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Hi Michael,<br>
<br>
I'm confused now, and so I believe I am about to learn something new
here... I'll know by your answers to these questions:<br>
<br>
What are the minimum essentials of Open Space structure? For
example, are the following elements necessary at all?<br>
<br>
<ol>
<li>Sponsor</li>
<li>Theme<br>
</li>
<li>Invitation in advance, referring to Theme<br>
</li>
<li>Opening Circle</li>
<li>Facilitator</li>
<li>Explanation of the 1Law/ 5Principles</li>
<li>Posters</li>
<li>Closing Circle</li>
<li>Timely Proceedings</li>
<li>Sponsor commitment to follow though on Proceedings</li>
</ol>
<br>
If these are not essential to structure, why not? If so, why so?<br>
<br>
Thanks for your help! Very Eager to hear your (hopefully <i>detailed</i>)
answers!<br>
<br>
Daniel<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/17/14 1:27 PM, Michael Herman
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:CAD8j=QEsd3y3ZJBgS6yG264D9EJCRm4J9fWVtoSGo6t050QdPQ@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">No. I'm saying the setting, context, culture doesn't
matter so much. The structure, setup and commitment matter. I'm
saying don't assume that public gatherings aren't capable of
having real impact. And of course corporate/organizational/private
isn't any guarantee of impact and follow<span></span>through. <br>
<br>
On Friday, October 17, 2014, Daniel Mezick <<a
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wrote:<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi Michael,<br>
<br>
I hear you, saying: <br>
<br>
"I've seen very loose corporate add-on events" <br>
<br>
..and then I also hear you saying:<br>
<br>
I've seen...very productive and long-lived action (spanning
years and continents) come from open public conferences. <br>
<br>
I do not hear you saying this:<br>
<br>
"I've seen very loose corporate add-on events generate very
productive and long-lived action spanning years" <br>
<br>
I wonder if you are saying this.<br>
<br>
Daniel<br>
<br>
<div>On 10/17/14 10:15 AM, Michael Herman wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">Not sure the differences you
articulate have anything to do with public and private,
Daniel. It's about the different structures. I've seen
very loose corporate add-on events and very productive and
long-lived action (spanning years and continents) come from
open public conferences. So id say structure matters much
more than setting.Â
<div><br>
<br>
On Friday, October 17, 2014, Daniel Mezick via OSList <<a
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Greetings
Christine, <br>
<br>
Thanks for your detailed reply. I must admit, I have
no experience whatsoever with doing quasi-public OST
events arranged for guilds, industry-associations and
the like. I'm clueless! <br>
<br>
As such, my opinion does not have much (if any)
validity about those use cases. I do have some
theories however, and I hope I can ask some questions
about OST for guilds & industry associations...<br>
<br>
I see it like this:<br>
<br>
(1) At one extreme end of the spectrum, there is the
very private, business-org-specific event. A kind of
big-family system.<br>
<br>
(2) At the other extreme, there is the totally public
conference that anyone can attend, if they pay the
money... <br>
<ol>
<ul>
<li>It is an event that has some Open Space of
varying quality, in 1/2 day, full day or
multiple day formats. <br>
</li>
<li>It may of may not have a Sponsor, it may of
may not have Proceedings. It may or may not have
posters on the wall. If it has Proceedings at
all, they are often late.</li>
<li>"Agile" conferences are commonly at found at
this end of the range.</li>
</ul>
</ol>
<br>
My theory is that quasi-public OST events for and with
guilds, industry associations and the like lie
somewhere in the middle of these two extremes. And I
can certainly imagine (theorize) how these events take
on the look, feel, tone, temp and flavor of the very
private, business-org-specific event. They might even
effectively BE private events. It's not like anyone
with the fee (if any) can just waltz into the meeting
right? <br>
<br>
<br>
And so, for now, I want to set these quasi-public OST
events aside, and/or characterize them as private
events. Is that OK? <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
And so, referring to (1) and (2) above, I continue to
see very huge differences between these two ways to
use Open Space. <br>
<br>
Like, the difference between Night and Day. <br>
<br>
<br>
Here's one of those very striking differences: in
public-conference events where OST is an add-on in 1/2
or full day formats, getting good Proceedings is
difficult. Or impossible. The Proceedings are
typically late and poorly formatted, or more commonly:
<i>non-existent.</i> <br>
<br>
Yet inside private events, you can't pull the people
off the task of Proceedings creation. The task
attracts them like a magnet. They typically wave off
any offers of help and take an absolutely huge
interest in the Proceedings generation. They rivet on
it. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
And this is just one example. There are many more BIG
differences. And so I continue to assert that for
public-conference events where OST is a full day or
1/2 day add-on, a Barcamp or Unconference can and does
get equivalent, similar, as-good results. <br>
<br>
Stated another way, Barcamp and/or Unconference can
never do what Open Space does for organizations. And
that's because Open Space is optimized for enabling
"development and transformation in organizations. "<br>
<br>
And those other two aren't. <br>
<br>
<br>
Daniel<br>
<br>
PS I realize some public, paid, Agile conferences that
feature all-day Open Space do a very good job with
Proceedings. Yet this is clearly the exception, and
not the rule where Agile conferences are concerned. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 10/15/14 11:43 AM, Christine Whitney Sanchez
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"> Daniel and all,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>In my experience, public events have the same
buzz and meaningful results as an in-organization
OST. I’ve facilitated a number of them that
were sponsored by a group of organizations in the
community. For instance, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/"
target="_blank">Vibrant Phoenix</a>, was a very
productive economic development OST, sponsored by
two mayors of large municipalities and several
local businesses. One of the business sponsors
agreed to be the contact for folks who wanted to
take their “actionable ideas†to the next
level. However, there was no budget and no
infrastructure to really keep folks connected the
the ideas they cared the most about. Â </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This is where the public open spaces generally
fall short. Because the ongoing action is not
the core mission of any of these organizations, it
is hoped that the participants will self-organize
going forward. With very few exceptions, this
does not happen. I believe that sponsorship for
the work after the OST is what is called for.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work"
target="_blank">Collective Impact</a>Â model
speaks to this. It’s nothing new, really, but
does represent a simple way to talk about the
necessary conditions for sustaining collective
action. I now include my version of this model
when I talk with potential sponsors to shine the
light beyond the meeting so that we can discuss
their intentions for providing backbone support
for self-organized action going forward.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I especially love public Open Space events and
look forward to working with sponsors who see the
meeting as merely the first small step in
collaborative action. There is so much
potential!</div>
<div> </div>
<div>
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<div>On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Daniel Mezick
via OSList <<a moz-do-not-send="true">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
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Greetings To All,<br>
<br>
I notice that there are many big differences
between public-conference-type OST events,
and OST events arranged for organizations. <br>
<br>
Do you also notice this? Maybe I am
imagining this....just making stuff up...<br>
<br>
...maybe not. In many key dimensions, I
experience these differences as striking.
Even disturbing.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
And so I have been poking around inside the
GUIDE (3rd edition) and I notice that, in
some spots, the implication is that the
discussion is about a public event. Up to
page 18 for example, this implication is
clear:<br>
<br>
<br>
<THE GUIDE PAGE 18><br>
<br>
Working With The Client if you ARE NOT the
Sponsor<br>
<br>
"To this point I have assumed that you (the
reader) will be the sponsor and facilitator
of the Open Space, and therefore <b><i>it
is your decision as to whether or not to
proceed</i></b>...(<i>emphasis added.</i>)<br>
<br>
</THE GUIDE PAGE 18><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
My current belief is that having the same
person in the Sponsor role **and** the
Facilitator role is probably a very bad idea
for an OST event <i>inside an organization</i>.
For the typical public-conference event on
the other hand, this seems to work just
fine. Kinda like a Barcamp or
Unconference....<br>
<br>
<br>
Another current belief I hold is that OST is
the essential tool for creating "Development
and Transformation in Organizations". It is
best suited for use in organizations. <br>
<br>
It is interesting to note how the Barcamp
and/or "Unconference" formats seem to get
the same or as-good results as Open Space,
in the public conference setting. <br>
<br>
Not so inside organizations! In fact, as of
now, I don't think Barcamp or Unconference
has any chance whatsoever at being effective
in bringing about Development and
Transformation in Organizations the way Open
Space can. Something about the Sponsor?<br>
<br>
Daniel<br>
<br>
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