<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Dan,<div><br></div><div>You ask great questions! </div><div><br></div><div>My take: like most of life, authorization is more nuanced than your statement below.</div><div><br></div><div>Like you, I believe everyone has 100% equivalent authorization AND they also carry the imprinting of habits, context, self-talk, existing relationships, and more that influence how they show up. Some will experience themselves as having 100% authorization, some will test that assumption, others will observe and reserve judgment, and every other flavor in between. </div><div><br></div><div>I have observed that with repeated use, people seem to experience an increasing sense of self-authorization. More take responsibility for what they love not just in Open Space but in life.</div><div><br></div><div>I know of no practice that lays the groundwork better for increasing self-authorization in social systems.</div><div><br></div><div>from sunny (at last) Seattle,</div><div>Peggy</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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<br><div><div>On Mar 31, 2014, at 7:06 AM, Daniel Mezick <<a href="mailto:dan@newtechusa.net">dan@newtechusa.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
  
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    This is very helpful for helping me understand your thinking. Thanks
    for sending the rich detail and disclosure.<br>
    <br>
    I am stuck. I continue to hold the belief that (quoting myself
    here...)<br>
    <br>
    "Everyone...Sponsor included, has 100%
    equivalent authorization (100% equivalent "right to do work" in the
    Open Space) as of
    the
    moment of opening of the Bulletin Board and/or the opening of the
    Marketplace."<br>
    <br>
    I wonder: if this is NOT actually true, how can the space be said to
    be truly open? I wonder who has more "right to do work" than anyone
    else... as of the opening of the Bulletin Board, and/or the opening
    of the
    Marketplace, in an Open Space meeting. <br>
    <br>
    Maybe there is no equivalence of authorization whatsoever in Open
    Space, and I am simply barking up the wrong tree.<br>
    <br>
    Daniel<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/31/14 9:41 AM, Michael M Pannwitz
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote cite="mid:5339709C.5080103@gmail.com" type="cite">Dear
      Dan,
      <br>
      as mostly, there is none or very little detailed thinking behind
      me expressing the idea, that authority does not disappear just
      because an os-event is taking place, and there is no levelling of
      authority, which I assume you meant, when using the expression
      "equal standing".
      <br>
      <br>
      This is all observation and experience, data I have taken in. In
      my world, thats pretty important and utterly valid even if the
      stuff I observe might be seen completely different by other
      observers.
      <br>
      <br>
      Looking at myself, I have lots of authority of the kind that sort
      of oozes out of me when standing in a circle, looking every one in
      the eye, even if there are thousands and asking them to look
      around, at the person to the right and to the left of them, behind
      them, at the other side of the circcle, all the time slowly
      walking around the circle... after I have done that twice everyone
      is smiling, looking, focusing on each other away from me... and
      then my authority shifts as I say nothing about open space but
      talk about the facts of life (the principles) etc... and later I
      move in the authority of invisibilty and presence...
      <br>
      <br>
      I am not sure what happens to the participants but I have no data
      that would indicate them reaching equal standing as far as
      authority is concerned or that others will ignore the different
      kinds and levels of authority that is associated with others
      representing those, regardless of whether just assumed or in fact
      fact.
      <br>
      <br>
      There have been experiential settings in which I have
      participated, such as the desert game where the folks claiming to
      be authorities on how to survive in a desert lead the group to
      certain death, or Tavistock Laboratories where participants, me
      included, even though we had all the space and freedom we wanted
      to take, used their various authorities in intricate manners to
      re-create exactly the kinds of organisational strutures they came
      from. So, authorities are simply a fact of life, more or less
      useful, especially if adaptable in the face of surprises.
      <br>
      <br>
      What I do find very interesting, is your quest investigating
      <br>
      my thinking! I have pretty much given up investigating my own
      thinking, let alone that of others. Seems to me that the only
      thing that works for my passion to have the forces of
      selforganisation do their thing (expanding time and space, if that
      is at all possible) is to concentrate on the things I can somehow
      control: set up a circle of chairs, etc.
      <br>
      <br>
      Have a great day
      <br>
      mmp
      <br>
      <br>
      On 30.03.2014 16:17, Daniel Mezick wrote:
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">Michael,
        <br>
        <br>
        I am asking for help. May I investigate your thinking?
        <br>
        "...there is no such thing as an equal standing in authority
        terms."
        <br>
        Will you expose your detailed thinking behind your expression of
        this
        <br>
        one idea?
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        On 3/30/14 8:34 AM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
        <br>
        <blockquote type="cite">Dear Dan and everyone,
          <br>
          here are some bits from my experience:
          <br>
          <br>
          ---When I get a call or an email from someone asking me to
          facilitate
          <br>
          an ost-event I tell them to please arrange a "contact" meeting
          that
          <br>
          needs to be attended also by the person that will have the
          authority
          <br>
          to say yes or no at the end (usually the person that would pay
          my
          <br>
          fee). The purpose of the contact meeting is for the sponsor to
          find
          <br>
          out, whether the prerequisites for an OST event are
          sufficiently in
          <br>
          place. This meeting takes 60 to 90 minutes, no fee charged.
          <br>
          This process has nothing to do with OST, its simply what is
          needed for
          <br>
          any kind of intervention of any kind of man-made organisation
          that is
          <br>
          embarking on such a venture.
          <br>
          <br>
          ---Participants in an OST event do not leave the authority
          bestowed on
          <br>
          them in the wardrobe, there is no such thing as an equal
          standing in
          <br>
          authority terms. What does happen is that folks differently
          bestowed
          <br>
          with authority  will, in contrast to what they usually do,
          follow more
          <br>
          freely their "passion and responsibility" which, it seems, in
          some way
          <br>
          increases their non-bestowed authority... the expanded space
          for the
          <br>
          forces of selforganisation, the real motor in an OST event,
          seems to
          <br>
          have this effect. Everyone, all participants, fully well know
          the
          <br>
          limitations that they will have to deal with "back in the
          asylum" when
          <br>
          they follow their passion... and very often they are amazingly
          elegant
          <br>
          and cunning in seeing their project through (responsible).
          That is why
          <br>
          I encourage the folks in charge not to make any kind of
          promises
          <br>
          regarding what they will do to encourage projects emerging
          from the
          <br>
          ost event. Participants will get the conditions in place to
          see their
          <br>
          projects through.
          <br>
          <br>
          ---Yes, again my experience, coercion, control and such do
          shut down
          <br>
          open space, not completely though: I have seen the force in a
          dormant
          <br>
          stage and becoming quite alive when the conditions are right
          <br>
          (prerequisites in place)... isn't it our experience that big
          CONTROL
          <br>
          seems to shut down just about anything? In OST events I have
          actually
          <br>
          seen efforts of BiG control being met by counter-activity
          (this is
          <br>
          sometimes the effect of facilitator intervention when a
          space-invader
          <br>
          tries his stuff or, and even more effective, the "group"
          grappling
          <br>
          with space invasion/attempts at control... these observations
          I have
          <br>
          made when there is a really burning business issue and
          absolutely
          <br>
          nobody has the foggiest idea regarding the solution, least the
          folks
          <br>
          with "authority".
          <br>
          <br>
          I really impress myself with your passion, Daniel. Maybe
          because I
          <br>
          also have been trying to refine my understanding, find precise
          <br>
          language, get my hands onto, etc. what it is that happens in
          os-events
          <br>
          or even in os-organisations. In my os-facilitator-career, I
          have
          <br>
          increasingly given up trying to understand it and focus more
          on what I
          <br>
          see happening... which has increased my faible for stories. By
          now, I
          <br>
          know that stories are fact, right, my facts.
          <br>
          <br>
          Have a great Sunday,
          <br>
          cheers
          <br>
          mmp
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          On 30.03.2014 13:45, Daniel Mezick wrote:
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">Hi Michael, Everyone,
            <br>
            <br>
            I'm sorry there are coercive mandates happening in Berlin,
            and that you
            <br>
            have to experience them.
            <br>
            <br>
            Regarding the Sponsor for an OST meeting,
            <br>
            I am saying that I believe this person must have enough
            formal authority
            <br>
            ("sufficient+1") to be able to actually arrange, budget and
            convene the
            <br>
            meeting. And that the authority that the Sponsor holds is
            conferred to
            <br>
            him or her by the organization. Is this true in OST?
            <br>
            <br>
            Regarding the Participants,
            <br>
            I am saying that I believe that after the Marketplace opens,
            the
            <br>
            intention and in fact the reality of OST is that everyone
            has an equal
            <br>
            standing in authority terms. At the start, no one person or
            group has
            <br>
            any more authorization to act than any other person,
            regardless of their
            <br>
            formally authorized role in the organization. Is this true
            in OST?
            <br>
            <br>
            For the record, I am not at all in favor of mandates. I am
            allergic to
            <br>
            them. I believe mandates and other forms of coercion
            strongly discourage
            <br>
            self-organization by the imposition of external authority
            over the
            <br>
            person or group. Self-organization is impossible in
            scenarios where
            <br>
            individuals and groups are not free to choose. Is this true
            in OST?
            <br>
            <br>
            This places out routinely EVERY SINGLE DAY in Agile
            adoptions. Formally
            <br>
            authorized leadership imposes Agile practices on teams while
            at the same
            <br>
            time encouraging teams to "self-organize". I for one have
            seldom if ever
            <br>
            seen it actually work that way.
            <br>
            <br>
            And so I have my questions about authority in Open Space.
            <br>
            <br>
            I'm not being cute here: I'm hoping someone can help me
            break/refine my
            <br>
            model of OST as it pertains to formal and informal
            authority, in the
            <br>
            Open Space. I'm trying to use more precise language to
            explain what I
            <br>
            think is going on in OST. In my view, the 1 Law and the 5
            Principles
            <br>
            make it clear everyone has equal informal authorization in
            OST,
            <br>
            regardless of their formal title. I some ways the formal
            titles are
            <br>
            suspended, as the space is held open for inquiry and
            dialogue.
            <br>
            <br>
            This is my current belief. I asking for help in determining
            if this
            <br>
            belief is close to truth.
            <br>
            <br>
            Related Links:
            <br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://newtechusa.net/agile/authority-and-power/">http://newtechusa.net/agile/authority-and-power/</a>
            <br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://newtechusa.net/agile/authority-explained/">http://newtechusa.net/agile/authority-explained/</a>
            <br>
            <br>
            Regards,
            <br>
            Daniel
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            On 3/30/14 5:23 AM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
            <br>
            <blockquote type="cite">Dear Dan, Jamie and Paul,
              <br>
              is there a new (5th or 6th) principle emerging?
              <br>
              Such as:
              <br>
              "Whoever is authorized is the right people?"
              <br>
              Or
              <br>
              "Whoever is mandated is the right people?"
              <br>
              <br>
              Or is there a new prerequisite for the unfolding of the
              forces of
              <br>
              selforganisation in sight?
              <br>
              In addition to the 4,5 or 6 that we are often concerned
              about?
              <br>
              Such as:
              <br>
              "High level of authorisation"
              <br>
              or
              <br>
              "High level of mandation" (Palines for mandate, have a
              look at this
              <br>
              link
              <br>
              <blockquote type="cite"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://de.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mandation">http://de.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mandation</a>
                <br>
              </blockquote>
              <br>
              Or are these thoughts simply a manifestation of
              "old-paradigm",
              <br>
              remnants of the realm of control?
              <br>
              <br>
              Control? Wasn't that the effort to shut down
              selforganisation towards
              <br>
              zero?
              <br>
              <br>
              Heavy stuff for a sundrenched Sunday morning in Berlin
              where I and the
              <br>
              entire population (including dogs and cats and other pets
              kept in
              <br>
              human housing) are suffering from having been robbed of an
              hours time
              <br>
              by authorities that are mandated to do such stuff.
              <br>
              <br>
              Oh yes, before I forget, there was the notion that
              "passion and
              <br>
              responsibility" is all that is needed for "authorisation"
              (with the
              <br>
              nagging suspicion that folks driven by passion and
              responsibility and
              <br>
              even taking action under those influences walk through the
              walls and
              <br>
              obstacles set up by those authorized to raise them as if
              they were
              <br>
              thin air).
              <br>
              <br>
              Greetings from Berlin
              <br>
              mmp
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              On 29.03.2014 21:57, Daniel Mezick wrote:
              <br>
              <blockquote type="cite">I am asking for help. Will you
                help me clarify my thinking?
                <br>
                <br>
                I'm wondering if 100% equivalence in authorization for
                all
                <br>
                participants
                <br>
                is actually a key/defining characteristic of any genuine
                and authentic
                <br>
                Open Space event...
                <br>
                <br>
                <br>
                First things first. Definitions:
                <br>
                <br>
                Authority: The right to do specific work
                <br>
                <br>
                Authorization: The conferring of authority
                <br>
                <br>
                Formal Authority: Authorization conferred from the
                formal organization
                <br>
                to a person. Example: "the CEO".
                <br>
                <br>
                Informal Authority: Authorization conferred from peers,
                colleagues and
                <br>
                co-workers. Example: "emergent leadership".
                <br>
                <br>
                <br>
                Now let's get into it. I currently think, and believe,
                that:
                <br>
                <br>
                1. For an Open Space event inside an organization, the
                Sponsor must
                <br>
                occupy a role with substantial formal authorization,
                definitely more
                <br>
                than enough to actually authorize that OST event. The
                higher the level
                <br>
                of formal authorization of the Sponsor, the better it is
                for the event
                <br>
                overall.
                <br>
                <br>
                2. The Sponsor authorizes the participants- the
                "invitees"-- to meet
                <br>
                together, and do the specific work of exploring and
                investigating the
                <br>
                Theme. This "authorized work" is done in "authorized
                space"...in that
                <br>
                specific place, for a specific period of time. The
                Sponsor explicitly
                <br>
                authorizes all of the above and conveys this message
                after they stand
                <br>
                up, and before they sit down, at the opening.
                <br>
                <br>
                2. The Facilitator is formally authorized by the Sponsor
                to do the
                <br>
                specific work of OST event. Absent this authorization,
                the Facilitator
                <br>
                has no standing.
                <br>
                <br>
                3. This is the big one: Everyone else, Sponsor included,
                has 100%
                <br>
                equivalent authorization (100% equivalent "right to do
                work") as of
                <br>
                the
                <br>
                moment of opening of the Bulletin Board and/or the
                opening of the
                <br>
                Marketplace.
                <br>
                <br>
                4. As the event progresses, authorization dynamics are
                in play. These
                <br>
                "informal authorization" dynamics occur continuously
                throughout the
                <br>
                day
                <br>
                in real time, moment by moment. Those who experience net
                increases in
                <br>
                levels of informal authorization as of the end of the
                meeting have
                <br>
                membership in the "emergent leadership" group.
                <br>
                <br>
                I am very interested in what experienced folks think
                about the
                <br>
                validity
                <br>
                of the assertion in (3) above.
                <br>
                <br>
                Ex the Facilitator, does everyone else actually have
                100% equivalent
                <br>
                authorization in an OST meeting? Why or why not?
                <br>
                Is this 100% equivalence of authorization actually a
                key/defining
                <br>
                characteristic of any genuine and authentic Open Space
                event?
                <br>
                <br>
                Thanks for any insight you may be able to provide, and
                <br>
                <br>
                Kind Regards,
                <br>
                Daniel
                <br>
                <br>
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                <br>
                <br>
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                <br>
                <br>
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                <br>
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                <br>
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                <br>
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            <br>
            <br>
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            <br>
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            <br>
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