ?is
                a must,even if more complex.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>?</span><br>
              <span>I have manydoubts about Gleick's book on "Chaos", as
                there is not even a single reference to Prigogine. He is
                not even mentioned in the entire book. Itis like writing
                about "The Evolution of the Species" withoutreferring
                Darwin... ?</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>?</span><br>
              <span>Regards</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>?</span><br>
              <span>Artur</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>      From: Harrison Owen via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br>
              <span> To: 'John Baxter' <<a href="mailto:john@jsbaxter.com.au" target="_blank">john@jsbaxter.com.au</a>>;
                'World wide Open Space Technology email list' <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
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              <span> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:46 PM</span><br>
              <span> Subject: Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea:
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                the literature on self organization is massive, and to
                be honest a number of years have passed since I felt
                myself to be marginally informed. That said, there are
                three books that I found to be most helpful, and all ?
                to the best of my knowledge ? are still in print. In
                historical order they are: ?Order out of Chaos,? Ilya
                Prigogine, ?Chaos,? ?James Gleick, and ?At home in the
                Universe? Stuart Kauffmann. I would suggest starting
                with ?Chaos? ? which is the best written and pulls
                together lots of wonderful strands.  ?Harrison ?Winter
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              <span>From: OSList [<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>]
                On Behalf Of John Baxter via OSList</span><br>
              <span>Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 10:49 PM</span><br>
              <span>To: Daniel Mezick; World wide Open Space Technology
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              <span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea:
                'self organisation' ?Great idea Daniel ?Stigmergy I am
                familiar with (from Mark et al from Collabforge in
                Melbourne - did his PhD on stigmergy and collaboration!
                Public book in the works now), but I know there is much
                more there. ?The main references to self organisation in
                the sciences I have come across so far, I have not been
                able to track down due to being out of print and the
                like... ?Tracking down such refs and mapping the gems
                from them is exactly the kind of thing I imagine myself
                doing over summer. ?I've now saved those links to my
                reference list : ) ?If anyone can recommend a good
                primer or iconic text in self-org systems from the
                sciences (or otherwise) I'd appreciate your
                recommendation. ?Cheers</span><br>
              <span> ?John BaxterCocreation Consultant & ?Co?Create
                Adelaide <a href="http://Facilitatorjsbaxter.com.au" target="_blank">Facilitatorjsbaxter.com.au</a>?|
                CoCreateADL.com0405 447 829? | ?@jsbaxter_ ?Thank you to
                everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about
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                ? ?On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Daniel Mezick via
                OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
                wrote:There are many well-established words that are
                used to more precisely discuss self "organization" in
                the biological and social sciences. I wonder if actively
                using some of these well-defined words might be helpful
                in the discussion.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Example: stigmergy</span><br>
              <span><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=define+stigmergy" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?q=define+stigmergy</a></span><br>
              <span>Stigmergy is a mechanism of indirect coordination
                between agents or actions. The principle is that the
                trace left in the environment by an action stimulates
                the performance of a next action, by the same or a
                different agent.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>More details</span><br>
              <span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/Stigmergy.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/Stigmergy.html</a></span><br>
              <span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/StigmergyAndSelf.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/StigmergyAndSelf.html</a></span><br>
              <span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/FourPrinciples.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/FourPrinciples.html</a></span><br>
              <span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/IntertwinedPrinciples.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/IntertwinedPrinciples.html</a></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Daniel</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>On 11/26/14 8:25 PM, John Baxter via OSList wrote:</span><br>
              <span>Hello facilitators of self organisation ?Let's take
                a moment to consider self organisation, as 'field' or
                'practice'. ?I am scoping a summer project at the moment
                (in the southern hemisphere!). ?I have been reading and
                learning all I can about self org.? There is less than I
                expected at the heart of self org practice, but much
                more than I realised in intersecting fields (e.g. in
                governance, democracy, community organising, management,
                change, systems...).? There are also unanswered Qs about
                what 'self org' is?(indeed, if it is anything at all).
                ?It might be worthwhile formalising this, through a
                focused research project, and sharing the results in a
                report or the like. ?Possible focus questions that come
                to mind for me are- what does someone need to know to
                say "I do self organisation"?- what would someone need
                to know to be an 'expert' in self org? ?Would appreciate
                your perspective, as a practitioner-facilitator-fellow
                wave rider: ?What (if anything) do you think deserves t</span><br>
              <span> o be done?Who should be involved in doing it?
                ??Thank you for contributing to the quest! ?John
                BaxterCocreation Consultant & ?Co?Create Adelaide <a href="http://Facilitatorjsbaxter.com.au" target="_blank">Facilitatorjsbaxter.com.au</a>?|
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              <span>Message: 8</span><br>
              <span>Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:24:26 -0500</span><br>
              <span>From: Harrison Owen via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br>
              <span>To: "'Artur Silva'" <<a href="mailto:arturfsilva@yahoo.com" target="_blank">arturfsilva@yahoo.com</a>>,
                   "'World wide Open Space</span><br>
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              <span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea:
                'self</span><br>
              <span>    organisation'</span><br>
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              <span>Artur ... no doubt Gleick missed a beat ... to say
                nothing of one of the most critical players in the
                emerging understanding of Self Organization. That said,
                James is a marvelous writer, and the stories he does
                tell are (I think) superbly done. As it happens, I was
                personally connected to one or two of them, and his
                descriptions and my experience correlate highly. So I
                would say read him for what he wrote, and forgive the
                rest.</span><br>
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                On Behalf Of Artur Silva via OSList</span><br>
              <span>Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:32 PM</span><br>
              <span>To: Harrison Owen; 'John Baxter'; 'World wide Open
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              <span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea:
                'self organisation'</span><br>
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              <span></span><br>
              <span>Hi people out there,</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>I would also recommend ?Order out of Chaos,? from
                Prigogine and Stengers and, also from the same authors:
                " "The New Alliance: Metamorphosis of Science". (I don't
                know if there is an English translation: as I only find
                it in French, Spanish and Italian...). They are both
                written by a Physicist and an Anthropologist, but are
                written for the lay person. </span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>And, yes, ?At home in the Universe? by Kauffmann  is
                a must, even if more complex.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>I have many doubts about Gleick's book on "Chaos",
                as there is not even a single reference to Prigogine. He
                is not even mentioned in the entire book. It is like
                writing about "The Evolution of the Species" without
                referring Darwin...  </span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Regards</span><br>
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              <span>Artur</span><br>
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              <span>From: Harrison Owen via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br>
              <span>To: 'John Baxter' <<a href="mailto:john@jsbaxter.com.au" target="_blank">john@jsbaxter.com.au</a>>;
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              <span>Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:46 PM</span><br>
              <span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea:
                'self organisation'</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
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              <span></span><br>
              <span>John ? the literature on self organization is
                massive, and to be honest a number of years have passed
                since I felt myself to be marginally informed. That
                said, there are three books that I found to be most
                helpful, and all ? to the best of my knowledge ? are
                still in print. In historical order they are: ?Order out
                of Chaos,? Ilya Prigogine, ?Chaos,?  James Gleick, and
                ?At home in the Universe? Stuart Kauffmann. I would
                suggest starting with ?Chaos? ? which is the best
                written and pulls together lots of wonderful strands. </span><br>
              <span></span><br>
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              <span>Harrison</span><br>
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              <span>Winter Address</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>7808 River Falls Drive</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Potomac, MD 20854</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>301-365-2093</span><br>
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              <span>Camden, ME 04843</span><br>
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                On Behalf Of John Baxter via OSList</span><br>
              <span>Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 10:49 PM</span><br>
              <span>To: Daniel Mezick; World wide Open Space Technology
                email list</span><br>
              <span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea:
                'self organisation'</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
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              <span>Great idea Daniel</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Stigmergy I am familiar with (from Mark et al from
                Collabforge in Melbourne - did his PhD on stigmergy and
                collaboration! Public book in the works now), but I know
                there is much more there.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>The main references to self organisation in the
                sciences I have come across so far, I have not been able
                to track down due to being out of print and the like...</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Tracking down such refs and mapping the gems from
                them is exactly the kind of thing I imagine myself doing
                over summer.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>I've now saved those links to my reference list : )</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>If anyone can recommend a good primer or iconic text
                in self-org systems from the sciences (or otherwise) I'd
                appreciate your recommendation.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Cheers</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
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              <span>John Baxter</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Cocreation Consultant & ?Co?Create Adelaide
                Facilitator</span><br>
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              <span>Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the
                good word about City Grill!</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Summary and links: <a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/" target="_blank">cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a></span><br>
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              <span>On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Daniel Mezick via
                OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
                wrote:</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>There are many well-established words that are used
                to more precisely discuss self "organization" in the
                biological and social sciences. I wonder if actively
                using some of these well-defined words might be helpful
                in the discussion.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Example: stigmergy</span><br>
              <span><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=define+stigmergy" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?q=define+stigmergy</a></span><br>
              <span>Stigmergy is a mechanism of indirect coordination
                between agents or actions. The principle is that the
                trace left in the environment by an action stimulates
                the performance of a next action, by the same or a
                different agent.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>More details</span><br>
              <span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/Stigmergy.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/Stigmergy.html</a></span><br>
              <span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/StigmergyAndSelf.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/StigmergyAndSelf.html</a></span><br>
              <span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/FourPrinciples.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/FourPrinciples.html</a></span><br>
              <span><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/IntertwinedPrinciples.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/IntertwinedPrinciples.html</a></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Daniel</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>On 11/26/14 8:25 PM, John Baxter via OSList wrote:</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Hello facilitators of self organisation</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Let's take a moment to consider self organisation,
                as 'field' or 'practice'.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>I am scoping a summer project at the moment (in the
                southern hemisphere!).</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>I have been reading and learning all I can about
                self org.  There is less than I expected at the heart of
                self org practice, but much more than I realised in
                intersecting fields (e.g. in governance, democracy,
                community organising, management, change, systems...).
                 There are also unanswered Qs about what 'self org' is
                (indeed, if it is anything at all).</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>It might be worthwhile formalising this, through a
                focused research project, and sharing the results in a
                report or the like.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Possible focus questions that come to mind for me
                are</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>- what does someone need to know to say "I do self
                organisation"?</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>- what would someone need to know to be an 'expert'
                in self org?</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Would appreciate your perspective, as a
                practitioner-facilitator-fellow wave rider:</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>What (if anything) do you think deserves to be done?</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Who should be involved in doing it?</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>?Thank you for contributing to the quest!</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>John Baxter</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>Cocreation Consultant & ?Co?Create Adelaide
                Facilitator</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span> <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>>
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              <span>? | ?</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>@jsbaxter_ <<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>>
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              <span>Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the
                good word about City Grill </span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>? ?</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>!</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
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              <span>Message: 9</span><br>
              <span>Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 15:21:18 -0700</span><br>
              <span>From: "Open Space Institute U.S. via OSList"</span><br>
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              <span>Subject: [OSList] Dec 9 - Membership Open Space for
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              <span>OPEN SPACE INSTITUTE - U.S. - MEMBERSHIP OPEN SPACE
                INVITATION</span><br>
              <span>TUESDAY 9 DECEMBER 2014</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>What is Open Space Technology to you? Where is OST
                going? How do we grow </span><br>
              <span>in life & improve our world through practicing
                OST?</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>The Open Space Institute of the U.S. invites all
                OSList members to our </span><br>
              <span>Annual Membership Open Space.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>We're very excited to welcome non-members as well as
                members, and we </span><br>
              <span>especially welcome people from outside the US who
                might want to attend.</span><br>
              <span></span><br>
              <span>The meeting will be from 9am-11am Pacific Standard
                Time (-0800 GMT), </span><br>
              <span>Tuesday December 9, 2014.</span><br>
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              <span>We'll hold it in Open Space format, with the opening
                circle from </span><br>
              <span>9-9:30am, mini breakouts 9:30-10am, and 10-10:30am,
                with a closing </span><br>
              <span>circle 10:30-11am.</span><br>
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              <span>We'll be holding it using a teleconference system
                (MaestroConference's </span><br>
              <span>Social Webinar) which makes breakout sessions that
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              <span>Feet. Thank you Maestro Conference!</span><br>
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