<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Is OpenSpace a Meeting?</div><div><br></div><div>Dear Daniel et al</div><div><br></div><div>For me, open space is a condition of life. </div><div><br></div><div>OST has many forms: a meeting or gathering is the most common collective form. </div><div>However, it's also a way of life, a "technology" (tool) for living one's life. </div><div>Do you find yourself (in your inner talk) applying the law or principles that way?</div><div>Eg: "Do i really care about that? Maybe i'll pass that one up." </div><div>Or in relationship? </div><div>Eg: someone you were expecting at a meeting doesn't show up: "Oh ok...Whoever comes are the right people." </div><div>For me, this form of OST keeps me in the flow of the life force. </div><div>Hmmm maybe OST is a way of tracking the life force? In one's personal life as well as our collective life??</div><div><br></div><div>Those are some thoughts that are coming to me. You're raising interesting questions, Daniel. Thanks!</div><div><br></div><div>Anne stadler</div><div><br><div><br><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);">Your Self</span></div><div>Occupy</div><div>100%</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>A world that works for ALL is a world of love made visible</div><div><br></div><div>Phone: 206-459-0227</div><div>Skype: anne.m.stadler</div><div> <span style="font-size: 13pt;"> </span></div><div><span style="font-size: 13pt;"><a href="http://Www.CompassionateSeattlehome.org">Www.CompassionateSeattlehome.org</a> </span></div><div><a href="http://www.CharterforCompassion.org">www.CharterforCompassion.org</a></div><div><a href="http://www.ProtecttheSacred.org">www.ProtecttheSacred.org</a></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Nov 20, 2014, at 1:19 PM, via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Send OSList mailing list submissions to</span><br><span> <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit</span><br><span> <a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to</span><br><span> <a href="mailto:oslist-request@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-request@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>You can reach the person managing the list at</span><br><span> <a href="mailto:oslist-owner@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-owner@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific</span><br><span>than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..."</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Today's Topics:</span><br><span></span><br><span> 1. Re: Open Space for my own team (Daniel Mezick via OSList)</span><br><span> 2. Re: Is Open Space a meeting? (John Baxter via OSList)</span><br><span> 3. Critical Testing (K?ri Gunnarsson via OSList)</span><br><span> 4. Re: Is Open Space a meeting? (via OSList)</span><br><span> 5. Re: Is Open Space a meeting? (via OSList)</span><br><span> 6. Re: Critical Testing (Daniel Mezick via OSList)</span><br><span> 7. Re: Is Open Space a meeting? (Rosa Zubizarreta via OSList)</span><br><span> 8. Re: Critical Testing (K?ri Gunnarsson via OSList)</span><br><span> 9. Re: Is Open Space a meeting? (K?ri Gunnarsson via OSList)</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>----------------------------------------------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 1</span><br><span>Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 23:45:17 -0500</span><br><span>From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>To: <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Open Space for my own team</span><br><span>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:546D71DD.4030104@newtechusa.net">546D71DD.4030104@newtechusa.net</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Hi Agnieszka,</span><br><span></span><br><span>I feel you have excellent instincts with respect to your discomfort with </span><br><span>the idea of Facilitating and participating as a member at the same time. </span><br><span>Like you, I, too am also uncomfortable... occupying the roles of </span><br><span>Facilitator and Participant at the same time.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I coach Agile. If I am functioning as coach to the group, I always </span><br><span>refrain from Facilitating OST, because my current belief is that I </span><br><span>probably cannot be effective as the OST Facilitator in that spot.</span><br><span></span><br><span>In any event, instead, I prefer to pay a friend to do the Facilitation, </span><br><span>and then play in the OST game as a Participant.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>And so: I wonder if you might have a local friend, someone interested in </span><br><span>your OST work, who is not currently a member of your team. I wonder if </span><br><span>you could teach this local-friend person the basics of OST Facilitation </span><br><span>ahead of time. I wonder if you could teach this person how to do it, in, </span><br><span>say, 1 or 2 hours, with a little, private, mock "chairs-in-a-circle" </span><br><span>walk-through, with the posters, etc.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I wonder if your friend might then be willing to actually do the </span><br><span>Facilitation of your team's OST event, in exchange for your excellent </span><br><span>before/during/after mentoring (and the very excellent learn-by-doing </span><br><span>opportunity.)</span><br><span></span><br><span>Kind Regards,</span><br><span>Daniel</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On 11/19/14 2:58 AM, Agnieszka Maja Wawrzyniak via OSList wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi All,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I am to facilitate an Open Space for a team I am a part of and I </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>really would like to participate, but as a facilitator, I know I </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>shouldn't.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>We will probably not able to hire an external facilitator, so I'm </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>tryng to work this out...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Do you have similar experiences? Any ideas? Recommendations?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Greets</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Agnieszka</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>OSList mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span></span><br><span>Daniel Mezick, President</span><br><span></span><br><span>New Technology Solutions Inc.</span><br><span></span><br><span>(203) 915 7248 (cell)</span><br><span></span><br><span>Bio <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/">http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/</a>>. Blog </span><br><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/">http://newtechusa.net/blog/</a>>. Twitter <<a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/">http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/</a>>.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Examine my new book:The Culture Game </span><br><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/">http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/</a>>: Tools for the </span><br><span>Agile Manager.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Explore Agile Team Training </span><br><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/">http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/</a>> and Coaching. </span><br><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/">http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>Explore the Agile Boston <<a href="http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/">http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/</a>>Community.</span><br><span></span><br><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20141119/301d3e30/attachment.html">http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20141119/301d3e30/attachment.html</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 2</span><br><span>Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:52:57 +1030</span><br><span>From: John Baxter via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>To: Harold Shinsato <<a href="mailto:harold@shinsato.com">harold@shinsato.com</a>>, World wide Open Space</span><br><span> Technology email list <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Is Open Space a meeting?</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:CAJpg6=TMcW7Z7=C7D1PuFE=3_Y3-tU1VhabuBLGf5Hyr_Zczig@mail.gmail.com">CAJpg6=TMcW7Z7=C7D1PuFE=3_Y3-tU1VhabuBLGf5Hyr_Zczig@mail.gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>I can tell you if a meeting is Open Space (though there are plenty of grey</span><br><span>examples), but not if Open Space is a meeting.</span><br><span></span><br><span>In my personal lingo, Open Space is a way of being together, not a whole</span><br><span>package that describes an event.</span><br><span></span><br><span>You can hold meetings in Open Space, you can hold gatherings in Open Space,</span><br><span>you can hold conferences in Open Space... you can do any of these things</span><br><span>in any other way... and you can have Open Space in any myriad forms of</span><br><span>'gathering' too.</span><br><span></span><br><span>My response feels unclear, though it was perfectly clear before I wrote it,</span><br><span>I promise... Hopefully it comes out okay at your end.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Cheers</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>*John Baxter*</span><br><span>*Cocreation Consultant & ?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator*</span><br><span><a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au">jsbaxter.com.au</a> <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>> | <a href="http://CoCreateADL.com">CoCreateADL.com</a></span><br><span>0405 447 829</span><br><span>? | ?</span><br><span>@jsbaxter_ <<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_">http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>*Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about City</span><br><span>Grill!*</span><br><span>*Summary and links: <a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/">cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a></span><br><span><<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/">http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a>>*</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <</span><br><span><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span> Hi Daniel,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I think we can count Open Space as a "meeting" by both definitions 1. and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>2. in your dictionary listing. But it doesn't fit well to me in the poetic</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>sense. I prefer conference or gathering. Or even better, it is something</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>that stands alone and apart, as its own sort of thing. So instead of saying</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"we're going to the open space meeting", we just say "we're going to the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>open space."</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>In general, my sense of a "meeting" is something where we all meet in the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>same place at the same time and talk about the same things, *mostly* one at</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>a time.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Harold</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 11/18/14 5:29 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have a simple question: Is Open Space a meeting?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>For purposes of discussion, let's use this definition of /meeting/:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>meet?ing</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>?m?diNG/</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>noun</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>noun: meeting; plural noun: meetings</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> 1.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> *an assembly of people, especially the members of a society or commit*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*t**ee**, for discussion or entertainment.*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* "the early-dismissal policy will be discussed at our next meeting"*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* synonyms: gathering, assembly, conference, congregation, convention,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>summit, forum, convocation, conclave, council, rally, caucus; More*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* power lunch, power breakfast;*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* informal get-together*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* "he stood up to address the meeting"*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* a gathering of people, especially Quakers, for worship.*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* 2.*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* a coming together of two or more people, by chance or arrangement.*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* "he intrigued her on their first meeting"*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* synonyms: consultation, audience, interview More*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Is Open Space a meeting?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel Mezick, President</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>New Technology Solutions Inc.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(203) 915 7248 (cell)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bio <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/">http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/</a>>. Blog</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/">http://newtechusa.net/blog/</a>>. 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charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved technology.</span><br><span>I propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. An idea for a</span><br><span>trial design would be to collect survey data where the nuances of the lived</span><br><span>experiences would be teased out, survey data collected by cooperation among</span><br><span>our grand Institutes and access given to unaffiliated researchers to</span><br><span>collect some understandings and make their own conclusions in publishable</span><br><span>science papers. It will probably be far too difficult, even impossible the</span><br><span>task of building of such survey database along with the standardized</span><br><span>questioners. And the time to build it was sometime long ago, we are long</span><br><span>past out do time. There is urgency to this task. But do we have to do it?</span><br><span>Well, is there a real need for this approach? I think we can host this</span><br><span>endeavor, even try to find a design that allows for a Double-blinded rigor.</span><br><span>My vision is that we design standardize and publish a survey that we then</span><br><span>allow events to use to collect data for us, data that we then give to</span><br><span>researchers where they can use it for their publishing needs. There is also</span><br><span>the Pandora?s Box of issues and opportunities. It looks like it is a topic</span><br><span>ripe for an open space, "be prepared to be surprised".</span><br><span></span><br><span>The new late majority folks are going for the theme of ?participatory</span><br><span>processes? and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new</span><br><span>gathering pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is less</span><br><span>controlling that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be part of a</span><br><span>broader sense of analyses under the more general heading of participatory</span><br><span>processes.</span><br><span></span><br><span>But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type of</span><br><span>analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look at the</span><br><span>difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers</span><br><span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers</a> and earlier research</span><br><span>procedures.</span><br><span></span><br><span>A resent story on "time to think", two weeks ago I facilitated a short 3</span><br><span>hour open space for a local branch of a political on their internal</span><br><span>operations. There were also a lot of other things happening before and</span><br><span>after the conversation part of the program, some football fans even</span><br><span>disappeared during the open space to see the ongoing game. Personally I</span><br><span>was happy that we had the lunch before the open space, I took some time for</span><br><span>reflection and thinking about the possible dream future and topics that</span><br><span>make us show up for the work. Then reflection and lunch was served, a lot</span><br><span>of chatter during the soup lunch, then back to the introduction of</span><br><span>principles ? ?Whatever happens is the only thing that could have, be</span><br><span>prepared to be surprised!?? democracy of the feet / the law of mobility,</span><br><span>the bugs and what they give us. Then brake for topics. ? It was short</span><br><span>time and a lot of conflict of attention by the sponsors for the other parts</span><br><span>of the day program, but it worked out well. The passion for work and the</span><br><span>freedom of this technology opened for topics and responsibility that had</span><br><span>previously been submerged by the tyranny of long speeches and lectures.</span><br><span>Give a little time and then open up some space, works each time given the</span><br><span>preconditions.</span><br><span></span><br><span>In openness,</span><br><span>K?ri the group coach</span><br><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20141120/b4719a3e/attachment-0001.htm">http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20141120/b4719a3e/attachment-0001.htm</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 4</span><br><span>Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 13:35:55 +0000 (UTC)</span><br><span>From: via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>To: John Baxter <<a href="mailto:john@jsbaxter.com.au">john@jsbaxter.com.au</a>>, Harold Shinsato</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:harold@shinsato.com">harold@shinsato.com</a>>, World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>, World wide Open Space Technology</span><br><span> email list <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Is Open Space a meeting?</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:1176079987.1977434.1416490555746.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com">1176079987.1977434.1416490555746.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com</a>></span><br><span> </span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>I like your description of?Open Space being a "way"....</span><br><span>It can be a way in terms of a path, or a way in terms of a means, or a way in terms of a mindset.</span><br><span>Hence, "the way that can be described is not the universal way, and the name that can be named is not the universal name." (Lao Tzu)?</span><br><span>Sorry, I seem to have made it even more unclear....</span><br><span>Chuni Li</span><br><span>? From: John Baxter via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span> To: Harold Shinsato <<a href="mailto:harold@shinsato.com">harold@shinsato.com</a>>; World wide Open Space Technology email list <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> </span><br><span> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 12:22 AM</span><br><span> Subject: Re: [OSList] Is Open Space a meeting?</span><br><span></span><br><span>I can tell you if a meeting is Open Space (though there are plenty of grey examples), but not if Open Space is a meeting.</span><br><span>In my personal lingo, Open Space is a way of being together, not a whole package that describes an event.</span><br><span></span><br><span>You can hold meetings in Open Space, you can hold gatherings in Open Space, you can hold conferences in Open Space... ?you can do any of these things in any other way... and you can have Open Space in any myriad forms of 'gathering' too.</span><br><span>My response feels unclear, though it was perfectly clear before I wrote it, I promise...? Hopefully it comes out okay at your end.</span><br><span>Cheers</span><br><span></span><br><span>John BaxterCocreation Consultant & ?Co?Create Adelaide <a href="http://Facilitatorjsbaxter.com.au">Facilitatorjsbaxter.com.au</a>?| CoCreateADL.com0405 447 829? | ?@jsbaxter_</span><br><span>Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about City Grill!Summary and links: <a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/">cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span> Hi Daniel,</span><br><span></span><br><span> I think we can count Open Space as a "meeting" by both definitions 1. and 2. in your dictionary listing. But it doesn't fit well to me in the poetic sense. I prefer conference or gathering. Or even better, it is something that stands alone and apart, as its own sort of thing. So instead of saying "we're going to the open space meeting", we just say "we're going to the open space."</span><br><span></span><br><span> In general, my sense of a "meeting" is something where we all meet in the same place at the same time and talk about the same things, *mostly* one at a time.</span><br><span></span><br><span> ??? Harold</span><br><span></span><br><span> On 11/18/14 5:29 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><span> I have a simple question: Is Open Space a meeting?</span><br><span></span><br><span> For purposes of discussion, let's use this definition of /meeting/:</span><br><span></span><br><span> meet?ing</span><br><span> ?m?diNG/</span><br><span> noun</span><br><span> noun: meeting; plural noun: meetings</span><br><span></span><br><span> ??? 1.</span><br><span> ??? an assembly of people, especially the members of a society or committee, for discussion or entertainment.</span><br><span> ??? "the early-dismissal policy will be discussed at our next meeting"</span><br><span> ??? synonyms: gathering, assembly, conference, congregation, convention, summit, forum, convocation, conclave, council, rally, caucus; More</span><br><span> ??? power lunch, power breakfast;</span><br><span> ??? informal get-together</span><br><span> ??? "he stood up to address the meeting"</span><br><span> ??????? a gathering of people, especially Quakers, for worship.</span><br><span> ??? 2.</span><br><span> ??? a coming together of two or more people, by chance or arrangement.</span><br><span> ??? "he intrigued her on their first meeting"</span><br><span> ??? synonyms: consultation, audience, interview More</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span> Is Open Space a meeting?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span> Daniel</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span> -- </span><br><span> Daniel Mezick, President New Technology Solutions Inc. (203) 915 7248 (cell) Bio. Blog. Twitter.? Examine my new book:? The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager. Explore Agile Team Training and Coaching. Explore the Agile Boston Community.? </span><br><span></span><br><span> _______________________________________________</span><br><span>OSList mailing list</span><br><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span> -- </span><br><span> Harold Shinsato</span><br><span> <a href="mailto:harold@shinsato.com">harold@shinsato.com</a></span><br><span> <a href="http://shinsato.com">http://shinsato.com</a></span><br><span> twitter: @hajush </span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>OSList mailing list</span><br><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>OSList mailing list</span><br><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20141120/ff56f14a/attachment-0002.htm">http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20141120/ff56f14a/attachment-0002.htm</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 5</span><br><span>Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 13:35:55 +0000 (UTC)</span><br><span>From: via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>To: John Baxter <<a href="mailto:john@jsbaxter.com.au">john@jsbaxter.com.au</a>>, Harold Shinsato</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:harold@shinsato.com">harold@shinsato.com</a>>, World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>, World wide Open Space Technology</span><br><span> email list <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Is Open Space a meeting?</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:1176079987.1977434.1416490555746.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com">1176079987.1977434.1416490555746.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10075.mail.ne1.yahoo.com</a>></span><br><span> </span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>I like your description of?Open Space being a "way"....</span><br><span>It can be a way in terms of a path, or a way in terms of a means, or a way in terms of a mindset.</span><br><span>Hence, "the way that can be described is not the universal way, and the name that can be named is not the universal name." (Lao Tzu)?</span><br><span>Sorry, I seem to have made it even more unclear....</span><br><span>Chuni Li</span><br><span>? From: John Baxter via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span> To: Harold Shinsato <<a href="mailto:harold@shinsato.com">harold@shinsato.com</a>>; World wide Open Space Technology email list <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> </span><br><span> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 12:22 AM</span><br><span> Subject: Re: [OSList] Is Open Space a meeting?</span><br><span></span><br><span>I can tell you if a meeting is Open Space (though there are plenty of grey examples), but not if Open Space is a meeting.</span><br><span>In my personal lingo, Open Space is a way of being together, not a whole package that describes an event.</span><br><span></span><br><span>You can hold meetings in Open Space, you can hold gatherings in Open Space, you can hold conferences in Open Space... ?you can do any of these things in any other way... and you can have Open Space in any myriad forms of 'gathering' too.</span><br><span>My response feels unclear, though it was perfectly clear before I wrote it, I promise...? Hopefully it comes out okay at your end.</span><br><span>Cheers</span><br><span></span><br><span>John BaxterCocreation Consultant & ?Co?Create Adelaide <a href="http://Facilitatorjsbaxter.com.au">Facilitatorjsbaxter.com.au</a>?| CoCreateADL.com0405 447 829? | ?@jsbaxter_</span><br><span>Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about City Grill!Summary and links: <a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/">cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span> Hi Daniel,</span><br><span></span><br><span> I think we can count Open Space as a "meeting" by both definitions 1. and 2. in your dictionary listing. But it doesn't fit well to me in the poetic sense. I prefer conference or gathering. Or even better, it is something that stands alone and apart, as its own sort of thing. So instead of saying "we're going to the open space meeting", we just say "we're going to the open space."</span><br><span></span><br><span> In general, my sense of a "meeting" is something where we all meet in the same place at the same time and talk about the same things, *mostly* one at a time.</span><br><span></span><br><span> ??? Harold</span><br><span></span><br><span> On 11/18/14 5:29 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><span> I have a simple question: Is Open Space a meeting?</span><br><span></span><br><span> For purposes of discussion, let's use this definition of /meeting/:</span><br><span></span><br><span> meet?ing</span><br><span> ?m?diNG/</span><br><span> noun</span><br><span> noun: meeting; plural noun: meetings</span><br><span></span><br><span> ??? 1.</span><br><span> ??? an assembly of people, especially the members of a society or committee, for discussion or entertainment.</span><br><span> ??? "the early-dismissal policy will be discussed at our next meeting"</span><br><span> ??? synonyms: gathering, assembly, conference, congregation, convention, summit, forum, convocation, conclave, council, rally, caucus; More</span><br><span> ??? power lunch, power breakfast;</span><br><span> ??? informal get-together</span><br><span> ??? "he stood up to address the meeting"</span><br><span> ??????? a gathering of people, especially Quakers, for worship.</span><br><span> ??? 2.</span><br><span> ??? a coming together of two or more people, by chance or arrangement.</span><br><span> ??? "he intrigued her on their first meeting"</span><br><span> ??? synonyms: consultation, audience, interview More</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span> Is Open Space a meeting?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span> Daniel</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span> -- </span><br><span> Daniel Mezick, President New Technology Solutions Inc. (203) 915 7248 (cell) Bio. Blog. Twitter.? Examine my new book:? The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager. Explore Agile Team Training and Coaching. Explore the Agile Boston Community.? </span><br><span></span><br><span> _______________________________________________</span><br><span>OSList mailing list</span><br><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span> -- </span><br><span> Harold Shinsato</span><br><span> <a href="mailto:harold@shinsato.com">harold@shinsato.com</a></span><br><span> <a href="http://shinsato.com">http://shinsato.com</a></span><br><span> twitter: @hajush </span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>OSList mailing list</span><br><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>OSList mailing list</span><br><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20141120/ff56f14a/attachment-0003.htm">http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20141120/ff56f14a/attachment-0003.htm</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 6</span><br><span>Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 09:06:04 -0500</span><br><span>From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>To: K?ri Gunnarsson <<a href="mailto:kari.gunnarsson@simnet.is">kari.gunnarsson@simnet.is</a>>, World wide Open Space</span><br><span> Technology email list <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Critical Testing</span><br><span>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:546DF54C.3000107@newtechusa.net">546DF54C.3000107@newtechusa.net</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Hi K?ri,</span><br><span></span><br><span>Thank you for making your proposals. They are very interesting!</span><br><span></span><br><span>Daniel</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 11/20/14 6:34 AM, K?ri Gunnarsson via OSList wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>technology. I propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>An idea for a trial design would be to collect survey data where the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>nuances of the lived experiences would be teased out, survey data </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>collected by cooperation among our grand Institutes and access given </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>to unaffiliated researchers to collect some understandings and make </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>their own conclusions in publishable science papers. It will probably </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>be far too difficult, even impossible the task of building of such </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>survey database along with the standardized questioners. And the time </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>to build it was sometime long ago, we are long past out do time. There </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>is urgency to this task. But do we have to do it? Well, is there a </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>real need for this approach? I think we can host this endeavor, even </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>try to find a design that allows for a Double-blinded rigor. My vision </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>is that we design standardize and publish a survey that we then allow </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>events to use to collect data for us, data that we then give to </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>researchers where they can use it for their publishing needs. There is </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>also the Pandora's Box of issues and opportunities. It looks like it </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>is a topic ripe for an open space, "be prepared to be surprised".</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The new late majority folks are going for the theme of "participatory </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>processes" and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>gathering pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>less controlling that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>part of a broader sense of analyses under the more general heading of </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>participatory processes.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>of analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>at the difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers</a> and earlier research </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>procedures.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>A resent story on "time to think", two weeks ago I facilitated a short </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>3 hour open space for a local branch of a political on their internal </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>operations. There were also a lot of other things happening before and </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>after the conversation part of the program, some football fans even </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>disappeared during the open space to see the ongoing game. Personally </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I was happy that we had the lunch before the open space, I took some </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>time for reflection and thinking about the possible dream future and </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>topics that make us show up for the work. Then reflection and lunch </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>was served, a lot of chatter during the soup lunch, then back to the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>introduction of principles ... "Whatever happens is the only thing </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>that could have, be prepared to be surprised!"... democracy of the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>feet / the law of mobility, the bugs and what they give us. Then brake </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>for topics. ... It was short time and a lot of conflict of attention </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>by the sponsors for the other parts of the day program, but it worked </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>out well. The passion for work and the freedom of this technology </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>opened for topics and responsibility that had previously been </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>submerged by the tyranny of long speeches and lectures. Give a little </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>time and then open up some space, works each time given the preconditions.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>In openness,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>K?ri the group coach</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>OSList mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span></span><br><span>Daniel Mezick, President</span><br><span></span><br><span>New Technology Solutions Inc.</span><br><span></span><br><span>(203) 915 7248 (cell)</span><br><span></span><br><span>Bio <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/">http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/</a>>. Blog </span><br><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/">http://newtechusa.net/blog/</a>>. Twitter <<a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/">http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/</a>>.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Examine my new book:The Culture Game </span><br><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/">http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/</a>>: Tools for the </span><br><span>Agile Manager.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Explore Agile Team Training </span><br><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/">http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/</a>> and Coaching. </span><br><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/">http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>Explore the Agile Boston <<a href="http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/">http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/</a>>Community.</span><br><span></span><br><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20141120/dc74b59a/attachment-0001.htm">http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20141120/dc74b59a/attachment-0001.htm</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 7</span><br><span>Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:59:07 -0500</span><br><span>From: Rosa Zubizarreta via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>To: <a href="mailto:chunili2000@yahoo.com">chunili2000@yahoo.com</a>, World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Is Open Space a meeting?</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:CAHp709fh-v+OJWjGOXTzUf30=Z-nj98dZrjvJRm7e3J1TTDDNw@mail.gmail.com">CAHp709fh-v+OJWjGOXTzUf30=Z-nj98dZrjvJRm7e3J1TTDDNw@mail.gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>slippery ground there, Daniel, talking about what OS "is"! :-)</span><br><span></span><br><span>however, on a very practical level, I will speak from my own experience,</span><br><span>about what OS can *do*:</span><br><span></span><br><span>to me, it offers a space where people can figure out *what *they</span><br><span>really want to meet about, and then meet with others who also care about</span><br><span>the same thing.</span><br><span></span><br><span>So in that sense, it creates a space for *many* "meetings" to happen --</span><br><span>the kind of "meeting", that people *want* to show up for!</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>*Rosa Zubizarreta*</span><br><span></span><br><span>*Diapraxis: Facilitating Creative Collaborationhttp://www.diapraxis.com</span><br><span><<a href="http://www.diapraxis.com/">http://www.diapraxis.com/</a>>*</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 8:35 AM, via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>I like your description of Open Space being a "way"....</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>It can be a way in terms of a path, or a way in terms of a means, or a way</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>in terms of a mindset.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hence, "the way that can be described is not the universal way, and the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>name that can be named is not the universal name." (Lao Tzu)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sorry, I seem to have made it even more unclear....</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Chuni Li</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> ------------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> *From:* John Baxter via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*To:* Harold Shinsato <<a href="mailto:harold@shinsato.com">harold@shinsato.com</a>>; World wide Open Space</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Technology email list <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Sent:* Thursday, November 20, 2014 12:22 AM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Subject:* Re: [OSList] Is Open Space a meeting?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I can tell you if a meeting is Open Space (though there are plenty of grey</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>examples), but not if Open Space is a meeting.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>In my personal lingo, Open Space is a way of being together, not a whole</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>package that describes an event.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>You can hold meetings in Open Space, you can hold gatherings in Open</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Space, you can hold conferences in Open Space... you can do any of these</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>things in any other way... and you can have Open Space in any myriad forms</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>of 'gathering' too.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>My response feels unclear, though it was perfectly clear before I wrote</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>it, I promise... Hopefully it comes out okay at your end.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cheers</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*John Baxter*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Cocreation Consultant & ?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au">jsbaxter.com.au</a> <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>> | <a href="http://CoCreateADL.com">CoCreateADL.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/">http://cocreateadl.com/</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>0405 447 829</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>? | ?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@jsbaxter_ <<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_">http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about City</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Grill!*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Summary and links: <a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/">cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/">http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a>>*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi Daniel,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I think we can count Open Space as a "meeting" by both definitions 1. and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>2. in your dictionary listing. But it doesn't fit well to me in the poetic</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>sense. I prefer conference or gathering. Or even better, it is something</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>that stands alone and apart, as its own sort of thing. So instead of saying</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"we're going to the open space meeting", we just say "we're going to the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>open space."</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>In general, my sense of a "meeting" is something where we all meet in the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>same place at the same time and talk about the same things, *mostly* one at</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>a time.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Harold</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 11/18/14 5:29 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have a simple question: Is Open Space a meeting?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>For purposes of discussion, let's use this definition of /meeting/:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>meet?ing</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>?m?diNG/</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>noun</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>noun: meeting; plural noun: meetings</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> 1.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> *an assembly of people, especially the members of a society or commit*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*t**ee**, for discussion or entertainment.*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* "the early-dismissal policy will be discussed at our next meeting"*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* synonyms: gathering, assembly, conference, congregation, convention,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>summit, forum, convocation, conclave, council, rally, caucus; More*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* power lunch, power breakfast;*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* informal get-together*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* "he stood up to address the meeting"*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* a gathering of people, especially Quakers, for worship.*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* 2.*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* a coming together of two or more people, by chance or arrangement.*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* "he intrigued her on their first meeting"*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>* synonyms: consultation, audience, interview More*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Is Open Space a meeting?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel Mezick, President</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>New Technology Solutions Inc.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(203) 915 7248 (cell)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bio <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/">http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/</a>>. Blog</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/">http://newtechusa.net/blog/</a>>. Twitter</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/">http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/</a>>.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Examine my new book: The Culture Game</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/">http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/</a>>: Tools for the Agile</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Manager.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Explore Agile Team Training</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/">http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/</a>> and Coaching.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/">http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Explore 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href="mailto:CAEjHsL=j=8GP_SahNpmVGVcBT0ymOO1x5_C=q_OTpiNJcdVcng@mail.gmail.com">CAEjHsL=j=8GP_SahNpmVGVcBT0ymOO1x5_C=q_OTpiNJcdVcng@mail.gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Hi Daniel</span><br><span></span><br><span>You are welcome.</span><br><span></span><br><span>My tiered English was not at it best in the first post, but I hope the</span><br><span>spellchecker managed to make my writing readable.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Well there is always the purpose of the occasion and how it plays out. I</span><br><span>would now be interested how different participatory processes work for</span><br><span>individuals and compare it to Belbin team roles or the personality</span><br><span>psychology of the five scales: Cautious-inventive; Organized-careless;</span><br><span>Energetic-reserved; Analytical-compassionate; and Confident-nervous. But</span><br><span>what to measure for is of-course up to the purpose of our survey.</span><br><span></span><br><span>What would be our next step in this topic offering.</span><br><span></span><br><span>In openness,</span><br><span>K?ri the group coach</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On 20 November 2014 14:06, Daniel Mezick via OSList <</span><br><span><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span> Hi K?ri,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thank you for making your proposals. They are very interesting!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 11/20/14 6:34 AM, K?ri Gunnarsson via OSList wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>technology. I propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. An</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>idea for a trial design would be to collect survey data where the nuances</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>of the lived experiences would be teased out, survey data collected by</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>cooperation among our grand Institutes and access given to unaffiliated</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>researchers to collect some understandings and make their own conclusions</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>in publishable science papers. It will probably be far too difficult, even</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>impossible the task of building of such survey database along with the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>standardized questioners. And the time to build it was sometime long ago,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>we are long past out do time. There is urgency to this task. But do we have</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>to do it? Well, is there a real need for this approach? I think we can host</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>this endeavor, even try to find a design that allows for a Double-blinded</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>rigor. My vision is that we design standardize and publish a survey that we</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>then allow events to use to collect data for us, data that we then give to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>researchers where they can use it for their publishing needs. There is also</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the Pandora?s Box of issues and opportunities. It looks like it is a topic</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ripe for an open space, "be prepared to be surprised".</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The new late majority folks are going for the theme of ?participatory</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>processes? and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>gathering pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is less</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>controlling that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be part of a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>broader sense of analyses under the more general heading of participatory</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>processes.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look at the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers</a> and earlier research</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>procedures.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>A resent story on "time to think", two weeks ago I facilitated a short 3</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>hour open space for a local branch of a political on their internal</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>operations. There were also a lot of other things happening before and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>after the conversation part of the program, some football fans even</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>disappeared during the open space to see the ongoing game. Personally I</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>was happy that we had the lunch before the open space, I took some time for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>reflection and thinking about the possible dream future and topics that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>make us show up for the work. Then reflection and lunch was served, a lot</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>of chatter during the soup lunch, then back to the introduction of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>principles ? ?Whatever happens is the only thing that could have, be</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>prepared to be surprised!?? democracy of the feet / the law of mobility,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the bugs and what they give us. Then brake for topics. ? It was short</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>time and a lot of conflict of attention by the sponsors for the other parts</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>of the day program, but it worked out well. The passion for work and the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>freedom of this technology opened for topics and responsibility that had</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>previously been submerged by the tyranny of long speeches and lectures.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Give a little time and then open up some space, works each time given the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>preconditions.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>In openness,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>K?ri the group coach</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>OSList mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:http://<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel Mezick, President</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>New Technology Solutions Inc.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(203) 915 7248 (cell)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bio <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/">http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/</a>>. 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Where</span><br><span>people have meetings (with there chosen sub-framework) on topics in</span><br><span>connection to our themed and use our common super-framework to organize the</span><br><span>meetings and there outcomes.</span><br><span></span><br><span>In openness,</span><br><span>K?ri the group coach</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On 20 November 2014 20:59, Rosa Zubizarreta via OSList <</span><br><span><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>slippery ground there, Daniel, talking about what OS "is"! :-)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>however, on a very practical level, I will speak from my own experience,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>about what OS can *do*:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>to me, it offers a space where people can figure out *what *they</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>really want to meet about, and then meet with others who also care about</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the same thing.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>So in that sense, it creates a space for *many* "meetings" to happen --</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the kind of "meeting", that people *want* to show up for!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Rosa Zubizarreta*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Diapraxis: Facilitating Creative Collaborationhttp://www.diapraxis.com</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://www.diapraxis.com/">http://www.diapraxis.com/</a>>*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 8:35 AM, via OSList <</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I like your description of Open Space being a "way"....</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>It can be a way in terms of a path, or a way in terms of a means, or a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>way in terms of a mindset.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hence, "the way that can be described is not the universal way, and the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>name that can be named is not the universal name." (Lao Tzu)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sorry, I seem to have made it even more unclear....</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Chuni Li</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> ------------------------------</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> *From:* John Baxter via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*To:* Harold Shinsato <<a href="mailto:harold@shinsato.com">harold@shinsato.com</a>>; World wide Open Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Technology email list <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Sent:* Thursday, November 20, 2014 12:22 AM</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Subject:* Re: [OSList] Is Open Space a meeting?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I can tell you if a meeting is Open Space (though there are plenty of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>grey examples), but not if Open Space is a meeting.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>In my personal lingo, Open Space is a way of being together, not a whole</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>package that describes an event.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>You can hold meetings in Open Space, you can hold gatherings in Open</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Space, you can hold conferences in Open Space... you can do any of these</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>things in any other way... and you can have Open Space in any myriad forms</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>of 'gathering' too.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>My response feels unclear, though it was perfectly clear before I wrote</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>it, I promise... Hopefully it comes out okay at your end.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cheers</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*John Baxter*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Cocreation Consultant & ?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au">jsbaxter.com.au</a> <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>> | <a href="http://CoCreateADL.com">CoCreateADL.com</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/">http://cocreateadl.com/</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>0405 447 829</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>? | ?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>@jsbaxter_ <<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_">http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>City Grill!*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Summary and links: <a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/">cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/">http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a>>*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi Daniel,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I think we can count Open Space as a "meeting" by both definitions 1. and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>2. in your dictionary listing. But it doesn't fit well to me in the poetic</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>sense. I prefer conference or gathering. Or even better, it is something</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that stands alone and apart, as its own sort of thing. So instead of saying</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"we're going to the open space meeting", we just say "we're going to the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>open space."</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>In general, my sense of a "meeting" is something where we all meet in the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>same place at the same time and talk about the same things, *mostly* one at</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>a time.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Harold</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 11/18/14 5:29 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have a simple question: Is Open Space a meeting?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>For purposes of discussion, let's use this definition of /meeting/:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>meet?ing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>?m?diNG/</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>noun</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>noun: meeting; plural noun: meetings</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 1.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> *an assembly of people, especially the members of a society or</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>commit**t**ee**, for discussion or entertainment.*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>* "the early-dismissal policy will be discussed at our next meeting"*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>* synonyms: gathering, assembly, conference, congregation, convention,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>summit, forum, convocation, conclave, council, rally, caucus; More*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>* power lunch, power breakfast;*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>* informal get-together*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>* "he stood up to address the meeting"*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>* a gathering of people, especially Quakers, for worship.*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>* 2.*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>* a coming together of two or more people, by chance or arrangement.*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>* "he intrigued her on their first meeting"*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>* synonyms: consultation, audience, interview More*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Is Open Space a meeting?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel Mezick, President</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>New Technology Solutions Inc.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(203) 915 7248 (cell)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bio <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/">http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/</a>>. Blog</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/">http://newtechusa.net/blog/</a>>. Twitter</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/">http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/</a>>.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Examine my new book: The Culture Game</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/">http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/</a>>: Tools for the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Agile Manager.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Explore Agile Team Training</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/">http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/</a>> and 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