<div dir="ltr">I would say that open space is a themed meeting super-framework. Where people have meetings (with there chosen sub-framework) on topics in connection to our themed and use our common super-framework to organize the meetings and there outcomes.<br><br>In openness, <br>Kári the group coach<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 20 November 2014 20:59, Rosa Zubizarreta via OSList <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>slippery ground there, Daniel, talking about what OS "is"! :-) <br><br>however, on a very practical level, I will speak from my own experience,<br>about what OS can <i>do</i>:<br><br></div>to me, it offers a space where people can figure out <i>what </i>they <br>really want to meet about, and then meet with others who also care about the same thing.<br><br></div>So in that sense, it creates a space for <b><i>many</i></b> "meetings" to happen -- <br></div>the kind of "meeting", that people <b><i>want</i></b> to show up for!<br><br></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><i>Rosa Zubizarreta</i><div><i>Diapraxis: Facilitating Creative Collaboration<br><a href="http://www.diapraxis.com/" target="_blank">http://www.diapraxis.com</a></i></div><div><i><br></i></div></div></div></div><div><div class="h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 8:35 AM, via OSList <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div><span></span></div><div>I like your description of Open Space being a "way"....</div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">It can be a way in terms of a path, or a way in terms of a means, or a way in terms of a mindset.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hence, "the way that can be described is not the universal way, and the name that can be named is not the universal name." (Lao Tzu) </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sorry, I seem to have made it even more unclear....</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Chuni Li<br>  </div><div style="font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">  <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> John Baxter via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Harold Shinsato <<a href="mailto:harold@shinsato.com" target="_blank">harold@shinsato.com</a>>; World wide Open Space Technology email list <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 20, 2014 12:22 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OSList] Is Open Space a meeting?<br> </font> </div><div><div> <div><br><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">I can tell you if a meeting is Open Space (though there are plenty of grey examples), but not if Open Space is a meeting.</div><div style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">In my personal lingo, Open Space is a way of being together, not a whole package that describes an event.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">You can hold meetings in Open Space, you can hold gatherings in Open Space, you can hold conferences in Open Space...  you can do any of these things in any other way... and you can have Open Space in any myriad forms of 'gathering' too.</div><div style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">My response feels unclear, though it was perfectly clear before I wrote it, I promise...  Hopefully it comes out okay at your end.</div><div style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">Cheers</div></div><div><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><font face="'trebuchet ms', sans-serif" color="#663300"><b><i>John Baxter</i></b></font></div><div style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><i>Cocreation Consultant & ​Co​Create Adelaide Facilitator</i></div><div style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><a style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank">jsbaxter.com.au</a> | <a href="http://cocreateadl.com/" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank">CoCreateADL.com</a></div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><font face="'trebuchet ms', sans-serif" color="#444444">0405 447 829</font><div style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;display:inline"><font face="'trebuchet ms', sans-serif" color="#444444">​ | ​</font></div><span style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">@</span><a style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif" href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank">jsbaxter_</a></div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><i>Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about <b>City Grill</b>!</i></div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><i>Summary and links: <a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank">cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/</a></i></div></div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><br clear="none"></div></div></d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<br clear="none"><div>On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
  
    
  
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    Hi Daniel,<br clear="none">
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    I think we can count Open Space as a "meeting" by both definitions
    1. and 2. in your dictionary listing. But it doesn't fit well to me
    in the poetic sense. I prefer conference or gathering. Or even
    better, it is something that stands alone and apart, as its own sort
    of thing. So instead of saying "we're going to the open space
    meeting", we just say "we're going to the open space."<br clear="none">
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    In general, my sense of a "meeting" is something where we all meet
    in the same place at the same time and talk about the same things,
    *mostly* one at a time.<br clear="none">
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        Harold<div><div><br clear="none">
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    <div>On 11/18/14 5:29 AM, Daniel Mezick via
      OSList wrote:<br clear="none">
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      I have a simple question: Is Open Space a meeting?<br clear="none">
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      For purposes of discussion, let's use this definition of
      /meeting/:<br clear="none">
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      meet·ing<br clear="none">
      ˈmēdiNG/<br clear="none">
      noun<br clear="none">
      noun: meeting; plural noun: meetings<br clear="none">
      <br clear="none">
          1.<br clear="none">
          <b>an assembly of people, especially the members of a society
        or commit</b><b>t</b><b>ee</b><em>, for discussion or
        entertainment.</em><br clear="none">
      <em>    "the early-dismissal policy will be discussed at our next
        meeting"</em><br clear="none">
      <em>    synonyms: gathering, assembly, conference, congregation,
        convention, summit, forum, convocation, conclave, council,
        rally, caucus; More</em><br clear="none">
      <em>    power lunch, power breakfast;</em><br clear="none">
      <em>    informal get-together</em><br clear="none">
      <em>    "he stood up to address the meeting"</em><br clear="none">
      <em>        a gathering of people, especially Quakers, for
        worship.</em><br clear="none">
      <em>    2.</em><br clear="none">
      <em>   <b> a coming together of two or more people, by chance or
          arrangement.</b></em><br clear="none">
      <em>    "he intrigued her on their first meeting"</em><br clear="none">
      <em>    synonyms: consultation, audience, interview More</em><br clear="none">
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      Is Open Space a meeting?<br clear="none">
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      Daniel<br clear="none">
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      <div>-- <br clear="none">
        
        
        
        
        
        
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