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Harrison,<br>
<br>
A deep bow of gratitude for your thoughts around the patronizing
quality of "empowerment" as well as the rich questions raised in
your response to Daniel.<br>
<br>
Thank you for this quote "...if we understand OST simply to be an
invitation to maximize the ongoing process of Self Organization -
the basics are already in place and fully operational..."<br>
<br>
You say *the basics* are already in place. That seems to imply that
using OST (for now at least) is helping us get beyond the basics. Is
there anything else that helps us get beyond the basics for Self
Organizing?<br>
<br>
Also, to your statement "When there's a will (desire/care), there's
almost inevitably a way." Whose will? Is it the "will" of the
Group/Organization as a whole?<br>
<br>
So despite the duly authorized say so of the Boss/Sponsor (or lack
thereof), if the "will" of the Group is to do something, it will
find a way. Could we better consider "Sponsor" support as the "will"
of the Group? And if the will of the Group is at odds with the
Boss's will, how do we tell when it'll be ok/safe/legal to run OST
despite the Boss "just saying no"?<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
Harold<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/15/14 10:47 AM, Harrison Owen via
OSList wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dan
– Your Sponsor Properties are intriguing. My first-take
response would be, Sure. All are useful. And the same could
be said for having any party. After all, who would want to
go to a party when there is nowhere to go, nothing to
consume (resources), and the party itself is contrary to all
regulations? End of report. Full stop!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">But
is it? If so a whole mess of teenagers, Gen-X’s, what have
you, would be very surprised. My experience aligns with
theirs. When there’s a will (desire/care), there’s almost
inevitably a way. Somehow the space clears, the consumables
manifest, and who cares about the regulations. A fellow
parent once said in jest that the fastest way to insure a
massive neighborhood teen blowout was 1) Restrict all likely
participants to their bedrooms. 2) Remove any and all
possible “consumables,” and 3) Issue a proclamation that the
Party Can’t Happen. That’s not a joke son. But of course
such behavior could never happen in a well managed,
bureaucratic organization. Right?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Maybe.
But my organizational experience suggests a rather different
conclusion. I spent some 10 years in the (US) Federal Health
Care establishment, mostly the NIH (National Institutes of
Health), which most folks at the time (1970-1980) would
describe as hugely bureaucratic and generally well managed.
I can’t give you a totally accurate account, but I venture
to guess that something like 50% of all the “program
initiatives” I was involved with occurred without “official”
sponsorship, with little to no resources, and no time or
space allocated going in. In one situation where we were
working to spell out something called “Competence Based
Re-licensure” for physicians – which was about as popular as
a skunk at a garden party – we worked together for better
than a year, involved a broad base of experts (including the
past Director of NIH), and produced a product which is still
having influence today. At the conclusion of our efforts,
the Director of NIH came to me and asked what the budget had
been. My response: “I don’t know sir. We never found one.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Doubtless
that is just the aberrant behavior of HH Owen. But if so,
that marvelous creative source of innovation, The Skunk
Works, could never have happened. I think Tom Peters named
the critter, but anybody involved with the creation of new
products and who honestly describes how they happened, will
recognize the beast. The poster child, of course is the
“Post-it” from 3M. If you listen to the voice of 3M today,
you might think that the new product arose from a careful
plan, richly resourced, and fully blessed by the corporate
powers that be. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Post-its was actually the product of a small motley crew,
with virtually no resources, except those they could
“borrow,” often operating in secret to avoid corporate
censure. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">But
what does all this have to do with Open Space? Nothing, I
guess. And everything, I do believe. Obviously Open Space as
a formal entity (sit in circle...) had nothing to do with
any of the above. It didn’t exist. On the other hand if we
understand OST simply to be an intentional invitation to
maximize the ongoing process of Self Organization – the
basics are already in place and fully operational, as has
been the case for 13.7 billion years. I have found it very
worthwhile to consider the operation of naturally occurring
“Open Space” as a guide to our own efforts with OST. And
there is a lot to consider, but in the area of “sponsorship”
it would seem that what Dan has suggested may well be true,
but is by no means the whole story. In a word, there is a
lot more than meets the eye. I think.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Harrison,<br>
<br>
Thanks for your rich reply and explanation of the role of
[empowerment].<br>
<br>
Question: <br>
<br>
Is is true that if we have the 5 preconditions as you
describe, do we still need the following to have an effective
OST event?<br>
<br>
(Note I am assuming a private (not a public-conference-type
OST event...)<br>
<br>
Sponsor Properties:<br>
<br>
1. A Sponsor who has permission from the org, to allocate
some of the org's scarce capital, to pay for the event
expenses;<br>
<br>
2. A Sponsor who has permission from the org, to invite
people to spend a day if they so choose, by accepting the
invite;<br>
<br>
3. A Sponsor who has permission from the org, and is <i>willing</i>
and able to "keep it open", with all the issues "on the table"
with no issues "off limits" as described on page 20 of the
GUIDE;<br>
<br>
4. A Sponsor who has permission from the org, and is <i>willing</i>
to: <br>
<br>
a) Represent to the people that the Sponsor's plan is
to immediately act the (as yet unknown) Proceedings and (drum
roll here...)<br>
b) ...actually follow through and act on the issues
that appear in the Proceedings, immediately following the
event.<br>
<br>
<br>
If the Sponsor is missing even one of these properties, is it
advised to proceed at all?<br>
<br>
Daniel</p>
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