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    Hi AnnaMarie,<br>
    <br>
    I wonder if Vermont warming recently.. ;)<br>
    <br>
    Ed Seykota is a well-known pioneer of "systems trading". He also
    makes some assertions about physics that are controversial:<br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Seykota">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Seykota</a><br>
    <br>
    Here is an interview. He is a "trend-follower" aka a "Wave Rider"
    according to our language here....<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.curatedalpha.com/2011/curated-interview-with-ed-seykota-from-market-wizards/">http://www.curatedalpha.com/2011/curated-interview-with-ed-seykota-from-market-wizards/</a><br>
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    This link provides info on the intimacy-centric model:<br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.seykota.com/tt/workshops/examples.html">http://www.seykota.com/tt/workshops/examples.html</a><br>
    <br>
    Here are some quotes from Ed Seykota:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.facebook.com/theeconomicrevolution/posts/200709843379330?stream_ref=10">https://www.facebook.com/theeconomicrevolution/posts/200709843379330?stream_ref=10</a><br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ed_Seykota">http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ed_Seykota</a><br>
    <br>
    Exploring the site <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.TradingTribe.com">www.TradingTribe.com</a>, especially
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.seykota.com/tt/ground_rules/default.html">http://www.seykota.com/tt/ground_rules/default.html</a>, might be
    interesting. If you send an email question per Ground Rules, the
    question appears with an answer in FAQ...<br>
    <br>
    Sample Ground-Rules (fragment):<br>
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    <p style="word-spacing: 0; margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0"
      class="auto-style7" align="center">FAQ does not ...make
      predictions,</p>
    <p style="word-spacing: 0; margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0"
      class="auto-style7" align="center">or tell people what they should
      do</p>
    <p style="word-spacing: 0; margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0"
      class="auto-style7" align="center">or make up reasons for things</p>
    <p style="word-spacing: 0; margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0"
      class="auto-style7" align="center">or judge right or wrong</p>
    <p style="word-spacing: 0; margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0"
      class="auto-style7" align="center">or answer "why" questions</p>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/27/14 8:54 AM, Annamarie Pluhar
      wrote:<br>
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      cite="mid:593603E8-3F29-4104-88A4-8A8AC796419E@pluharconsulting.com"
      type="cite">Daniel -
      <br>
      <br>
      I find that model most interesting. Simple and communicates
      clearly. I had not heard of Ed Seykota - found some of him on the
      web. Found the page for his book.. , <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://39thday.com/#">http://39thday.com/#</a>
      <br>
      Do you have a link for that model?
      <br>
      <br>
      Thanks
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Annamarie
      <br>
      <br>
      On 26 Apr 2014, at 9:59, Daniel Mezick wrote:
      <br>
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">There is a fellow named Ed Seykota. He
        innovates. He has 2 pairs of models: a pair for 1-to-1
        relationships, and a pair for group & system level
        relationships. His models confirm and align with the
        philosophies and assumptions which form the foundation of Open
        Space:
        <br>
        <br>
        ·All systems are open
        <br>
        <br>
        ·All systems are self-organizing
        <br>
        <br>
        The Models
        <br>
        <br>
        (1) *intimacy-centric*and *control-centric*models for
        relationships;
        <br>
        In a control-centric relationship, the parties go for control. 
        They use manipulation, force, threats, guilt, etc. to get each
        other to "behave" properly.  In an intimacy-centric
        relationship, the parties go for connection.  Every event
        becomes an opportunity to become closer and more intimate.
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        (2) *causal*and *system*models for dynamic behavior.
        <br>
        In the causal model, we have a cause and an effect.  You flip
        the switch and the light goes on.  In the system model, you have
        inter-relating elements that co-evolve as their effects on each
        other change.  Some examples of systems are a thermostat that
        intends to keep the temperature in the room constant and a
        futures market that intends to find a price that balances
        supply, demand and other speculative interests. Politicians
        typically apply the causal model to economic situations so as to
        find a convenient "cause" that justifies expenditures on their
        pet projects.
        <br>
        <br>
        Now, what is interesting & concerning (to me) is the way the
        so-called Agile institutions tacitly support the control-centric
        model for relationships and the causal model for dynamic
        behavior, in Agile adoptions. Throughout the world.
        <br>
        <br>
        I am an Agile consultant. I choose to focus my attention on
        finding ways to reduce the number of coaching days, such that
        organizations can reach a state of self-sustaining,
        "freestanding" agility faster. And here is what I have
        discovered: to speed up the process of change, the people in the
        situation have to actually /consent/ to the change. They must be
        /willing/. They must be choosing /freely/. High Performance in
        Agile adoptions is a function of /opt-in willingness to proceed/
        on the part of the people who actually do the work.
        <br>
        <br>
        Sound familiar?
        <br>
        <br>
        Typical Agile adoptions today are implemented as imposed and
        mandated process change. By "management". By "formally
        authorized leadership." This is the control-centric model for
        relationships.
        <br>
        <br>
        Typical Agile adoptions today are implemented as imposed,
        mandated process change. The assumption is that if we can just
        "make them do this or that", we can "cause" improvement in the
        organization. This is the causal model for system behavior.
        <br>
        <br>
        This is a very serious problem in our world, and one that the
        so-called Agile institutions are just not addressing. The Agile
        Alliance, for example, has various policy statements. Yet the
        Agile Alliance has no policy statement whatsoever regarding the
        harmful, mandated imposition of Agile practices. This amounts to
        a rubber-stamping of the control-centric, causal, imposed-Agile
        "status quo" that we see in the world today.
        <br>
        <br>
        Open Space can help with Agile adoptions, but only if the
        Facilitator is unwilling to implement the control-centric model
        for relationships, and only if the Facilitator is unwilling to
        implement the causal model for social-system behavior.
        Well-intentioned management often just does not see it that way.
        <br>
        <br>
        I'm concerned that we are entering a period where, absent any
        clear position statement on mandated-Agile from the so-called
        Agile institutions, we can expect trouble in the way Open Space
        evolves in the Agile-adoption marketplace. As Open Space
        Facilitators, we (and we alone) are in a position to maintain
        the sanctity of Open Space, and prevent it from becoming a tool
        of manipulation and control in Agile adoptions.
        <br>
        <br>
        Daniel
        <br>
        <br>
        Related Link: The Agile Imposition
        <br>
        <br>
        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://martinfowler.com/bliki/AgileImposition.html">http://martinfowler.com/bliki/AgileImposition.html</a>
        <br>
        <br>
        Related Link: Sample Agile Alliance policy statement on
        certification
        <br>
        <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.agilealliance.org/news/agile-certification-a-position-statement/">http://www.agilealliance.org/news/agile-certification-a-position-statement/</a>
        <br>
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        Control vs Intimacy Model for 1-to-1 Relationships; Causal vs
        System Model for Groups
        <br>
        <br>
        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.seykota.com/tt/workshops/examples.html">http://www.seykota.com/tt/workshops/examples.html</a>
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