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    Hi Michael, Hi Chris,<br>
    <br>
    Thank you both, for your kind attention and responses to my post on
    public vs. private Open Space events. Both of your responses are
    interesting, especially your subsequent conversation. I'm learning a
    lot and continue to learn, as a result of doing experiments.<br>
    <br>
    Thanks again, with kind regards,<br>
    Daniel<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/17/14 6:58 PM, Michael Herman
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">one of my favorite stories, too, chris.  here's
        some of the detail, from my website.  some of the links might be
        dead, but the story is a good one.  and it was totally open,
        public.  he (vancouver, bc) and i (chicago) worked with a
        blogger in texas to set it up.  we were about 40 people at the
        first event, but we touched many more, in various organizations
        and networks.  the proceedings were posted online (still are,
        actually) during the event, so definitely weren't late!  i can
        think of at least two others from the list here who
        participated.  
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        <div>the last line of this story reminds me of another dimension
          of public vs. private, that the public events can be a lot
          harder to track.  it's not that action isn't there, it's that
          it takes place in a more diffused way and/or in a larger
          space.  
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            <div><span
                style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
                Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px">...began
                with the </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.michaelherman.com/wordpress/projects/%E2%80%9C/givingconference%22"
                style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(153,0,0);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">GivingConference</a><span
                style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
                Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px">,
                initiated with Phil Cubeta at </span><a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.michaelherman.com/wordpress/projects/%E2%80%9Chttp://www.gifthub.org%22"
                style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(153,0,0);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">GiftHub</a><span
                style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
                Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px">, which
                brought together philanthropists, weblog publishers,
                financial advisors, and community organizers. A core
                group then moved to </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.michaelherman.com/wordpress/projects/%E2%80%9Chttp://www.omidyar.net%22"
                style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(153,0,0);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">OmidyarNetwork</a><span
                style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
                Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px"> and
                convened a number of O.net members summits. Some of the
                people at the first of those summits went on to
                organize </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.michaelherman.com/wordpress/projects/%E2%80%9Chttp://www.recentchangescamp.org%22"
                style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(153,0,0);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">RecentChangesCamp</a><span
                style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
                Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px">, which
                connected software technologists and community leaders
                and activists (see </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.michaelherman.com/cgi/wiki.cgi?OregonianNewspaper"
                style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(153,0,0);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">OregonianNewspaper</a><span
                style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
                Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px">). All
                of these summits have been 3-day meetings, attended by
                40-120 people, and run completely in </span><a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.michaelherman.com/cgi/wiki.cgi?OpenSpaceTechnology"
                style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(153,0,0);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">OpenSpace</a><span
                style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
                Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px">. At
                least three new conferences are now being planned for
                2006. </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.michaelherman.com/wordpress/projects/%E2%80%9Chttp://giving.typepad.com/theworldwewant/2006/05/open_letter_to_.html%E2%80%9D"
                style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(153,0,0);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">Update
                May 2006</a><span
                style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
                Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px">. </span><a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.tedernst.com/"
                style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(153,0,0);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">Ted
                Ernst</a><span
                style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
                Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px">facilitated
                another in this lineage, O.net Uganda, 2007 and later
                introduced WikiSym to meeting in </span><a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.michaelherman.com/wordpress/projects/%E2%80%9C/cgi/wiki.cgi?OpenSpaceTechnology%22"
                style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(153,0,0);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">OpenSpace</a><span
                style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
                Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px">.
                Theresa Williamson took </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.michaelherman.com/wordpress/projects/%E2%80%9C/cgi/wiki.cgi?OpenSpaceTechnology%22"
                style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(153,0,0);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">OpenSpace</a><span
                style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
                Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px"> back to
                her work running </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.michaelherman.com/wordpress/projects/%E2%80%9Chttp://www.catcomm.org%22"
                style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(153,0,0);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">CatalyticCommunities</a><span
                style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
                Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px"> in Rio
                de Janeiro. </span><strong
                style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">UPDATE
                2011:</strong><span
                style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
                Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px"> See</span><a
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href="http://www.michaelherman.com/wordpress/projects/%E2%80%9Chttp://www.recentchangescamp.org%22"
                style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(153,0,0);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">RecentChangesCamp</a><span
                style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
                Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px"> which
                has been a great success story, in its own right, now
                having been repeated on three continents since 2005.
                Beyond this, results flowing from </span><a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.michaelherman.com/wordpress/projects/%E2%80%9Chttp://www.recentchangescamp.org%22"
                style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(153,0,0);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">RecentChangesCamp</a><span
                style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream
                Charter',serif;font-size:16px;line-height:24px">,
                WikiSym’s shift to Open Space, and other Giving
                Confernce beginnings get harder and harder to track and
                record — which is just great.</span><br>
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          --<br>
          <br>
          Michael Herman<br>
          Michael Herman Associates<br>
          312-280-7838 (mobile)<br>
          <br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://MichaelHerman.com"
            target="_blank">http://MichaelHerman.com</a><br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://OpenSpaceWorld.org"
            target="_blank">http://OpenSpaceWorld.org</a><br>
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        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Chris
          Corrigan <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:chris.corrigan@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.corrigan@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div style="word-wrap:break-word">Underlining this.  The
              Giving Conference, an open and public event in 2003 was
              transformational for the few dozen people who were there
              and launched scores of long term and sustained work that
              had a influence far beyond what we could have imagined. 
              It’s one of my best practice stories, and it was entirely
              a public thing.
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              <div>Also, an initiative I was a part of in 2011 to
                address addictions related stigma in the health care
                system was both open to the public and supported by an
                organization (The Vancouver Coastal Health Authority). 
                The weight and institutional support made it possible,
                supported many follow up experiments and sustained
                results.  the reliance on a single institution for this
                work also eventually compromised the results when the
                organization was restructured and the directorate that
                had initiated the work ceased to exist.  </div>
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              <div>Chris</div>
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                      <div>On Oct 17, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Michael Herman
                        via OSList <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"
                          target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
                        wrote:</div>
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                        <div dir="ltr">it's not about minimum
                          requirements for me, daniel.  many of the
                          things on your list show up in most of the
                          meetings/events i've facilitated, but it's all
                          very situation specific.  
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                          <div>what i heard you saying earlier, and
                            maybe i heard it wrong, was about
                            corporate/organization/private events that
                            have org structure and process and culture
                            behind them, adding momentum and to longer,
                            more resource-full meetings/events.  AND i
                            heard public events described as being
                            shorter and bringing fewer resources and
                            less common cultural momentum.   </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>if i heard those characterizations
                            accurately, i only wanted to say that they
                            can be teased apart.  generalizing on public
                            vs. private is not going to be as accurate
                            as generalizing on the quality of the
                            preparations, commitment, energy... shall we
                            say... complexity, diversity, urgency and
                            passion.  yes, organizations have some ways
                            of whipping up these conditions, but they
                            also have ways of damping them down.  energy
                            and resources in communities can be more
                            diffused, but also very focused and
                            abundant.</div>
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                          <div>i'm just saying that just cuz it's
                            public, you can't assume than it's shorter,
                            lower quality and that the proceedings won't
                            be out when promised.  that can happen in
                            orgs, same as anywhere else.  and long, high
                            quality, on-time and ongoing work is very
                            possible in open, emergent community events.
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                            --<br>
                            <br>
                            Michael Herman<br>
                            Michael Herman Associates<br>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="tel:312-280-7838"
                              value="+13122807838" target="_blank">312-280-7838</a>
                            (mobile)<br>
                            <br>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://michaelherman.com/"
                              target="_blank">http://MichaelHerman.com</a><br>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://openspaceworld.org/"
                              target="_blank">http://OpenSpaceWorld.org</a><br>
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                          <div class="h5">On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:38
                            PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <span
                              dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"
                                target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                              <div class="h5"> Hi Michael,<br>
                                <br>
                                I'm confused now, and so I believe I am
                                about to learn something new here...
                                I'll know by your answers to these
                                questions:<br>
                                <br>
                                What are the minimum essentials of Open
                                Space structure? For example, are the
                                following elements necessary at all?<span><br>
                                  <br>
                                  <ol>
                                    <li>Sponsor</li>
                                    <li>Theme<br>
                                    </li>
                                    <li>Invitation in advance, referring
                                      to Theme<br>
                                    </li>
                                    <li>Opening Circle</li>
                                    <li>Facilitator</li>
                                    <li>Explanation of the 1Law/
                                      5Principles</li>
                                    <li>Posters</li>
                                    <li>Closing Circle</li>
                                    <li>Timely Proceedings</li>
                                    <li>Sponsor commitment to follow
                                      though on Proceedings</li>
                                  </ol>
                                  <br>
                                  If these are not essential to
                                  structure, why not? If so, why so?<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Thanks for your help! Very Eager to
                                  hear your (hopefully <i>detailed</i>)
                                  answers!<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Daniel<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <div>On 10/17/14 1:27 PM, Michael
                                    Herman wrote:<br>
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                                <div class="h5">No. I'm saying the
                                  setting, context, culture doesn't
                                  matter so much. The structure, setup
                                  and commitment matter. I'm saying
                                  don't assume that public gatherings
                                  aren't capable of having real impact.
                                  And of course
                                  corporate/organizational/private isn't
                                  any guarantee of impact and follow<span></span>through. <span><br>
                                    <br>
                                    On Friday, October 17, 2014, Daniel
                                    Mezick <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:dan@newtechusa.net"
                                      target="_blank">dan@newtechusa.net</a>>



                                    wrote:<br>
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                                    <div class="h5"><span> Hi Michael,<br>
                                        <br>
                                        I hear you, saying: <br>
                                        <br>
                                        "I've seen very loose corporate
                                        add-on events" <br>
                                        <br>
                                        ..and then I also hear you
                                        saying:<br>
                                        <br>
                                        I've seen...very productive and
                                        long-lived action (spanning
                                        years and continents) come from
                                        open public conferences. <br>
                                        <br>
                                        I do not hear you saying this:<br>
                                        <br>
                                        "I've seen very loose corporate
                                        add-on events generate very
                                        productive and long-lived action
                                        spanning years" <br>
                                        <br>
                                        I wonder if you are saying this.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Daniel<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <div>On 10/17/14 10:15 AM,
                                          Michael Herman wrote:<br>
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                                      <div class="h5">Not sure the
                                        differences you articulate have
                                        anything to do with public and
                                        private, Daniel. It's about the
                                        different structures.  I've
                                        seen very loose corporate add-on
                                        events and very productive and
                                        long-lived action (spanning
                                        years and continents) come from
                                        open public conferences. So id
                                        say structure matters much more
                                        than setting.  </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div class="h5"><span><br>
                                            <br>
                                            On Friday, October 17, 2014,
                                            Daniel Mezick via OSList
                                            <<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>

                                            wrote:<br>
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                                                Greetings Christine, <br>
                                                <br>
                                                Thanks for your detailed
                                                reply. I must admit, I
                                                have no experience
                                                whatsoever with doing
                                                quasi-public OST events
                                                arranged for guilds,
                                                industry-associations
                                                and the like. I'm
                                                clueless! <br>
                                                <br>
                                                As such, my opinion does
                                                not have much (if any)
                                                validity about those use
                                                cases. I do have some
                                                theories however, and I
                                                hope I can ask some
                                                questions about OST for
                                                guilds & industry
                                                associations...<br>
                                                <br>
                                                I see it like this:<br>
                                                <br>
                                                (1) At one extreme end
                                                of the spectrum, there
                                                is the very private,
                                                business-org-specific
                                                event. A kind of
                                                big-family system.<br>
                                                <br>
                                                (2) At the other
                                                extreme, there is the
                                                totally public
                                                conference that anyone
                                                can attend, if they pay
                                                the money... <br>
                                                <ol>
                                                  <ul>
                                                    <li>It is an event
                                                      that has some Open
                                                      Space of varying
                                                      quality, in 1/2
                                                      day, full day or
                                                      multiple day
                                                      formats. <br>
                                                    </li>
                                                    <li>It may of may
                                                      not have a
                                                      Sponsor, it may of
                                                      may not have
                                                      Proceedings. It
                                                      may or may not
                                                      have posters on
                                                      the wall. If it
                                                      has Proceedings at
                                                      all, they are
                                                      often late.</li>
                                                    <li>"Agile"
                                                      conferences are
                                                      commonly at found
                                                      at this end of the
                                                      range.</li>
                                                  </ul>
                                                </ol>
                                                <br>
                                                My theory is that
                                                quasi-public OST events
                                                for and with guilds,
                                                industry associations
                                                and the like lie
                                                somewhere in the middle
                                                of these two extremes.
                                                And I can certainly
                                                imagine (theorize) how
                                                these events take on the
                                                look, feel, tone, temp
                                                and flavor of the very
                                                private,
                                                business-org-specific
                                                event. They might even
                                                effectively BE private
                                                events. It's not like
                                                anyone with the fee (if
                                                any) can just waltz into
                                                the meeting right? <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                And so, for now, I want
                                                to set these
                                                quasi-public OST events
                                                aside, and/or
                                                characterize them as
                                                private events. Is that
                                                OK? <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                And so, referring to (1)
                                                and (2) above, I
                                                continue to see very
                                                huge differences between
                                                these two ways to use
                                                Open Space. <br>
                                                <br>
                                                Like, the difference
                                                between Night and Day. <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                Here's one of those very
                                                striking differences: in
                                                public-conference events
                                                where OST is an add-on
                                                in 1/2 or full day
                                                formats, getting good
                                                Proceedings is
                                                difficult. Or
                                                impossible. The
                                                Proceedings are
                                                typically late and
                                                poorly formatted, or
                                                more commonly: <i>non-existent.</i>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                Yet inside private
                                                events, you can't pull
                                                the people off the task
                                                of Proceedings creation.
                                                The task attracts them
                                                like a magnet. They
                                                typically wave off any
                                                offers of help and take
                                                an absolutely huge
                                                interest in the
                                                Proceedings generation.
                                                They rivet on it. <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                And this is just one
                                                example. There are many
                                                more BIG differences.
                                                And so I continue to
                                                assert that for
                                                public-conference events
                                                where OST is a full day
                                                or 1/2 day add-on, a
                                                Barcamp or Unconference
                                                can and does get
                                                equivalent, similar,
                                                as-good results. <br>
                                                <br>
                                                Stated another way,
                                                Barcamp and/or
                                                Unconference can never
                                                do what Open Space does
                                                for organizations. And
                                                that's because Open
                                                Space is optimized for
                                                enabling "development
                                                and transformation in
                                                organizations. "<br>
                                                <br>
                                                And those other two
                                                aren't. <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                Daniel<br>
                                                <br>
                                                PS I realize some
                                                public, paid, Agile
                                                conferences that feature
                                                all-day Open Space do a
                                                very good job with
                                                Proceedings. Yet this is
                                                clearly the exception,
                                                and not the rule where
                                                Agile conferences are
                                                concerned. <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <div>On 10/15/14 11:43
                                                  AM, Christine Whitney
                                                  Sanchez wrote:<br>
                                                </div>
                                              </span></div>
                                          </div>
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                                            <div>
                                              <div class="h5"> Daniel
                                                and all,
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>In my experience,
                                                  public events have the
                                                  same buzz and
                                                  meaningful results as
                                                  an in-organization
                                                  OST.  I’ve
                                                  facilitated a number
                                                  of them that were
                                                  sponsored by a group
                                                  of organizations in
                                                  the community.  For
                                                  instance, <a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/" target="_blank">Vibrant
                                                    Phoenix</a>, was a
                                                  very productive
                                                  economic development
                                                  OST, sponsored by two
                                                  mayors of large
                                                  municipalities and
                                                  several local
                                                  businesses.  One of
                                                  the business sponsors
                                                  agreed to be the
                                                  contact for folks who
                                                  wanted to take their
                                                  â€œactionable ideasâ€
                                                  to the next level. 
                                                  However, there was no
                                                  budget and no
                                                  infrastructure to
                                                  really keep folks
                                                  connected the the
                                                  ideas they cared the
                                                  most about. Â </div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>This is where the
                                                  public open spaces
                                                  generally fall
                                                  short.  Because the
                                                  ongoing action is not
                                                  the core mission of
                                                  any of these
                                                  organizations, it is
                                                  hoped that the
                                                  participants will
                                                  self-organize going
                                                  forward.  With very
                                                  few exceptions, this
                                                  does not happen.  I
                                                  believe that
                                                  sponsorship for the
                                                  work after the OST is
                                                  what is called for.</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>The <a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work"
                                                    target="_blank">Collective
                                                    Impact</a> model
                                                  speaks to this. 
                                                  It’s nothing new,
                                                  really, but does
                                                  represent a simple way
                                                  to talk about the
                                                  necessary conditions
                                                  for sustaining
                                                  collective action.  I
                                                  now include my version
                                                  of this model when I
                                                  talk with potential
                                                  sponsors to shine the
                                                  light beyond the
                                                  meeting so that we can
                                                  discuss their
                                                  intentions for
                                                  providing backbone
                                                  support for
                                                  self-organized action
                                                  going forward.</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>I especially love
                                                  public Open Space
                                                  events and look
                                                  forward to working
                                                  with sponsors who see
                                                  the meeting as merely
                                                  the first small step
                                                  in collaborative
                                                  action.  There is so
                                                  much potential!</div>
                                                <div> </div>
                                              </div>
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                                            <div>
                                              <div><span><br>
                                                </span></div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div class="h5"><span>
                                                      <span>Warm wishes
                                                        from a sunny
                                                        autumn morning
                                                        in the
                                                        rain-greened
                                                        desert,</span><br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <span>Christine</span><br>
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                                                        <span>Christine
                                                          Whitney
                                                          Sanchez, M.C.</span></span></span>
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                                                      <div>On Oct 15,
                                                        2014, at 6:33
                                                        AM, Daniel
                                                        Mezick via
                                                        OSList <<a
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                                                        wrote:</div>
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                                                          Greetings To
                                                          All,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I notice that
                                                          there are many
                                                          big
                                                          differences
                                                          between
                                                          public-conference-type
                                                          OST events,
                                                          and OST events
                                                          arranged for
                                                          organizations.
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Do you also
                                                          notice this?
                                                          Maybe I am
                                                          imagining
                                                          this....just
                                                          making stuff
                                                          up...<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          ...maybe not.
                                                          In many key
                                                          dimensions, I
                                                          experience
                                                          these
                                                          differences as
                                                          striking. Even
                                                          disturbing.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          And so I have
                                                          been poking
                                                          around inside
                                                          the GUIDE (3rd
                                                          edition) and I
                                                          notice that,
                                                          in some spots,
                                                          the
                                                          implication is
                                                          that the
                                                          discussion is
                                                          about a public
                                                          event. Up to
                                                          page 18 for
                                                          example, this
                                                          implication is
                                                          clear:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <THE GUIDE
                                                          PAGE 18><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Working With
                                                          The Client if
                                                          you ARE NOT
                                                          the Sponsor<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          "To this point
                                                          I have assumed
                                                          that you (the
                                                          reader) will
                                                          be the sponsor
                                                          and
                                                          facilitator of
                                                          the Open
                                                          Space, and
                                                          therefore <b><i>it

                                                          is your
                                                          decision as to
                                                          whether or not
                                                          to proceed</i></b>...(<i>emphasis
                                                          added.</i>)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </THE GUIDE
                                                          PAGE 18><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          My current
                                                          belief is that
                                                          having the
                                                          same person in
                                                          the Sponsor
                                                          role **and**
                                                          the
                                                          Facilitator
                                                          role is
                                                          probably a
                                                          very bad idea
                                                          for an OST
                                                          event <i>inside
                                                          an
                                                          organization</i>.
                                                          For the
                                                          typical
                                                          public-conference
                                                          event on the
                                                          other hand,
                                                          this seems to
                                                          work just
                                                          fine. Kinda
                                                          like a Barcamp
                                                          or
                                                          Unconference....<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Another
                                                          current belief
                                                          I hold is that
                                                          OST is the
                                                          essential tool
                                                          for creating
                                                          "Development
                                                          and
                                                          Transformation
                                                          in
                                                          Organizations".
                                                          It is best
                                                          suited for use
                                                          in
                                                          organizations.
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          It is
                                                          interesting to
                                                          note how the
                                                          Barcamp and/or
                                                          "Unconference"
                                                          formats seem
                                                          to get the
                                                          same or
                                                          as-good
                                                          results as
                                                          Open Space, in
                                                          the public
                                                          conference
                                                          setting. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Not so inside
                                                          organizations!
                                                          In fact, as of
                                                          now, I don't
                                                          think Barcamp
                                                          or
                                                          Unconference
                                                          has any chance
                                                          whatsoever at
                                                          being
                                                          effective in
                                                          bringing about
                                                          Development
                                                          and
                                                          Transformation
                                                          in
                                                          Organizations
                                                          the way Open
                                                          Space can.
                                                          Something
                                                          about the
                                                          Sponsor?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Daniel<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                        </span>
                                                        <div><span>-- <br>
                                                          <p>Daniel
                                                          Mezick,
                                                          President</p>
                                                          <p>New
                                                          Technology
                                                          Solutions Inc.</p>
                                                          <p><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%28203%29%20915%207248" value="+12039157248" target="_blank">(203)
                                                          915 7248</a>
                                                          (cell)</p>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <p><span><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/" target="_blank">Bio</a></span><span>.
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/" target="_blank"><span>Blog</span></a>.
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/" target="_blank"><span>Twitter</span></a>.<span> </span></span></p>
                                                          <p><span>Examine
                                                          my new book:<span> 
                                                          </span><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/"
                                                          target="_blank"><span>The
                                                          Culture Game </span></a></span><span>:
                                                          Tools for the
                                                          Agile Manager</span><span>.</span></p>
                                                          <span>
                                                          <p>Explore
                                                          Agile Team <a
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target="_blank"><span>Training</span></a> and <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                                          target="_blank"><span>Coaching.</span></a></p>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <p>Explore the
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                                                  <p>Daniel Mezick,
                                                    President</p>
                                                  <p>New Technology
                                                    Solutions Inc.</p>
                                                  <p><a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%28203%29%20915%207248" value="+12039157248" target="_blank">(203)
                                                      915 7248</a>
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                                                <p><span><a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/" target="_blank">Bio</a></span><span>.
                                                    <a
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href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/" target="_blank"><span>Blog</span></a>.
                                                    <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/" target="_blank"><span>Twitter</span></a>.<span> </span></span></p>
                                                <p><span>Examine my new
                                                    book:<span>  </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                      href="http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/"
                                                      target="_blank"><span>The
                                                        Culture Game </span></a></span><span>:
                                                    Tools for the Agile
                                                    Manager</span><span>.</span></p>
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                                                  <p>Explore Agile Team
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                                                    and <a
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href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/"
                                                      target="_blank"><span>Coaching.</span></a></p>
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                                          Michael Herman<br>
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                                      <div><span>-- <br>
                                          <p>Daniel Mezick, President</p>
                                          <p>New Technology Solutions
                                            Inc.</p>
                                          <p><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="tel:%28203%29%20915%207248"
                                              value="+12039157248"
                                              target="_blank">(203) 915
                                              7248</a> (cell)</p>
                                        </span>
                                        <p><span><a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/"
                                              target="_blank">Bio</a></span><span>.
                                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/"
                                              target="_blank"><span>Blog</span></a>.
                                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/"
                                              target="_blank"><span>Twitter</span></a>.<span> </span></span></p>
                                        <p><span>Examine my new book:<span> 
                                            </span><a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/"
                                              target="_blank"><span>The
                                                Culture Game </span></a></span><span>:
                                            Tools for the Agile Manager</span><span>.</span></p>
                                        <span>
                                          <p>Explore Agile Team <a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/"
                                              target="_blank"><span>Training</span></a>
                                            and <a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/"
                                              target="_blank"><span>Coaching.</span></a></p>
                                        </span>
                                        <p>Explore the <a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/"
                                            target="_blank"><span>Agile
                                              Boston </span></a>Community.<span> </span></p>
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                                  -- <br>
                                  Â <span><br>
                                    --<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Michael Herman<br>
                                    Michael Herman Associates<br>
                                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="tel:312-280-7838"
                                      value="+13122807838"
                                      target="_blank">312-280-7838</a>
                                    (mobile)<br>
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                                      href="http://michaelherman.com/"
                                      target="_blank">http://MichaelHerman.com</a><br>
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                                      href="http://openspaceworld.org/"
                                      target="_blank">http://OpenSpaceWorld.org</a><br>
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                                <div><span>-- <br>
                                    <p>Daniel Mezick, President</p>
                                    <p>New Technology Solutions Inc.</p>
                                    <p><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="tel:%28203%29%20915%207248"
                                        value="+12039157248"
                                        target="_blank">(203) 915 7248</a>
                                      (cell)</p>
                                  </span>
                                  <p><span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/"
                                        target="_blank">Bio</a></span><span>.
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/"
                                        target="_blank"><span>Blog</span></a>.
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/"
                                        target="_blank"><span>Twitter</span></a>.<span> </span></span></p>
                                  <p><span>Examine my new book:<span> 
                                      </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/"
                                        target="_blank"><span>The
                                          Culture Game </span></a></span><span>:
                                      Tools for the Agile Manager</span><span>.</span></p>
                                  <span>
                                    <p>Explore Agile Team <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/"
                                        target="_blank"><span>Training</span></a>
                                      and <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/"
                                        target="_blank"><span>Coaching.</span></a></p>
                                  </span>
                                  <p>Explore the <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/"
                                      target="_blank"><span>Agile Boston
                                      </span></a>Community.<span> </span></p>
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