<div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:14px"><div style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt" class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_9539">Hi people out there,</div><div style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt" class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_9539"><br></div><div style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt" class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_9539">I would
also recommend “Order out of Chaos,” from Prigogine and Stengers and, also from
the same authors: " "<span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6176" class="" style=""><span style="color:#333333" class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_9540">The New Alliance: Metamorphosis of Science". (I
don't know if there is an English translation: as I only find it in French,
Spanish and Italian...). They are both written by a Physicist and an Anthropologist,
but are written for the lay person. </span></span><o:p class="" style=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5830" class=""><o:p class="" style=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5830" class=""><span style="color:#333333" class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_9541">And,
yes, “</span>At home in the Universe” by Kauffmann <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6190" class="" style=""><span style="color:#333333" class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_9544">is a must,
even if more complex.</span></span><o:p class="" style=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5830" class=""><o:p class="" style=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5830" class=""><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6188" class="" style=""><span style="color:#333333" class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_9542">I have many
doubts about Gleick's book on "Chaos", as there is not even a single reference to Prigogine. He is not even mentioned in the entire book. It
is like writing about "The Evolution of the Species" without
referring Darwin... </span></span><o:p class="" style=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5830" class=""><o:p class="" style=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5830" class=""><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6040" class="" style="">Regards<o:p class="" style=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5830" class=""><o:p class="" style=""> </o:p></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5830">
</div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5830" class="">Artur<o:p class="" style=""></o:p></div><br> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 14px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5684"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5683"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5829"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6036"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5828"> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6170"><span style="font-weight:bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6169">From:</span></b> Harrison Owen via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org><br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6173"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6172">To:</span></b> 'John Baxter' <john@jsbaxter.com.au>; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:46 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea: 'self organisation'<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5682"><br><div id="yiv2489568878"><style>#yiv2489568878 #yiv2489568878 --
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I would suggest starting with “Chaos” – which is the best written and pulls together lots of wonderful strands. </span></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5817"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5816"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Harrison</span></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5815"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5679"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Winter Address</span></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5685"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5807">7808 River Falls Drive</span></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5806"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5805">Potomac, MD 20854</span></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5804"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5803">301-365-2093</span></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5802"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5801"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5800">Summer Address</span></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5798"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5799">189 Beaucaire Ave.</span></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5796"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5797">Camden, ME 04843</span></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5784"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5785">207-763-3261</span></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5783"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5786"> </span></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5782"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5795">Websites</span></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5781"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href=""> www.openspaceworld.com</a></span></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5711"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">www.ho-image.com</a></span></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5779"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">OSLIST </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5780">To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5814">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"></span></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5778"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv2489568878yqt8164464971" id="yiv2489568878yqt22825"><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5714"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5713"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5809"> OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5808">On Behalf Of </b>John Baxter via OSList<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 28, 2014 10:49 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Daniel Mezick; World wide Open Space Technology email list<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea: 'self organisation'</span></div></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5810"> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5718"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5812"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5811"><span style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6129">Great idea Daniel</span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6042"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6041"><span style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6130"> </span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5717"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5716"><span style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5715">Stigmergy I am familiar with (from Mark et al from Collabforge in Melbourne - did his PhD on stigmergy and collaboration! Public book in the works now), but I know there is much more there.</span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6044"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6043"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6047"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6046"><span style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6045">The main references to self organisation in the sciences I have come across so far, I have not been able to track down due to being out of print and the like...</span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5720"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5719"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5723"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5722"><span style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5721">Tracking down such refs and mapping the gems from them is exactly the kind of thing I imagine myself doing over summer.</span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5725"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5724"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5727"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5726"><span style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6048">I've now saved those links to my reference list : )</span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5729"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5728"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5732"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5731"><span style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5730">If anyone can recommend a good primer or iconic text in self-org systems from the sciences (or otherwise) I'd appreciate your recommendation.</span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5734"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5733"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5736"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5735"><span style="">Cheers</span></div></div></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5738"><div class="yiv2489568878yqt8164464971" id="yiv2489568878yqt52499"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5737"><br clear="all"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5752"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5751"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5750"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5749"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5748"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5747"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5746"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5745"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5744"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5743"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5742"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5741"><div 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href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/">cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a></span></i><span style=""></span></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5764"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5763">On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5766"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5765">There are many well-established words that are used to more precisely discuss self "organization" in the biological and social sciences. I wonder if actively using some of these well-defined words might be helpful in the discussion.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Example: stigmergy<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.google.com/search?q=define+stigmergy">https://www.google.com/search?q=define+stigmergy</a><br clear="none"><b>Stigmergy</b> is a mechanism of indirect coordination between agents or actions. The principle is that the trace left in the environment by an action stimulates the performance of a next action, by the same or a different agent.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">More details<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/Stigmergy.html">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/Stigmergy.html</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/StigmergyAndSelf.html">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/StigmergyAndSelf.html</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/FourPrinciples.html">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/FourPrinciples.html</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/IntertwinedPrinciples.html">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/IntertwinedPrinciples.html</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Daniel</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5769"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5768"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5767"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5771"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5770">On 11/26/14 8:25 PM, John Baxter via OSList wrote:</div></div></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5777"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5776"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5775"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5774"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5773"><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5772"><span style="">Hello facilitators of self organisation</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><span style="">Let's take a moment to consider self organisation, as 'field' or 'practice'.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><span style="">I am scoping a summer project at the moment (in the southern hemisphere!).</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><span style="">I have been reading and learning all I can about self org. There is less than I expected at the heart of self org practice, but much more than I realised in intersecting fields (e.g. in governance, democracy, community organising, management, change, systems...). There are also unanswered Qs about what 'self org' <i>is</i> (indeed, if it is anything at all).</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><span style="">It might be worthwhile formalising this, through a focused research project, and sharing the results in a report or the like.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><span style="">Possible focus questions that come to mind for me are</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><span style="">- what does someone need to know to say "I do self organisation"?</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><span style="">- what would someone need to know to be an 'expert' in self org?</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><span style="">Would appreciate your perspective, as a practitioner-facilitator-fellow wave rider:</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><span style="">What (if anything) do you think deserves to be done?</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><span style="">Who should be involved in doing it?</span></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal">Thank you for contributing to the quest!</div></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"> </div><div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="">John Baxter</span></i></b><span style=""></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><i>Cocreation Consultant & CoCreate Adelaide Facilitator</i></div></div><div><div class="yiv2489568878MsoNormal"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" 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