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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks Scott, Koos, and Karolina,<br>
<br>
I can see that the sender is listed as Harold Shinsato via OSList
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org></a>.<br>
<br>
As long as people have good text in their "from" field, it should
make the sender clear in our inboxes and in the archives. But we
won't be able to search via email addresses :-(<br>
<br>
Still, it seems better than risking the OSList being considered a
spammer in the DMARC system - so I'll leave it that way for now
until we have a better solution.<br>
<br>
Thanks everyone for your patience!<br>
<br>
Harold<br>
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On 9/24/14 2:27 PM, karolina iwa via OSList wrote:<br>
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persistence.
<div>it is very appreciated!</div>
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<div>karolina.</div>
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<div>On 24 Sep 2014, at 22:22, Koos de Heer via OSList wrote:</div>
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<div>Hi Harold,</div>
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<div>Thank you so much for all the work you are putting
into this. In my inbox, the mail you sent was listed as
coming from "Harold Shinsato via OSList" which I think
is by all means acceptable. </div>
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<div>Koos</div>
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Op 24 sep. 2014 om 22:06 heeft Harold Shinsato via
OSList <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
het volgende geschreven:<br>
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I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from
Raffi's emails, but it happened again.<br>
<br>
Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's
email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google
emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If
you are getting this message - no need to do anything.
Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make
any difference.<br>
<br>
But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another
festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the
google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo,
MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced
Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their
accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today.
If you see this email - no action needed.<br>
<br>
The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are
implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam.
Gory details: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690">http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690</a><br>
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Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory
details. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC">http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC</a>.
For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to
moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another
experiment where the From field is changed - so this
note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I
don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it.<br>
<br>
It looks like there is a better solution in a newer
version of the software we are using for the OSList.
I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to
deploy that software - but it might take a while.<br>
<br>
Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches.
I'll keep you updated.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Harold<br>
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