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Greetings Christine, <br>
<br>
Thanks for your detailed reply. I must admit, I have no experience
whatsoever with doing quasi-public OST events arranged for guilds,
industry-associations and the like. I'm clueless! <br>
<br>
As such, my opinion does not have much (if any) validity about those
use cases. I do have some theories however, and I hope I can ask
some questions about OST for guilds & industry associations...<br>
<br>
I see it like this:<br>
<br>
(1) At one extreme end of the spectrum, there is the very private,
business-org-specific event. A kind of big-family system.<br>
<br>
(2) At the other extreme, there is the totally public conference
that anyone can attend, if they pay the money... <br>
<ol>
<ul>
<li>It is an event that has some Open Space of varying quality,
in 1/2 day, full day or multiple day formats. <br>
</li>
<li>It may of may not have a Sponsor, it may of may not have
Proceedings. It may or may not have posters on the wall. If it
has Proceedings at all, they are often late.</li>
<li>"Agile" conferences are commonly at found at this end of the
range.</li>
</ul>
</ol>
<br>
My theory is that quasi-public OST events for and with guilds,
industry associations and the like lie somewhere in the middle of
these two extremes. And I can certainly imagine (theorize) how these
events take on the look, feel, tone, temp and flavor of the very
private, business-org-specific event. They might even effectively BE
private events. It's not like anyone with the fee (if any) can just
waltz into the meeting right? <br>
<br>
<br>
And so, for now, I want to set these quasi-public OST events aside,
and/or characterize them as private events. Is that OK? <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
And so, referring to (1) and (2) above, I continue to see very huge
differences between these two ways to use Open Space. <br>
<br>
Like, the difference between Night and Day. <br>
<br>
<br>
Here's one of those very striking differences: in public-conference
events where OST is an add-on in 1/2 or full day formats, getting
good Proceedings is difficult. Or impossible. The Proceedings are
typically late and poorly formatted, or more commonly: <i>non-existent.</i>
<br>
<br>
Yet inside private events, you can't pull the people off the task of
Proceedings creation. The task attracts them like a magnet. They
typically wave off any offers of help and take an absolutely huge
interest in the Proceedings generation. They rivet on it. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
And this is just one example. There are many more BIG differences.
And so I continue to assert that for public-conference events where
OST is a full day or 1/2 day add-on, a Barcamp or Unconference can
and does get equivalent, similar, as-good results. <br>
<br>
Stated another way, Barcamp and/or Unconference can never do what
Open Space does for organizations. And that's because Open Space is
optimized for enabling "development and transformation in
organizations. "<br>
<br>
And those other two aren't. <br>
<br>
<br>
Daniel<br>
<br>
PS I realize some public, paid, Agile conferences that feature
all-day Open Space do a very good job with Proceedings. Yet this is
clearly the exception, and not the rule where Agile conferences are
concerned. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/15/14 11:43 AM, Christine Whitney
Sanchez wrote:<br>
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Daniel and all,
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<div>In my experience, public events have the same buzz and
meaningful results as an in-organization OST. I’ve facilitated
a number of them that were sponsored by a group of organizations
in the community. For instance, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/">Vibrant
Phoenix</a>, was a very productive economic development OST,
sponsored by two mayors of large municipalities and several
local businesses. One of the business sponsors agreed to be the
contact for folks who wanted to take their “actionable ideas” to
the next level. However, there was no budget and no
infrastructure to really keep folks connected the the ideas they
cared the most about. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This is where the public open spaces generally fall short.
Because the ongoing action is not the core mission of any of
these organizations, it is hoped that the participants will
self-organize going forward. With very few exceptions, this
does not happen. I believe that sponsorship for the work after
the OST is what is called for.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work">Collective
Impact</a> model speaks to this. It’s nothing new, really,
but does represent a simple way to talk about the necessary
conditions for sustaining collective action. I now include my
version of this model when I talk with potential sponsors to
shine the light beyond the meeting so that we can discuss their
intentions for providing backbone support for self-organized
action going forward.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I especially love public Open Space events and look forward
to working with sponsors who see the meeting as merely the first
small step in collaborative action. There is so much potential!</div>
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<br>
I notice that there are many big differences between
public-conference-type OST events, and OST events arranged
for organizations. <br>
<br>
Do you also notice this? Maybe I am imagining this....just
making stuff up...<br>
<br>
...maybe not. In many key dimensions, I experience these
differences as striking. Even disturbing.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
And so I have been poking around inside the GUIDE (3rd
edition) and I notice that, in some spots, the implication
is that the discussion is about a public event. Up to page
18 for example, this implication is clear:<br>
<br>
<br>
<THE GUIDE PAGE 18><br>
<br>
Working With The Client if you ARE NOT the Sponsor<br>
<br>
"To this point I have assumed that you (the reader) will
be the sponsor and facilitator of the Open Space, and
therefore <b><i>it is your decision as to whether or not
to proceed</i></b>...(<i>emphasis added.</i>)<br>
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</THE GUIDE PAGE 18><br>
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<br>
My current belief is that having the same person in the
Sponsor role **and** the Facilitator role is probably a
very bad idea for an OST event <i>inside an organization</i>.
For the typical public-conference event on the other hand,
this seems to work just fine. Kinda like a Barcamp or
Unconference....<br>
<br>
<br>
Another current belief I hold is that OST is the essential
tool for creating "Development and Transformation in
Organizations". It is best suited for use in
organizations. <br>
<br>
It is interesting to note how the Barcamp and/or
"Unconference" formats seem to get the same or as-good
results as Open Space, in the public conference setting. <br>
<br>
Not so inside organizations! In fact, as of now, I don't
think Barcamp or Unconference has any chance whatsoever at
being effective in bringing about Development and
Transformation in Organizations the way Open Space can.
Something about the Sponsor?<br>
<br>
Daniel<br>
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