<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Of course ! It's the wonderful irony of "all" statements.</div><div><br></div><div>Paul <br><br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On 16 Oct 2014, at 22:43, Daniel Mezick via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/16/14 2:15 PM, paul levy via
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    <blockquote cite="mid:CAAnJsbAPBFxe6_MuCMMzpEYUg3eP1rA7-K4aPCDBSNk-iOgUHQ@mail.gmail.com" type="cite">I'd just venture to add a third to Harrison's first
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      <div><font><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> 1)
            All Systems are Open. 2) All Systems are self organizing.</span></font></div>
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      <div><font><span style>And 3. All "all statements" are possibly
            self-limiting</span></font></div>
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      <div><font><span style>Best regards</span></font></div>
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      <div><font><span style>Paul Levy</span></font></div>
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        On Thursday, 16 October 2014, Harrison Owen via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
        wrote:<br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">John
                  – Thank you, Thank you for all the rich stuff! Sort of
                  a Tidal Wave, but that’s when it gets fun, albeit a
                  tad difficult to keep track of the sundry bits and
                  pieces </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Picking
                  Just One:   “But I can't get past the feeling that <i>there
                    are lots of barriers to the openness of space, and
                    to self organisation</i>.” Absolutely. And if we
                  were to put that into the language of the trade
                  (Complexity Theorists and the like) we would be
                  talking about “system constraints.” But as I
                  understand it, that does not mean that Self
                  Organization is no longer operative. And in fact the
                  System Constraints are part and parcel of the process,
                  a very important part. I think it goes something like
                  this –</span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
                  have found myself coming to  two conclusions, or
                  better yet observations. 1) All Systems are Open. 2)
                  All Systems are self organizing. </span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">As
                  Open Systems, we, in all permutations of our “us-ness”
                  – businesses, countries, families, planets, etc) are
                  open to, and impacted by, all other systems. Sometimes
                  a lot, and sometimes a little, but in our cosmos there
                  is no safe, protected place. Everything is related to
                  everything else, and we are no exception. If true,
                  this has a number of implications. First of all the
                  environment in which we exist is so complex, fast
                  moving and inter-connected we can’t even think at that
                  level. Secondly, what you can’t even think about, you
                  can’t control. So the notion that somebody is actually
                  “in charge/in control” is not just a silly idea, it is
                  delusional. 3) System preservation/growth depends on
                  our  ability to navigate this environment. And it is a
                  good news/bad news situation. Sometimes the impacts
                  drive us in new and creative directions, and open up
                  new opportunities which are ours if we respond
                  appropriately. At other times the impacts drive us to
                  the wall, and it’s Game over. Another word is Death.
                  If this story is in any ways valid, it would seem like
                  Mission Impossible. And yet this story has seemingly
                  been going on for 13.7 Billion years and we are still
                  here to complain about it. How could that be?</span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">All
                  Systems are Self Organizing – Self Organization is in
                  fact the mechanism whereby we navigate the
                  environment, and all systems do it, I think. And when
                  they stop doing it, they disappear. Self Organization
                  is not the product of some CEO or executive committee.
                  After all, they really haven’t been around for all
                  that long. Self Organization is the product of the
                  total system in all of its aspects and bits and
                  pieces. How all that works has been a matter of
                  stunning discovery over the past 40 years or so. I
                  doubt we have it all right, but I do think we may have
                  the major elements of understanding in place. The
                  outline goes something like this – a) Steady State b)
                  Chaos c) A bifurcation to either dissipation (poof) or
                  reconstitution at new and higher levels of order. Of
                  course you have to fill in a lot of the blanks, and
                  there is a massive literature attempting to do just
                  that. But I do believe we have enough to get started
                  with some basic observations. It really is a Whole
                  System affair, in which all elements must work
                  together, and no element has an <i>a priori</i> claim
                  to centrality. In a business this could mean that the
                  dumb question of an intern could just open the doors
                  for the future. You just don’t know. But you do know
                  that an organization’s future directly relates to its
                  capacity to bring total system assets to bear on
                  emergent challenges and opportunities quickly and
                  effectively. It is always tempting to  try and “hedge
                  the bet” with some plan, policy or procedure, but it
                  worthwhile noting that the tighter (more constraining)
                  the plan, the greater the likelihood of failure. It’s
                  not that the plan was bad... but unfortunately the
                  challenge or opportunity came from a different
                  direction, and all our eggs were in one basket – the
                  wrong one. </span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">So
                  we have a very existential question – How do we assure
                  sufficient room (dare I say Space?) so that the
                  infinite elements of any organization may quickly and
                  effectively align to meet new challenges and
                  opportunities – recognizing in advance that we can
                  never know what will be required? </span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Open
                  Space Technology is just a bit player in all of this,
                  but good old OST can be useful none the less both as a
                  natural laboratory to explore what is going on, and
                  also as an effective intervention to encourage the
                  appearance of the elemental power of self
                  organization, particularly when it seems blocked and
                  constrained.  There are no guarantees of course, and
                  it may well be that The Organization’s time is now:
                  Game Over. But the chances of renewal are pretty good,
                  at least that has been my experience. And no matter
                  what, the magic sauce is not OST – but the power of
                  self organization. So you could say, just as a way of
                  speaking, “It’s all Open Space.” But that’s just a
                  joke, son. </span></p>
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                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Baxter via OSList<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:57 AM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Harrison Owen<br>
                    <b>Cc:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email
                    list<br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] Authority Distribution
                    in Open Space</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>I
                      have knots about empowerment, and the ubiquitous
                      openness of space.  These knots are about to
                      inspire a rant.</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>These
                      knots, I should start with, are not entirely the
                      result of this present discussion thread - it is
                      just this discussion that prompts me to speak.</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>I
                      think I understand Harrison, if you suggest that
                      self-organisation is more common than we
                      realise... if not ubiquitous, omnipresent, then at
                      least that we can fruitfully challenge the
                      assumption that formal and top-down organisation
                      dominates how things get done.</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>But
                      I can't get past the feeling that <i>there are
                        lots of barriers to the openness of space, and
                        to self organisation</i>.  Everywhere and all
                      the time.  In my recent work, mental barriers by
                      all involved about authority and role
                      relationships.  My personal barriers around trying
                      too hard to "empower".  My client's patronising
                      assumptions about the "capacity" and "maturity" of
                      "the sector".  Information asymmetries.</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>So
                      I get really conflicted when anyone starts saying
                      "well space is open all the time" (implication:
                      'so chill out cos there's nothing you need to
                      do').</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>I
                      am also conflicted about stepping back from the
                      goal of empowerment, as if everybody else needs to
                      just step into open space and take responsibility.</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>Yes
                      - many people don't realise the power that they
                      have.  (In my last project; nobody seemed to quite
                      buy into the fact that <i>they could directly
                        author the document that they were trying to
                        influence</i>.)</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>But
                      it is also patronising to suggest that empowerment
                      lies in just helping people to see how powerful
                      they are... because many people <i>don't</i> have
                      the power that we or they might like.  To suggest
                      that people have the power and just don't use
                      it... that effectively blames them for their
                      situation, and washes our hands of responsibility.</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>The
                      biggest barrier to group change I see time and
                      time again is authority figures who believe others
                      need to change, not themselves.  (Most commonly,
                      that their employees need to "be empowered", and
                      that they need to manage a culture change program
                      to get there... or better yet, that HR needs to
                      manage the change program, while we are busy
                      getting the real work done.)</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>I
                      don't pretend that empowerment is something that
                      can be done to other people (patronising), but I
                      do firmly believe that we all first need to look
                      to ourselves and what we need to do to play our
                      role making such a future possible.  And, in fact,
                      that <i>this is all that we can ever do</i>.</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>Maybe
                      the wisdom in what you say Harrison is that we do
                      this by focusing on respect first, as a productive
                      way to enable empowerment.</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>Maybe
                      I am picking on the wrong things and have
                      misunderstood them, and I apologise if I have been
                      critical.  But I also see a lot of things said
                      that make me uncomfortable, that knot me up. 
                      Again, most of these things are from my memory,
                      not the present discussion.  While my memory might
                      not be the best, I'm sure it is based on
                      something.</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>Thank
                      you all for your patience and for being in this
                      discussion</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#663300">John
                                Baxter</span></i></b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#444444">​</span></i><i><span style>Co</span></i><i><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#444444">​</span></i><i><span style>Create
                              Adelaide Facilitator, Director of
                              Realise consultancy</span></i><span style></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style><a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">CoCreateADL.com</span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1155cc">​</span></a> | <a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">jsbaxter.com.au</span></a></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#444444"><a href="tel:0405%20447%20829">0405 447 829</a></span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#444444">​
                              | ​</span><span style></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>@</span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_" target="_blank"><span style>jsbaxter_</span></a></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au" target="_blank">City Grill— An
                                  Election Forum More Magnificent Than
                                  Any Ever Seen</a>!</span></i></b><i><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">, <a href="x-apple-data-detectors://14">Saturday
                                18 October 2014</a><br>
                              Connect with your candidates, get your
                              voice heard by joining with others in your
                              community, and Influence the future of the
                              city</span></i><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 6:06 AM,
                    Harrison Owen <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hhowen@verizon.net');" target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote:</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">John
                          -- I’m rather curious what you meant by “The
                          overall project was more complicated than
                          OST?” My confusion comes in part from my
                          experience that complexity is actually an
                          essential precondition for OST, or more
                          exactly the effective operation of self
                          organization. The essential pre-conditions as
                          I have experienced the are: A Real business
                          issue (something that people really care
                          about). High levels of complexity such that no
                          single person or group has a prayer of
                          figuring it out. High levels of diversity in
                          terms of people and points of view. Lots of
                          passion and conflict. And a decision time of
                          yesterday (urgency). Given these 5 conditions,
                          self organization in the more formal setting
                          of OST or as a natural occurrence just seems
                          to happen... unless...And this may be the
                          point of problem... It is arbitrarily
                          constrained... which usually means that
                          somebody already has the plan/program/design
                          and they are just looking for buy-in or (worst
                          case) they are simply trying to sugar coat the
                          pill, and make it seem like the folks are
                          creating something, when in fact the cake is
                          already baked. </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">A
                          clue to the dilemma may be in the phrase, “I
                          struggled to help the client (the funding
                          body) to really 'empower'...” I know we talk a
                          lot about empowerment, but I have come to the
                          conclusion that it is really a red herring,
                          and most painfully so in those situations
                          where you actually try to do it. Sounds odd, I
                          guess, but think about it. If I empower
                          you...you are in my power. And the more I try
                          to empower you the worse it gets. Real
                          empowerment, in my book, is not an act that we
                          (or somebody) do, but an acknowledgement of a
                          pre-existing condition...you are powerful. Of
                          course I might encourage you a bit to be as
                          powerful as you are, but it is not something I
                          can give you. You must claim it for yourself.
                          Strange as it may seem, I find the notion of
                          “empowerment” to be just the opposite of that
                          fundament of effective working relationships
                          (or any relationship) RESPECT. And I suspect
                          that it is precisely here that the fickle
                          finger of fate is pointing to the critical
                          issue. </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Another
                          word that fits in here for me is
                          “Patronizing.” Everything may sound super
                          nice, and all the proper and correct words may
                          be spoken, but if the implication is that the
                          folks (participants) really do not have the
                          competence or ability to deal with the issues,
                          it is fairly predictable that they will not
                          bother to try. Or if they “try” it will be
                          pretty much of a pro forma situation. Sound
                          familiar?</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Harrison</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Winter
                          Address</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">7808
                          River Falls Drive</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Potomac,
                          MD 20854</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="tel:301-365-2093" target="_blank">301-365-2093</a></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Summer
                          Address</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="x-apple-data-detectors://18">189
                            Beaucaire Ave.</a></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Camden,
                          ME 04843</span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Websites</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://%20www.openspaceworld.com" target="_blank">www.openspaceworld.com</a></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">OSLIST
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                            OSList [mailto:<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org');" target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>]
                            <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Baxter via OSList<br>
                            <b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 13, 2014 2:41
                            AM<br>
                            <b>To:</b> Daniel Mezick<br>
                            <b>Cc:</b> World wide Open Space Technology
                            email list<br>
                            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] Authority
                            Distribution in Open Space</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>Hi
                                  Daniel.  Thanks for your considered
                                  response.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>I
                                  will try to keep my response in line
                                  with the topic.... but expect it may
                                  meander.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>The
                                  OST day I was preparing for has since
                                  come and gone.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>I
                                  decided in the end to least give OST a
                                  crack and see what happened.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>It
                                  didn't go very well; but it also went
                                  well enough (vis overall project
                                  goals, and client expectations), so I
                                  don't feel so bad about it... even if
                                  I had personally envisaged more.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>I
                                  am not one to worry about the
                                  cannon... which means sometimes I
                                  break things, as I did this time. 
                                  There was still an (informal) sponsor,
                                  the one that sent the invites.  They
                                  just did not have a presence on the
                                  day.  Thank you Daniel as you did make
                                  me think critically about the strength
                                  of my role as host.  I think I dealt
                                  with that through my introduction to
                                  the day; and as it turns out the
                                  authority to host was not an issue.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>But
                                  as it turns out, that was not really
                                  the biggest challenge!</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style> </span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>The
                                  main lessons I took away about what
                                  contributed to the average result:</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style>There
                                    needs to be clear, compelling shared
                                    work.</span></b></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>The
                                  overall project was more complicated
                                  than OST, so it wasn't clear what
                                  turning up actually meant, and I think
                                  many did not turn up on the basis of
                                  wanting to resolve a shared challenge
                                  (the work), as you might expect for
                                  OST.   In straight OST terms, you
                                  could say this was an issue of
                                  invitation, but really it was many
                                  things.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>So
                                  the group was interesting.  They had
                                  the heart, but not the will.  They
                                  were committed, but without ownership
                                  of the result.  I've seen this a lot
                                  in the community engagement field, but
                                  nowhere that I have used (or seen)
                                  OST.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>I
                                  thought about this a lot, I thought it
                                  might have been about the invitation
                                  and self-selection; but at the end of
                                  the day I think it comes down to the
                                  sense of (and invitation in to) shared
                                  work.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style>It
                                    is super hard to dissolve ingrained
                                    power and authority relationships in
                                    the short term.  These can't be
                                    sidestepped by an external
                                    facilitator.</span></b></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style> </span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>I
                                  struggled to help the client (the
                                  funding body) to really 'empower'. 
                                  They talked about it and genuinely
                                  want to, but old habits and mental
                                  models don't change overnight.  They
                                  really struggled to push beyond
                                  managing the process as superiours (to
                                  a set of subordinate participants). 
                                  This is 'empowerment' within a
                                  patriarchal system, and it doesn't
                                  work.  It felt very yucky at times.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style> </span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>A
                                  curious side effect of this
                                  partriarchal 'empowerment' was an
                                  unwillingness to be clear about the
                                  work ("we want to be open and let them
                                  lead the process" they would say... I
                                  got the client to agree that <i>the</i>y were
                                  clearly the leaders, but we didn't
                                  quite work out how to put that into
                                  practice).</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style> </span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>Over
                                  the course of the engagement, we all
                                  took baby steps together that invest
                                  in their (/our) capacity to really
                                  work together in future.  They learned
                                  a LOT in a short period of time, and
                                  so did I, but it was too short.  By
                                  the end of the project I had the
                                  client calling me up to ask how they
                                  could reword things so they didn't
                                  reflect a control response. : )  That
                                  was good, but obviously if they need
                                  me for this then there is some way to
                                  go.  And different client reps had
                                  different levels of self reflection.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style> </span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>Hosting
                                  an isolated OST workshop against this
                                  grain was very ambitious, it was
                                  always going to be, no matter how we
                                  conducted ourselves.</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style> </span></p>
                            </div>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>And
                                  perhaps 20% were very proactive, and
                                  led the bulk of the work that
                                  occurred... they saved the day!</span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>But
                                  the length of the OST was not enough
                                  for this leadership to really be
                                  contagious and precipitate a
                                  productive culture.</span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style> </span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style>Or
                                    in other words: we struggled to free
                                    up authorisation to be more dynamic</span></b></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>Reading
                                  your blog post Daniel, the idea of
                                  dynamic authorisation would have been
                                  very useful earlier in the project. 
                                  Another way of looking at the project:
                                  we struggled to free the space of
                                  ingrained authority to enable dynamic
                                  authorisation.</span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style> </span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style> </span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>There
                                  were lots of other insights into how
                                  we could have done it differently, but
                                  to me these were the fundamental
                                  stumbling blocks for us.</span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style> </span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>Still,
                                  they were not too big, and I'm pleased
                                  we made a good start.</span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>My
                                  favourite feedback was "thank you,
                                  this was the first time I have been
                                  part of genuine engagement in more
                                  than a decade in the sector" : )</span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style> </span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>Next
                                  time, we will do better.</span></p>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all">
                            </p>
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                <div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#663300">John
                                            Baxter</span></i></b></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#444444">​</span></i><i><span style>Co</span></i><i><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#444444">​</span></i><i><span style>Create Adelaide
                                          Facilitator, Director of
                                          Realise consultancy</span></i></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style><a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">CoCreateADL.com</span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1155cc">​</span></a> | <a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">jsbaxter.com.au</span></a></span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#444444"><a href="tel:0405%20447%20829">0405
                                          447 829</a></span></p>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#444444">​
                                          | ​</span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>@</span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_" target="_blank"><span style>jsbaxter_</span></a></span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au" target="_blank">City
                                              Grill— An Election Forum
                                              More Magnificent Than Any
                                              Ever Seen</a>!</span></i></b><i><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">, <a href="x-apple-data-detectors://28">Saturday
                                            18 October 2014</a><br>
                                          Connect with your candidates,
                                          get your voice heard by
                                          joining with others in your
                                          community, and Influence the
                                          future of the city</span></i></p>
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                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span></p>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Sep 30, 2014
                                at 12:07 AM, Daniel Mezick <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dan@newtechusa.net');" target="_blank">dan@newtechusa.net</a>>
                                wrote:</p>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">Hi John, <br>
                                  <br>
                                  Yours is a very interesting story. <br>
                                  <br>
                                  You say: <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <i><span style="font-size:18.0pt">"...To
                                      be honest<b> I am not sure</b> how
                                      I need to deal with this, though <b>my
                                        strategy is to accept the
                                        authority</b> for hosting the
                                      space in the next workshop, <b>obsolving
                                        the department of their
                                        responsibility</b> to manage the
                                      day."<br>
                                      <br>
                                      "...I don't think it is feasible
                                      for the obvious authority
                                      candidates hosting something
                                      genuinely participatory.  <b>The
                                        relevant director has said she
                                        doesn't want to speak formally
                                        and become The Authority for the
                                        day</b>, a position I agree
                                      with."</span></i></p>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    In the situation as described, it
                                    sounds like the org is the very
                                    earliest stages of moving in a
                                    direction of more
                                    open/participatory/inviting. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Do you agree with this assessment?<br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    If this assessment is correct, based
                                    on what you describe, I would
                                    probably avoid attempting Open Space
                                    in the canonical form whatsoever (as
                                    described in the OST GUIDE)  because
                                    the Sponsor role is vacant.
                                    Unoccupied. And so, by my reckoning,
                                    if I understand you right, a true
                                    Open Space event isn't even
                                    possible, because the essential
                                    OST-Sponsor-role is in fact not
                                    willingly occupied by anyone with
                                    enough authority to play that
                                    essential role well. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    What's clear is that someone who
                                    could function as OST-Sponsor is
                                    currently unwilling to do so. And so
                                    I might try a "taster" or "demo"
                                    event instead, where the goal is to
                                    <i>learn about Open Space in general</i>,
                                    and do a <i>little</i> bit of
                                    "real" work too. Especially if the
                                    allotted time a mere 1/2 day, I am
                                    even more inclined to strongly favor
                                    this re-framing of the stated goals.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    So the primary and stated goal for
                                    the "taster" is learning about OST.
                                    Another goal for a short event might
                                    be to see who shows up
                                    super-interested in the art of
                                    Facilitation, and then offer to
                                    mentor those who do self-select by
                                    showing interest.  In this manner
                                    some Facilitation capacity is
                                    developed inside the org, to help
                                    with current meetings and processes.
                                    Introducing Facilitation into
                                    typical meetings is a easy and
                                    effective "culture hack".<br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    For me, the total unwillingness of
                                    an obvious candidate to occupy the
                                    Sponsor role is a huge warning
                                    signal to slow down, pause, or even
                                    stop. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Lots of people here have more
                                    experience than me, and might be
                                    willing to lend you some of their
                                    expertise regarding the authority
                                    dynamics of Facilitating an OST
                                    event with the essential
                                    OST-Sponsor-role completely vacant<br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Kind Regards,<br>
                                    Daniel </p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">On 9/28/14
                                        11:30 PM, John Baxter wrote:</p>
                                    </div>
                                    <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">I am
                                            navigating some challenging
                                            authority dynamics in a
                                            project at the moment.</p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">I was
                                            brought in a week out from
                                            the first of three forums,
                                            and asked to 'facilitate a
                                            codesign process' which was
                                            at that stage a black box
                                            (with many hidden
                                            expectations) scheduled into
                                            that event (1 hour before
                                            lunch and 1 hour
                                            afterwards).</p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">It's a
                                            long journey, but you can
                                            imagine how my role has
                                            changed as I prepare for the
                                            third forum which I am
                                            hosting in Open Space.</p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">The
                                            overall process is an
                                            engagement between a
                                            government department and
                                            their funded agencies.  The
                                            most obvious direct power
                                            dynamics are obvious, the
                                            effective power and
                                            authority dynamics are much
                                            more complex (though
                                            predictable).</p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Department
                                              staff have authority
                                              challenges as much as the
                                              agencies.  They are trying
                                              so hard to be 'neutral'
                                              and 'non controlling' that
                                              they are effectively
                                              reinforcing their own
                                              authority positions (which
                                              often have little real
                                              correlation to the power,
                                              knowledge etc that they
                                              imagine them to).</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">To be
                                              honest I am not sure how I
                                              need to deal with this,
                                              though my strategy is to
                                              accept the authority for
                                              hosting the space in the
                                              next workshop, obsolving
                                              the department of their
                                              responsibility to manage
                                              the day.</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">It has
                                            been interesting to watch
                                            push back so far from agency
                                            reps who are committed to
                                            participating, who are
                                            genuinely engaged, but are
                                            playing to an us-them
                                            tension that is getting in
                                            the way of the shared work
                                            (and serves them no good
                                            ends except protecting them
                                            from their own
                                            responsibility). 
                                            Stand-offishness is
                                            gradually being resolved,
                                            though some pockets are
                                            holding firm.</p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">I am
                                            crossing my fingers for WS3
                                            that we can traverse these
                                            and get into Open Space
                                            without being pushed off the
                                            bridge by the reactionary
                                            tension; and that once on
                                            the other side, the
                                            department reps can embrace
                                            Open Space and take
                                            responsibility for their
                                            role.</p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">We will
                                            get across <i>as long as I
                                              have the authority</i> to
                                            host the space for them.</p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">I don't
                                            think it is feasible for the
                                            obvious authority candidates
                                            hosting something genuinely
                                            participatory.  The relevant
                                            director has said she
                                            doesn't want to speak
                                            formally and become The
                                            Authority for the day, a
                                            position I agree with.</p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">But it
                                            does leave something of a
                                            shell, where I am crossing
                                            my fingers that our time
                                            together thus far affords me
                                            the authority to host that
                                            space.</p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">I think
                                            we are ready. I am bringing
                                            my harness and floaties just
                                            in case.</p>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all">
                                        </p>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                            <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#663300">John
                                                        Baxter</span></i></b></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><i>​
                                                    Co​Create Adelaide
                                                    Facilitator,
                                                    Director of
                                                    Realise consultancy</i></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">CoCreateADL.com ​</span></a> | <a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">jsbaxter.com.au</span></a></p>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#444444"><a href="tel:0405%20447%20829">0405 447 829</a></span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span></p>
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                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#444444">​
                                                      | ​</span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">@<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_" target="_blank">jsbaxter_</a></span></p>
                                              </div>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au" target="_blank">City Grill— An
                                                        Election Forum
                                                        More Magnificent
                                                        Than Any Ever
                                                        Seen</a></span></i><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">, <a href="x-apple-data-detectors://36">Saturday 18 October 2014</a><br>
                                                    Influence your city
                                                    by building
                                                    relationships and
                                                    joining voices with
                                                    others in your
                                                    community</span></p>
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                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">On Mon,
                                            Sep 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM,
                                            Daniel Mezick via OSList
                                            <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oslist@lists.openspacetech.org');" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
                                            wrote:</p>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Hi
                                              Harrison,<br>
                                              <br>
                                              So interesting how the Law
                                              of 2 Feet authorizes me,
                                              and every other member of
                                              an OST event, to go
                                              anywhere we may want to
                                              go. <br>
                                              <br>
                                              Without asking anyone else
                                              for any kind of
                                              "permission"... <br>
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              Reminds me of this past
                                              June, being in Camden with
                                              you, and Ethelyn, and
                                              Harold, and friends...
                                              when we were standing on
                                              the porch of that Camden
                                              restaurant... waiting for
                                              everyone to arrive, and
                                              assemble for dinner... <br>
                                              <br>
                                              And as we wait, I notice
                                              there is this
                                              convenient-looking,
                                              alternate entry-door...
                                              into the dining area. <br>
                                              <br>
                                              And I say: "Hmm...I wonder
                                              if we are authorized to
                                              use that door."<br>
                                              <br>
                                              And you say: <br>
                                              <br>
                                              "We're authorized to go
                                              Anywhere we want to go."<br>
                                              <br>
                                              ...and I like that.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Daniel<br>
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              Picture of that place:<br>
                                              <a href="https://twitter.com/DanielMezick/status/483054326265692161" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/DanielMezick/status/483054326265692161</a><br>
                                              See also:<br>
                                              <a href="https://twitter.com/danielgullo/status/483434622009999360" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/danielgullo/status/483434622009999360</a><br>
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                                                    9/25/14 4:58 PM,
                                                    Harrison Owen wrote:</p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Daniel...
                                                        You really did
                                                        it! I think.
                                                        Your language
                                                        comes from a
                                                        place I don’t
                                                        know... which is
                                                        to say that I
                                                        probably
                                                        wouldn’t say
                                                        what you say in
                                                        the way that you
                                                        do (duh). BUT
                                                        when I run my
                                                        “translator” it
                                                        comes out
                                                        sounding pretty
                                                        good! So... I
                                                        can’t help with
                                                        the questions
                                                        you have raised.
                                                        Actually I think
                                                        you are doing
                                                        pretty well on
                                                        your own, and
                                                        (hopefully) will
                                                        incite others to
                                                        a similarly
                                                        riotous
                                                        performance.
                                                        Thanks!</span></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Harrison
                                                      </span></p>
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                                                          Address</span></p>
                                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">7808
                                                          River Falls
                                                          Drive</span></p>
                                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Potomac,
                                                          MD 20854</span></p>
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                                                          Mezick via
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                                                          September 25,
                                                          2014 9:39 AM<br>
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                                                          Authority
                                                          Distribution
                                                          in Open Space</span></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Greetings to All, <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      For the past
                                                      several years I
                                                      have attended
                                                      conferences of the
                                                      Group Relations
                                                      community, and
                                                      encouraged others
                                                      to do the same.
                                                      I've studied their
                                                      literature, and
                                                      harvested some
                                                      important learning
                                                      as a result. One
                                                      of the things I
                                                      have come to
                                                      understand a
                                                      little bit better
                                                      is the role of
                                                      "authority
                                                      dynamics" in
                                                      self-organizing
                                                      social systems.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Link:<br>
                                                      <a href="http://www.akriceinstitute.org" target="_blank">www.akriceinstitute.org</a><br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Over the past
                                                      several years I've
                                                      been using Open
                                                      Space with intent
                                                      to improve the
                                                      results of my work
                                                      in helping
                                                      companies
                                                      implement Agile
                                                      ideas in their
                                                      organizations. We
                                                      do an initial Open
                                                      Space, then the
                                                      folks get about 3
                                                      months to play
                                                      with Agile (we
                                                      carefully use the
                                                      word
                                                      "experimentation"
                                                      with management,)
                                                      then we do another
                                                      Open Space after
                                                      that, to inspect
                                                      what just happened
                                                      across the
                                                      enterprise. The
                                                      initial and
                                                      subsequent Open
                                                      Space events form
                                                      a "safe" container
                                                      or field in which
                                                      the members can <i>learn</i>...
                                                      as they explore
                                                      how to <i>improve</i>
                                                      together by <i>experimenting</i>
                                                      with new
                                                      practices, and see
                                                      if they actually
                                                      work. I call the
                                                      process Open Agile
                                                      Adoption. <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Link:<br>
                                                      <a href="http://OpenAgileAdoption.com">OpenAgileAdoption.com</a><br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      This seems to work
                                                      pretty good. It
                                                      seems to "take the
                                                      air out of" most
                                                      of the fear, most
                                                      of the anxiety and
                                                      most of the worry
                                                      that is created.
                                                      The key aspect is
                                                      <i>consent</i>:
                                                      absolutely no one
                                                      is forced to do
                                                      anything they are
                                                      unwilling to do.
                                                      No one is <i>coerced</i>
                                                      to <i>comply</i>.
                                                      Everyone is
                                                      instead
                                                      respectfully <i>invited</i>
                                                      to help <i>write</i>
                                                      the story, and be
                                                      a <i>character</i>
                                                      in the story...of
                                                      the contemplated
                                                      process change.
                                                      Open Agile
                                                      Adoption
                                                      encourages a
                                                      spirit of
                                                      experimentation
                                                      and play. <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      The spirit of Open
                                                      Space is the
                                                      spirit of freedom.
                                                      Isn't it? In the
                                                      OST community, we
                                                      discuss and talk a
                                                      lot about
                                                      self-organization,
                                                      self-management
                                                      and
                                                      self-governance.
                                                      The Agile
                                                      community also
                                                      talks about these
                                                      ideas a lot. <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      So I have some
                                                      questions. What is
                                                      really going on
                                                      during
                                                      self-organization
                                                      in a social
                                                      system? What are
                                                      the steps? What
                                                      information is
                                                      being sent and
                                                      received? >From
                                                      whom, and by whom?
                                                      Is the information
                                                      about <i>authority</i>
                                                      important? How
                                                      important? Can a
                                                      social system self
                                                      organize without
                                                      regard to who has
                                                      the right to do
                                                      what work? <i>How
                                                        do decisions
                                                        that affect
                                                        others get made
                                                        in a
                                                        self-organizing
                                                        system?</i> <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Who decides about
                                                      <i>who decides</i>?
                                                      How important is
                                                      the process of <i>authorization</i>
                                                      in a
                                                      self-organizing
                                                      system? Is
                                                      self-organization
                                                      in large part the
                                                      process of dynamic
                                                      authorization (and
                                                      <i>de-authorization</i>)
                                                      in real time?<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      What <i>is </i>authorization?
                                                      Can
                                                      self-organization
                                                      occur without the
                                                      sending and
                                                      receiving of
                                                      authorization data
                                                      by and between the
                                                      members?<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Is Bruce Tuckman's
                                                      forming/storming/performing/adjourning
                                                      actually
                                                      decomposing the <i>dynamics
                                                        of authorization</i>
                                                      inside a social
                                                      system?<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      The essay below
                                                      attempts to answer
                                                      some of these
                                                      difficult
                                                      questions. I'd
                                                      love your thoughts
                                                      on it. Will you
                                                      give it a look?<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Essay: Authority
                                                      Distribution in
                                                      Open Space<br>
                                                      <a href="http://newtechusa.net/agile/authority-distribution-in-open-space/" target="_blank">http://newtechusa.net/agile/authority-distribution-in-open-space/</a><br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Kind Regards,<br>
                                                      Daniel</p>
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                                                      <p>Daniel Mezick,
                                                        President</p>
                                                      <p>New Technology
                                                        Solutions Inc.</p>
                                                      <p><a href="tel:%28203%29%20915%207248" target="_blank">(203) 915 7248</a>
                                                        (cell)</p>
                                                      <p><a href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/" target="_blank">Bio</a>. <a href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/" target="_blank">Blog</a>. <a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/" target="_blank">Twitter</a>.<span style="color:black"> </span></p>
                                                      <p>Examine my new
                                                        book:<span style="color:black"> 
                                                        </span><a href="http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/" target="_blank">The
                                                          Culture Game </a>:
                                                        Tools for the
                                                        Agile Manager.</p>
                                                      <p>Explore Agile
                                                        Team <a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/" target="_blank">Training</a>
                                                        and <a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/" target="_blank">Coaching.</a></p>
                                                      <p>Explore the <a href="http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/" target="_blank">Agile
                                                          Boston </a>Community. </p>
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                                                  </p>
                                                  <p>Daniel Mezick,
                                                    President</p>
                                                  <p>New Technology
                                                    Solutions Inc.</p>
                                                  <p><a href="tel:%28203%29%20915%207248" target="_blank">(203) 915 7248</a>
                                                    (cell)</p>
                                                  <p><a href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/" target="_blank">Bio</a>. <a href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/" target="_blank">Blog</a>. <a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/" target="_blank">Twitter</a>. </p>
                                                  <p>Examine my new
                                                    book:  <a href="http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/" target="_blank">The
                                                      Culture Game </a>:
                                                    Tools for the Agile
                                                    Manager.</p>
                                                  <p>Explore Agile Team
                                                    <a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/" target="_blank">Training</a>
                                                    and <a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/" target="_blank">Coaching.</a></p>
                                                  <p>Explore the <a href="http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/" target="_blank">Agile
                                                      Boston </a>Community. </p>
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                                  <p>Daniel Mezick, President</p>
                                  <p>New Technology Solutions Inc.</p>
                                  <p><a href="tel:%28203%29%20915%207248" target="_blank">(203) 915 7248</a>
                                    (cell)</p>
                                  <p><a href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/" target="_blank">Bio</a>. <a href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/" target="_blank">Blog</a>. <a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/" target="_blank">Twitter</a>. </p>
                                  <p>Examine my new book:  <a href="http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/" target="_blank">The Culture Game </a>:
                                    Tools for the Agile Manager.</p>
                                  <p>Explore Agile Team <a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/" target="_blank">Training</a> and <a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/" target="_blank">Coaching.</a></p>
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