<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Wonderful! Thanks a lot for your comments!!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Dan, Outdoctrination is just great! there's so much in that little experiment. Brilliant!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Tricia, if you start doing something around such things count me in :)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Manuel</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-11-13 16:03 GMT+01:00 Royle, Karl via OSList <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>You might also be interested in Jesse Schell’s take on ugly beautiful education… <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tg55pdNMxw" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tg55pdNMxw</a></div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Thursday, 13 November 2014 14:53<br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [OSList] How to escape education's death valley<br>
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<div>Thanks for sharing - I am totally with you! Love Ken Robinson's message and once I found Open Space so an immediate connection!</div>
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<div>Do a google for "unschooling" and you will see some open space education in action ;) </div>
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<div>For another like-minded perspective, check out John Taylor Gatto's book, <u>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Underground_History_of_American_Education" target="_blank">Underground History of American Education</a></u> - I suspect it would apply to many other "modern" countries:)</div>
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<div>I am a huge proponent of bringing this mentality to education and hope to do something with this in one of my lifetimes :) </div>
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Yes, and you may have seen the "hole in the wall" video, where kids in slums in India self-organize around learning, without any supervision at all. "Explainer" roles emerge, and the thing advances beautifully. Without any adults....(TED talk...)<br>
<a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_shows_how_kids_teach_themselves?language=en" target="_blank">http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_shows_how_kids_teach_themselves?language=en</a><br>
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The title of the talk is "Outdoctrination", skip to 6:30 it gets really good there.<br>
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See also: a confirmation of "High Play"<br>
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for those of you who don't know Ken Robinson I'd like to invite you to take some time on this video <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX78iKhInsc" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX78iKhInsc</a>. I see lots of connections with open space
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To tell you my person opinion, I am so much into Open space that I would push the education system even further, where children could apply the law of two feet beautifully and creatively and let them go where their interests push them. But I guess we have to
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Anyway there is some good thoughts about control and learning that are worth listening to. and most of all it's fun. enjoy it!</div>
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