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    Greeting Harrison, paul, John, Chris, <br>
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    I strongly agree that asking "why about how" is usually not very
    useful. <br>
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    That said, I see a pattern here I first noticed in the Agile
    community several years ago. People who reach the mastery level
    dispensed guidance that made perfect sense-- to other experts. Yet
    that same advice just wasn't readily digestible by the many
    "late-majority" newbies who were flooding in... and seeking some
    very basic guidance.<br>
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    For example, quite a few years ago the idea of "not doing estimates
    at all for software projects" began to be advocated by certain
    well-known Agile experts. While that concept is certainly
    well-grounded in reality and appropriate for very mature
    organizations, it did cause some less-knowledgeable people to
    stumble... as they struggled to understand exactly what these
    experts were actually talking about.<br>
    <br>
    The 1 Law and the 5 Principles do provide a very useful and
    accessible template... one that makes it easy for anyone with a
    "good head and a good heart" to jump in...and facilitate some open
    space with little or no experience. <br>
    <br>
    What's actually wrong with that? <br>
    <br>
    Are we actually experiencing the end of the early-majority phase
    with Open Space? <br>
    <br>
    Is the late-majority stage just getting underway?<br>
    <br>
    If so, a great many "late-majority" newbies will be here shortly.<br>
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    Daniel<br>
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    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/17/14 5:03 PM, Chris Corrigan via
      OSList wrote:<br>
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      I have opened space many many times without ever mentioning the
      four principles, the law or any other assorted wisdom associated
      with WHY the process works.
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      <div class="">My basic practice is to explain HOW we will organize
        ourselves, pointing out the tools we have to do so: paper,
        markers, bulletin board.</div>
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      <div class="">I talk about passion and responsibility “Please only
        post a topic you will personally show up for…” and I mention the
        freedom of choosing and moving.  </div>
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      <div class="">That is all that people need to get into Open Space.
         I’m not sure the principles or the law or anything else are
        necessary pre-conditions for the appearance and deployment of
        Open Space in a meeting.  I think they help explain what is
        happening, and I think they help people let go of control a
        little.  </div>
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      <div class="">All of us as facilitators would do well to remember
        that people are not coming to a meeting to be wowed by a process
        that you personally love.  They are coming to get work done.
         And so it behooves us to put a lid on our passions for the
        mechanics of the process and simply open space so that work can
        get done.  Later on you can reflect on WHY it happened like
        that.</div>
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      <div class="">As for the idea that OST is mainstream, well perhaps
        not yet.  But within the world of people who think a lot about
        this sort of thing it is widely known.  I feel like these days
        people call and ask about OST having experienced it whereas in
        the 1990s and early 200s people were calling because it seemed
        like a good idea, but they had never experienced it.  So not
        mainstream per se, but widely accepted and known in a small part
        of the world.</div>
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      <div class="">At any rate it has been a long time since I have
        asked the question at the start of a meeting and seen zero hands
        go up.  There seems to be at least one person who knows Open
        Space.  </div>
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      <div class="">Whether we use the original instructions or
        modifications or innovations, whatever you do, do it very very
        well.  Be very conscious, model good leadership and never stop
        embodying invitation.  Lots of people have witnessed poorly
        planned Open Spaces run by facilitators who are too nervous to
        let go of their control of it.  We all owe it to our clients and
        participants to meet their needs well with a process that helps
        them get unlocked from the stuck places they get into.</div>
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      <div class="">Here’s my book again for you to download.  I hope it
        inspires your practice.</div>
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      <div class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://www.archive.org/details/TheTaoOfHoldingSpace"
          class="">The Tao of Holding Space</a></div>
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      <div class="">Chris </div>
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            <div class="">On Nov 14, 2014, at 11:09 PM, John Baxter via
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              wrote:</div>
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                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
                  ms,sans-serif;color:#444444">Nice reflection Harrison.</div>
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                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
                  ms,sans-serif;color:#444444">You've unfortunately
                  created too many loose ends to inspire a neat reply. 
                  So here is a messy one.</div>
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                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
                  ms,sans-serif;color:#444444">Regards the simplest
                  recipe for Open Space, to what degree have the Law and
                  N Principles (and the animals) been critically
                  tested?  To be honest, these have never really
                  resonated for me and I've always used a different
                  variation each time searching for something that feels
                  right (and no longer than it needs to be).</div>
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                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
                  ms,sans-serif;color:#444444">I think it's a long bow
                  to describe Open Space as mainstream, or anywhere near
                  it.  It has spread to all corners of the globe
                  perhaps, but it is still the System A alternative,
                  islands within a System B world.  I would hazard 90%
                  of those who have been to conferences and meetings and
                  like gatherings have not heard of it... (speaking at a
                  conference on cocreation and placemaking recently, I
                  requested a hands-up and had a whole TWO of hundreds
                  confess to acquaintance)</div>
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                  ms,sans-serif;color:#444444">and even if 90% had, I'm
                  sure less than 1% of the gatherings they attend are
                  consciously designed to unlock self organisation.</div>
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                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
                  ms,sans-serif;color:#444444">What you describe of the
                  permutations of the practice matches what I see
                  (though I'm too new to know differently), but I can't
                  see how this could be because of a tipping point as
                  the practice is mainstreamed.</div>
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                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
                  ms,sans-serif;color:#444444">Maybe that's just where I
                  participate.</div>
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                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
                  ms,sans-serif;color:#444444">Regards the permutations
                  and combinations... bring them on!  This thread could
                  quickly follow all sorts of rabbit holes on this one,
                  so I might save those thoughts for another day.</div>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 5:37
                  AM, paul levy via OSList <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a
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                      <div class="">The problem with sticking with
                        things is you might just end up stuck.</div>
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                      <div class="">Ho hum.</div>
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                            On 13 Nov 2014, at 18:14, Harrison Owen via
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">Open Space, in its
                                  “original” form is sparse simplicity
                                  to say the least. Ten to fifteen
                                  minutes introduction, and it is off
                                  the races, or in my case, off to take
                                  a nap. The evolution of this format
                                  followed a simple dictum: “Think of
                                  one more thing NOT to do.” Over time
                                  in my practice I simply removed one
                                  more element. The first to go were so
                                  called, “warm up exercises.” But it
                                  went down from there. My surprise was
                                  that the less I did, the better it
                                  got... which seemed to be the exact
                                  opposite of many of my colleagues’
                                  experience with the methods and
                                  approaches they had created. Their
                                  simple guide books gave way to 400
                                  page Manuals with additions and
                                  extensions. Of course, there were
                                  times when people remarked to me that
                                  OS was so simple it couldn’t possibly
                                  work. But it did. Simply sit in a
                                  circle, create a bulletin board,
                                  acknowledge the 5 principles and the
                                  Law – and Go to Work! That’s it.
                                  That’s all.</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">I confess that I do
                                  love elegant simplicity, and so there
                                  is a large part of me that would stick
                                  with the “original” for that reason
                                  alone. To this may be added the fact
                                  that this “elegant simplicity”
                                  apparently violated essentially all
                                  the principles and practices of
                                  management that I knew about. To some
                                  extent this was a source of no small
                                  amount of embarrassment, for after all
                                  when what you see, do, and think is at
                                  odds with the Received Wisdom there
                                  are obvious questions about your grasp
                                  of reality. But, the disparity between
                                  what I was witnessing and what  (I was
                                  told) I should be experiencing has led
                                  to a marvelous quest into the strange
                                  new world of self organizing systems.
                                  Rich and rewarding indeed.</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">Now it seems that
                                  the world is changing (or at least our
                                  perception of that world) such that
                                  the strange environment of self
                                  organization is no longer so strange.
                                  What appeared odd, counter-intuitive,
                                  impossible is now almost mainstream.
                                  Not quite but getting there. And if
                                  so, perhaps it is now time to let go
                                  of that old “elegant simplicity” in
                                  all of its appealing purity... and
                                  plunge into the marvelous world of
                                  combinations and permutations. And why
                                  not? It could be a lot of fun.</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">I can see the
                                  possibilities, but I doubt seriously I
                                  would change. Senile sentimentality
                                  for sure, AND I actually have another
                                  concern which I think may be
                                  determinative. I suspect that OST
                                  (simple version) may be the best
                                  Training Program going when it comes
                                  to the introduction of folks to the
                                  High Arts of navigating a self
                                  organizing world. And best of all it
                                  is Experiential Learning from the
                                  start. Training and Doing are
                                  absolutely united. It is not talking
                                  about self organization it is being
                                  intentionally in that mode. And any
                                  added complexity/parallel program will
                                  tend to obscure the central mind
                                  bending fact – It’s happening all by
                                  itself. </p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">We have talked
                                  about this “ training” function
                                  before, usually under the heading of
                                  Chris Corrigan’s notion of Training
                                  Wheels. That is definitely good start,
                                  but only a start. We can do more, and
                                  it could be a real kick. </p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">So I plan to stick
                                  with the original – with the hope and
                                  intent that lots of new people will
                                  drop by to experience the incredible,
                                  productive freedom of losing control,
                                  and then come to understand that it is
                                  actually their birthright. They only
                                  have to claim it.</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">Harrison</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">Winter Address</p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">7808 River Falls
                                  Drive</p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">Potomac, MD 20854</p>
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