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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Artur ... no doubt Gleick missed a beat ... to say nothing of one of the most critical players in the emerging understanding of Self Organization. That said, James is a marvelous writer, and the stories he does tell are (I think) superbly done. As it happens, I was personally connected to one or two of them, and his descriptions and my experience correlate highly. So I would say read him for what he wrote, and forgive the rest.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Harrison<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Winter Address<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>7808 River Falls Drive<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Potomac, MD 20854<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>301-365-2093<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Summer Address<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>189 Beaucaire Ave.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Camden, ME 04843<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>207-763-3261<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Websites<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="%20www.openspaceworld.com"> www.openspaceworld.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>OSLIST </span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Artur Silva via OSList<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> Harrison Owen; 'John Baxter'; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'; World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea: 'self organisation'<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_9539"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Hi people out there,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_9539"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_9539"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>I would also recommend “Order out of Chaos,” from Prigogine and Stengers and, also from the same authors: " "</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:#333333'>The New Alliance: Metamorphosis of Science". (I don't know if there is an English translation: as I only find it in French, Spanish and Italian...). They are both written by a Physicist and an Anthropologist, but are written for the lay person. </span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5830"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5830"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:#333333'>And, yes, “</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>At home in the Universe” by Kauffmann </span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:#333333'>is a must, even if more complex.</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5830"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5830"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:#333333'>I have many doubts about Gleick's book on "Chaos", as there is not even a single reference to Prigogine. He is not even mentioned in the entire book. It is like writing about "The Evolution of the Species" without referring Darwin... </span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5830"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5830"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5830"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5830"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Artur<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5684"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5683"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5829"><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6170"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Harrison Owen via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6173">To:</b> 'John Baxter' <<a href="mailto:john@jsbaxter.com.au">john@jsbaxter.com.au</a>>; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:46 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea: 'self organisation'</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5682"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv2489568878><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5681"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5680"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5818"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>John – the literature on self organization is massive, and to be honest a number of years have passed since I felt myself to be marginally informed. That said, there are three books that I found to be most helpful, and all – to the best of my knowledge – are still in print. In historical order they are: “Order out of Chaos,” Ilya Prigogine, “Chaos,” James Gleick, and “At home in the Universe” Stuart Kauffmann. I would suggest starting with “Chaos” – which is the best written and pulls together lots of wonderful strands. </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5817"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5816"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Harrison</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5815"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span 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id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5714"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5713"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> OSList [<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5808">On Behalf Of </b>John Baxter via OSList<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 28, 2014 10:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> Daniel Mezick; World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea: 'self organisation'</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5810"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5718"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5812"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5811"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Great idea Daniel<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6042"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6041"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5717"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5716"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Stigmergy I am familiar with (from Mark et al from Collabforge in Melbourne - did his PhD on stigmergy and collaboration! Public book in the works now), but I know there is much more there.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6044"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6043"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6047"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_6046"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>The main references to self organisation in the sciences I have come across so far, I have not been able to track down due to being out of print and the like...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5720"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5719"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5723"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5722"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Tracking down such refs and mapping the gems from them is exactly the kind of thing I imagine myself doing over summer.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5725"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5724"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5727"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5726"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I've now saved those links to my reference list : )<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5729"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5728"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> 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style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5766"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5765"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>There are many well-established words that are used to more precisely discuss self "organization" in the biological and social sciences. I wonder if actively using some of these well-defined words might be helpful in the discussion.<br><br>Example: stigmergy<br><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=define+stigmergy" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?q=define+stigmergy</a><br><b>Stigmergy</b> is a mechanism of indirect coordination between agents or actions. The principle is that the trace left in the environment by an action stimulates the performance of a next action, by the same or a different agent.<br><br>More details<br><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/Stigmergy.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/Stigmergy.html</a><br><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/StigmergyAndSelf.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/StigmergyAndSelf.html</a><br><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/FourPrinciples.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/FourPrinciples.html</a><br><a href="http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/IntertwinedPrinciples.html" target="_blank">http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/IntertwinedPrinciples.html</a><br><br>Daniel<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5769"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5768"><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt' id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5767"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5771"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5770"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>On 11/26/14 8:25 PM, John Baxter via OSList wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5777"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5776"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5775"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5774"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5773"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417282607064_5772"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Hello facilitators of self organisation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Let's take a moment to consider self organisation, as 'field' or 'practice'.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I am scoping a summer project at the moment (in the southern hemisphere!).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I have been reading and learning all I can about self org. There is less than I expected at the heart of self org practice, but much more than I realised in intersecting fields (e.g. in governance, democracy, community organising, management, change, systems...). There are also unanswered Qs about what 'self org' <i>is</i> (indeed, if it is anything at all).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>It might be worthwhile formalising this, through a focused research project, and sharing the results in a report or the like.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Possible focus questions that come to mind for me are<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>- what does someone need to know to say "I do self organisation"?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>- what would someone need to know to be an 'expert' in self org?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Would appreciate your perspective, as a practitioner-facilitator-fellow wave rider:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span 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